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06-30-2010, 11:32 AM
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Minor deal for Betts? Makes Kelly tradeable to shed cap?

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06-30-2010, 11:33 AM
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The Expert...you do realize that Briere is one of the top playoff performers since the lockout, right?

Here, I'll run down all of the playoff series for you:
05-06: 19 points in 18 games
06-07: 15 points in 16 games
07-08: 16 points in 17 games
08-09: 4 points in 6 games
09-10: 30 points in 23 games
Total since the lockout: 84 points in 80 games

But sure, its just one playoff run we are talking about...
Yes I do, thanks wikipedia.

You do realize he's still one-dimensional and overpaid, right?

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06-30-2010, 11:36 AM
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You do realize he's still one-dimensional and overpaid, right?
I didn't say anything about that, I'm arguing the fact that you keep saying that Briere has had 1 playoff run...which is just plain retarded.

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06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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Minor deal for Betts? Makes Kelly tradeable to shed cap?
Doubt it, we suck at the FO circle as it is, Betts and Carter are our only really good guys...Richards is decent. We resigned him for 600k or something like that, and he is great on the PK. We really have no reason to trade him.

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06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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Carter and Richards are who I hope the Senators are interested in. Still this deal won't happen unless Spezza is traded.

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06-30-2010, 11:40 AM
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Minor deal for Betts? Makes Kelly tradeable to shed cap?
Flyers love Betts and he costs practically nothing. Why would we trade him?

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06-30-2010, 11:41 AM
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I take it that you've never actually read Senschirp's blog?

It's literally worse than Eklund's.

At Eklund occasionally gets something right.
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A typical response from a Sens fan...we want everything and will give up a 6th and 7th round pick to get it...

Actually...when you really think about it...valuable assets (an oxymoron for a Sens fan) what do you really have...
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I can't believe how quick some Flyers fans are in terms of wanting to run Briere out of town. When he was moved back to center in the playoffs, he was our BEST forward. I think it's safe to say that Laviolette and company have realized that his best position is at center and to not use him there is a waste.

Besides, we all know it's Blair Betts that the Senaturds are interested in......lol
I love some of the attitude Flyer fans have when it comes to simple rumours.

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And posted countless idiotic trade rumours that he never gets called on, including some that are as bad as Eklund's rumours.
Name 3.

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Minor deal for Betts? Makes Kelly tradeable to shed cap?
LOL this is possibly it.

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Yes I do, thanks wikipedia.

You do realize he's still one-dimensional and overpaid, right?
Yea he is. Last time when i was talking with some Flyer fans and i mentioned Briere as a 2 way forward(I meant play-maker and sniper) They all went ballistic and started screaming that he sucks defensively. So if any Flyer fan comes on and says he is good than you know they are just trying to raise his trade value as high as possible.

IN ORDER FOR THE SENATORS TO BE ASKING THE FLYERS FOR A CENTER....Spezza must be dealt.

When Spezza is dealt than this thread can be re-opened.

In before the lock.

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06-30-2010, 11:42 AM
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Carter and Richards are who I hope the Senators are interested in. Still this deal won't happen unless Spezza is traded.
Wow, a person who actually has comprehensive skills and understood the contents of the rumour.

Well done my friend, so far, you are the only one to notice it.

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06-30-2010, 11:43 AM
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Minor deal for Betts? Makes Kelly tradeable to shed cap?
no way, i love betts

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06-30-2010, 11:44 AM
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Trades have to make sense for both sides. It isn't that Carter isn't worth Karlson, it's simply team needs. Ottawa's biggest area of weakness has been a PMD, Karlson is a stud prospect and he fills a huge area of need.

As I originally said, value is there but it just doesn't make sense.
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all, sorry if you took it that way.

I was just using your post as an example that, if the Sens are going to take players off the table (Karlsson, understandably so), then the Flyers are going to do the same (Carter). Fair is fair.

But yea, there just isn't a deal that makes sense here. I call BS on the whole rumor.

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06-30-2010, 11:45 AM
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I didn't say anything about that, I'm arguing the fact that you keep saying that Briere has had 1 playoff run...which is just plain retarded.
Because before the playoffs started this year he was considered deadweight and a useless contract. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp.

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06-30-2010, 11:47 AM
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That doesn't make any sense at all to me. Have you watched him play recently? Did you watch the playoffs?

Briere is a solid player who's very underrated around here. I'd welcome him on the Sens. Problem would be his cap hit, we can't absorb it. Still, he's a quality player.
Yes, I have watched him in the playoffs and he was great. His salary is the reason why I want you guys to get him. He still has 4 years left at 6.5. It would screw you guys in the near future.

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06-30-2010, 11:48 AM
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Because before the playoffs started this year he was considered deadweight and a useless contract. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp.
True.

I might as well get Dustin Byfuglien instead

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If Sens are going to deal Spezza, I'd want to get a good #1 center in return. I'd be okay with Carter or Richards centering Alfredsson and Michalek / Regin.

If it were Briere, I'd want him centering Kovalev and Foligno / Regin / Michalek...

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06-30-2010, 11:50 AM
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how many cups has nabakov/turco/boucher won???
What does that have to do with not wanting Khabby or that package you offered up? I shouldn't have to explain the reasons why it makes no sense for Philly.

Niemi didn't have a Cup before this past season either. To take it a step further, no goalie had won a Cup before...they had actually won a Cup. Shocking but true.

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your looking for a goalie, khabby is a year removed from carrying the hawks to the conference finals, assuming he recovered from his surgery, he would be great playing half the games in philly and starting in the playoffs... he actually played great last year befroe his back gave out...
Dude, the guy makes too much money, was injured all last year, and has a "35 and over" contract, which is insane.

Not to mention the fact that the Flyers TAKE ON salary in your proposal, and have no need for Penner or Cogliano. Your proposal doesn't help Philly in the slightest.

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i dont see philly trading carter anyways, unless they;re that stupid...
Anyone can be traded for proper value. But you have to give up something the Flyers need to consider it (the goalie we need is not Khabibulin).

From Edmonton, at least offer Hemsky, or some kind of package with high end prospects (Eberle, MPS). Don't offer a broken down goalie and pieces we have no use for, or the conversation is going to take the very route ours did.

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Because before the playoffs started this year he was considered deadweight and a useless contract. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp.
By whom? I never wanted Briere dealt. He had 72 points in 79 games in 2007-08 and 25 points in 29 games before he got hurt in 2008-09. He was earning his money. He had a horrible season offensively this year, but many Flyers were down offensively. He was never "dead weight."

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Ekrunning Riot is back.

That's basically the equivalent of your quote
Well done!

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If your dealing with the Flyers, all deals start with Karlsson.

Don't like it, hang up the phone.
This.

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06-30-2010, 12:10 PM
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This.
So what you are saying is it would take Karlsson to get Boucher off your hands.

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If your dealing with the Flyers, all deals start with Karlsson.

Don't like it, hang up the phone.
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Foligno + Lehner for Giroux
I wouldn't be so quick to trade Lehner...

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So what you are saying is it would take Karlsson to get Boucher off your hands.
The Flyers might consider it...if the Senators throw in a 2nd round pick or something.

(The sarcasm emoticon isn't really a necessary addition to my post, right?)

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This is all because Boston traded Thomas AND Savard to Philly and got bent over in the process...

Philly didn't give up Carter or Briere in the deal and Ottawa now wants to know which centerman Philly is going to move with Savard in the picture...

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I think we can agree that there is no deal that would make sense for both sides happening between these 2 teams.

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The Flyers might consider it...if the Senators throw in a 2nd round pick or something.

(The sarcasm emoticon isn't really a necessary addition to my post, right?)
Would it work if we threw in Alfredsson too?

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