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07-01-2010, 08:58 AM
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CSN Report: Flyers Talking to Ellis

For what it is worth CSN Philly just said that the Flyers are going to talk to Ellis about a contract. No link but look it up.

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For what it is worth CSN Philly just said that the Flyers are going to talk to Ellis about a contract. No link but look it up.
Ellis $2.00m / Leighton $1.50m

TOTAL: $3.50m

Get it done Holmgren.

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Ellis $2.00m / Leighton $1.50m

TOTAL: $3.50m

Get it done Holmgren.
Chris,
This would be sweet

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Or we could just pay Turco 3 million and Leighton 800K.

Maybe that would have been good.

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Yay, possibility of 3 backups on our roster. Let's sign Lalime and make it four. I really like even numbers.

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Or we could just pay Turco 3 million and Leighton 800K.

Maybe that would have been good.
Yeah. I agree with you for a change, but I don't think this direction is necessarily worse. I think Turco's a better goalie, but Ellis has youth as well.

I think either Turco or Ellis would've been my top choice on the market even before Mason. Nabokov's skill throws a wild-card into that mix, but like I said, Ellis isn't that bad an option.

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Yay, possibility of 3 backups on our roster. Let's sign Lalime and make it four. I really like even numbers.
Ellis is hardly a back-up.

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Ellis $2.00m / Leighton $1.50m

TOTAL: $3.50m

Get it done Holmgren.
I'd be very down with this. In fact, this is what I've been hoping for since seeing the Leighton signing. Ellis seems like a good dude too.

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Or we could just pay Turco 3 million and Leighton 800K.

Maybe that would have been good.
You are making too much sense.

We must have goalie confrontation in 10 month. We can not have a season with out it.

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Ellis is hardly a back-up.
I think Pekka Rinne would take issue with that. If he's not a backup, he's still a guy who isn't staying with his team because he wasn't going to be the starter. Semantics.

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Yeah, Ellis has 2 good seasons as a backup and 1 awful one as a starter.

Smells like a backup to me.

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I think Pekka Rinne would take issue with that. If he's not a backup, he's still a guy who isn't staying with his team because he wasn't going to be the starter. Semantics.
Pekke Rinne can take as much issue with it as he wants.

Just because he was a "back-up" doesn't mean he can't be a starter in Philadelphia.

Or is Tim Thomas not worthy of this position either?

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Yeah, Ellis has 2 good seasons as a backup and 1 awful one as a starter.

Smells like a backup to me.
You got that backwards:

1 Great Season as a starter on a decent team.
2 Mediocre seasons as a 1B on mediocre teams.

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Guess how many games he started in the season you described as a "great" starter.





37.

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You got that backwards:

1 Great Season as a starter on a decent team.
2 Mediocre seasons as a 1B on mediocre teams.
Year GP GS MIN W L T OTL GAA Sv % SO
07-08 44 37 2229 23 10 0 3 2.34 .924 6
08-09 35 33 1965 11 19 0 4 2.93 .900 3
09-10 31 28 1715 15 13 0 1 2.69 .909 1

Never started more than 37 games in a season. That's less than half of a season. He had half of a season as a good starter, and then two seasons as a mediocre backup/1B.

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Ellis $2.00m / Leighton $1.50m

TOTAL: $3.50m

Get it done Holmgren.
Use that 3.5 to get Turco would be a much better option. Nah go overspend in other areas and come up with a good excuse at the end of the year why they didnt win the cup. Always cutting corners and always coming up short should be the slogan this year. Just wing it again with no clear plan or direction is what this GM is about.

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http://www.csnphilly.com/07/01/10/So...125&feedID=704

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Could Dan Ellis be the second half of the Flyers’ goaltender equation?

Sources said the Flyers will make an offer to Ellis on Thursday afternoon, once the free agent bidding process begins at high noon.

Negotiations between Mike Liut, who represents Ellis, and the Montreal Canadiens broke off late Wednesday night, without Ellis agreeing to a contract.

Liut represents Flyers’ goalie Michael Leighton, who re-signed with the club on Wednesday afternoon, agreeing to a two-year deal worth $3.1 million.

Ellis earned $2 million last season, appearing in 31 games with a 2.69 goals-against average and .909 save percentage.

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Yeah. I agree with you for a change, but I don't think this direction is necessarily worse. I think Turco's a better goalie, but Ellis has youth as well.

I think either Turco or Ellis would've been my top choice on the market even before Mason. Nabokov's skill throws a wild-card into that mix, but like I said, Ellis isn't that bad an option.



Ellis is hardly a back-up.
Youth doesnt mean much if your just not that good or average. Who cares that he is younger? He isnt better.

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Use that 3.5 to get Turco would be a much better option. Nah go overspend in other areas and come up with a good excuse at the end of the year why they didnt win the cup. Always cutting corners and always coming up short should be the slogan this year. Just wing it again with no clear plan or direction is what this GM is about.
What's sad, though, is that they're not cutting corners. They spend to the hilt every year... they just do dumb crap and shoot themselves in the foot as they go along. Consistently.

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Ugh...do not want Ellis. Please go after Turco/Nabokov for something reasonable Homer. I'd likely prefer any of the goalies available to him (Biron/Nitty/Mason/Turco/Nabakov etc)

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Ugh...do not want Ellis. Please go after Turco/Nabokov for something reasonable Homer. I'd likely prefer any of the goalies available to him (Biron/Nitty/Mason/Turco/Nabakov etc)
Neither Turco or Nabokov accepted Holmgren's 2M offer... so they're out!

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Ellis $2.00m / Leighton $1.50m

TOTAL: $3.50m

Get it done Holmgren.
I honestly rather have Biron and I do not particularly like Biron.

I guess Chris is a happy camper?

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Neither Turco or Nabokov accepted Holmgren's 2M offer... so they're out!
So he gives 1.5M a year 2 year deal to Leighton? I can not even imagine the type of coversation Homer had with Leightons agent over the phone after he hanged up the phone with Turcos or Nabbys agents.

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If they're going for Ellis, my hope is they're also going as hard as they can on one of the top D-Men. I personally want Paul Martin.

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Year GP GS MIN W L T OTL GAA Sv % SO
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08-09 35 33 1965 11 19 0 4 2.93 .900 3
09-10 31 28 1715 15 13 0 1 2.69 .909 1

Never started more than 37 games in a season. That's less than half of a season. He had half of a season as a good starter, and then two seasons as a mediocre backup/1B.
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What's sad, though, is that they're not cutting corners. They spend to the hilt every year... they just do dumb crap and shoot themselves in the foot as they go along. Consistently.
Philly fans don't know how good they've got it. There are too many teams and variables now. If each team won the Cup every year, there would be 30-year gaps between Cups. You can try all you want as a GM to win, but the coaches, players, injuries, occasional bounces, and calls on the ice also factor into what happens. To lay blame on Holmgren for this team's not winning the Cup in 2010 is short-sighted. To not credit him for putting a team that came together and never quit in the face of adversity (quite an accomplishment based upon where this team was in December) tells me more about the fanbase than the organization.

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What's sad, though, is that they're not cutting corners. They spend to the hilt every year... they just do dumb crap and shoot themselves in the foot as they go along. Consistently.
goaltender they do was what i meant. Of course they spend and try to win. As you said just not smart about it.

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Philly fans don't know how good they've got it. There are too many teams and variables now. If each team won the Cup every year, there would be 30-year gaps between Cups. You can try all you want as a GM to win, but the coaches, players, injuries, occasional bounces, and calls on the ice also factor into what happens. To lay blame on Holmgren for this team's not winning the Cup in 2010 is short-sighted. To not credit him for putting a team that came together and never quit in the face of adversity (quite an accomplishment based upon where this team was in December) tells me more about the fanbase than the organization.
Leave it to the man from Audubon to bring logic into the equation. People around here whine like it's going out of style sometimes.

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