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07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
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Like last year, I don't see how we can pencil in hodgson in the line-up. I won't be surprised if schroeder is closer to the nhl than hodgson.

Imo theres a fair chance both don't make the team.

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Why not? He struggled coming back from a gruesome injury (tendons severed!) in an already fractured D corps. Suppose he is able to return to form paired with Ballard, for example. It could be good.
He's sucked BOTH times coming back from injury and he was pretty bad before he got injured this past season.

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Why not? He struggled coming back from a gruesome injury (tendons severed!) in an already fractured D corps. Suppose he is able to return to form paired with Ballard, for example. It could be good.
What exactly is Bieksa's "form"?

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You can really see who are Canuck fans and who are hockey fans in this thread. Malholtra is a perfect fit. Dude is MONEY in the dot, kills penalties and can chip in with offense. Basically do everything Kyle Wellwood did accept a lot better. The NTC is a non issue IMO. It's a 3 year deal, it's not like he got 7 or 8. Excellent signing.

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Why not? He struggled coming back from a gruesome injury (tendons severed!) in an already fractured D corps. Suppose he is able to return to form paired with Ballard, for example. It could be good.
No. Bieksa's lack of any hockey intelligence will prevent him from being a productive player for us ever again.

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Does this deal not make Kesler fresher come playoff time? Maybe Kes isn't so dinged up when he doesn't have to shoulder the load for dirty work. Not sure Hodgson would be able to kill penalties, check other teams top players, be out there late in games, and win faceoffs like Malholtra can at this point in time.

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I am so with you.

That is INSANE money. AND he gets a NTC? Are you f'ing kidding me -- NTC for a third liner?!

INSANE.

Moneypuck has left the building.
I'm having flashbacks to the last guy the Canucks signed to a 3 year, $7.5mil deal. You boldly stated Mikael Samuelsson would be lucky to score 10 goals and I laughed in your face.

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin', keep trollin' trollin trollin'.

The fact you don't like this signing leads me to believe it was a brilliant move.

Manny Malhotra-

2.91 goals for/60MIN, 1.38 goals against/60MIN

Dominant two-way numbers from the 3rd line. Never mind the size, speed, faceoff prowess and penalty killing ability.

The Canucks got the best fit out there for their 3rd line and paid a premium to do it. This is a move a Stanley cup contender absolutely has to make.

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I'm having flashbacks to the last guy the Canucks signed to a 3 year, $7.5mil deal. You boldly stated Mikael Samuelsson would be lucky to score 10 goals and I laughed in your face.

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin', keep trollin' trollin trollin'.

The fact you don't like this signing leads me to believe it was a brilliant move.

Manny Malhotra-

2.91 goals for/60MIN, 1.38 goals against/60MIN

Dominant two-way numbers from the 3rd line. Never mind the size, speed, faceoff prowess and penalty killing ability.

The Canucks got the best fit out there for their 3rd line and paid a premium to do it. This is a move a Stanley cup contender absolutely has to make.
where'd you get those stats?

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I love the Nucks, Gillis and Malhotra, but guys, 2.5 mill for 3 yr's, and a NTC, is way overpaying.

I think he makes us a better team, esp come playoff time. I just don't like the numbers.

We had to sell him on the organization, and city. Make him want to be here. Possibly could have got him for under a mill if you'd taken him for a tour of Surrey.

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I love the Nucks, Gillis and Malhotra, but guys, 2.5 mill for 3 yr's, and a NTC, is way overpaying.

I think he makes us a better team, esp come playoff time. I just don't like the numbers.

We had to sell him on the organization, and city. Make him want to be here. Possibly could have got him for under a mill if you'd taken him for a tour of Surrey.
I thought this was a serious post until I read the bolded part.

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Does this deal not make Kesler fresher come playoff time? Maybe Kes isn't so dinged up when he doesn't have to shoulder the load for dirty work. Not sure Hodgson would be able to kill penalties, check other teams top players, be out there late in games, and win faceoffs like Malholtra can at this point in time.
if Kesler can't keep up for the season + playoffs then dump him now.


Too much money, why does a bottom 6 player have an NTC?

Not a great deal. Good player, but not a good signing.

Then again... 60% PK says we shoulve have given him 4.

Boogard for 1.65 says we should up everyone's pay by about 1.1 million.

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Gabe Desjardins on the Malhotra signing:

Deal #10: Manny Malhotra to the Canucks for 3 years, $2.5M per. Malhotra is a seriously underrated player - would much rather have him at $2.5M than Colby Armstrong at $3M.

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I love the Nucks, Gillis and Malhotra, but guys, 2.5 mill for 3 yr's, and a NTC, is way overpaying.

I think he makes us a better team, esp come playoff time. I just don't like the numbers.

We had to sell him on the organization, and city. Make him want to be here. Possibly could have got him for under a mill if you'd taken him for a tour of Surrey.
Sweet, more and more CDC hillbillies are migrating here. Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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You say that like he's the only bottom 6 guy in the NHL with a NTC.

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I think too many people don't realize we are serious contenders. We have to have guys like Maholtra in the roster. I like the signing and don't worry he won't stop Hodgson from making the team if he is ready

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Of course lesser contract numbers are more appealing, but really, what other options are there out there that could be had for cheaper than Malhotra at $2.5m?

This honestly reminds me of the Samuelsson deal and I'm fine with that. I don't expect 20-30 goals 50-points, etc, that's not Malhotra's game. He is a defensive specialist and a great faceoff man. $2.5m is a little steep, but the Canucks have the space to do that and then some.

There were plenty of naysayers about Samuelsson's deal last fall too, but really, these are identical types of moves. Both fill a niche on the team--Samuelsson was to provide some secondary scoring along with a winning resume and playoff experience. Malhotra is to give us a defensive specialist(hopefully to help take some of the load off Kesler's plate) who can win key faceoffs and be a good, physical component of the bottom six.

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the boards are funny. first the ballard trade- everyone was iffy about it saying nucks OVERPAID! giving up 25th for this year+grabner+bernier for ballard top 4 and oskorvich. and half like it. same with malhotra everyone was praying for a third line center ever since! now they got one. sure he got a bit overpaid for a bottom 6. THE fact of the matter is GILLIS wants to win now, he's putting alll eggs in one basket.

I wouldn't be surprised if malhotra is like the sammy signing last yr. HE could surprise in 10/11season.

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If San Jose was offering 2.2 to keep him, then clearly we needed to pay more to have him move countries/organizations, especially considering it's the sharks, and while they haven't had great playoff success, they are consistently considered contenders, if only year in and year out for the president's trophy.

Good signing... and if we have the money, which right now we do, why are people concerned that we're using it to fix blatant holes in our bottom 6? If Colby Armstrong is worth 3x3, how is Malhotra not worth 1.5 mill less?

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I think too many people don't realize we are serious contenders. We have to have guys like Maholtra in the roster. I like the signing and don't worry he won't stop Hodgson from making the team if he is ready
If hodgson plays on the wing instead of center then Malholtra wouldn't be a bad guy to play with. Not a lot of offense but he can cover for him in the defensive end.

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Gabe Desjardins on the Malhotra signing:

Deal #10: Manny Malhotra to the Canucks for 3 years, $2.5M per. Malhotra is a seriously underrated player - would much rather have him at $2.5M than Colby Armstrong at $3M.
I'd be curious to see your breakdown of Malhotra's numbers over the last few years, specifically on the PK. How does he compare to his teammates?

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Does this deal not make Kesler fresher come playoff time? Maybe Kes isn't so dinged up when he doesn't have to shoulder the load for dirty work. Not sure Hodgson would be able to kill penalties, check other teams top players, be out there late in games, and win faceoffs like Malholtra can at this point in time.
this is exactly what i came here to say. kesler had to be a second line center and a shutdown center because the other option was playing wellwood against top competition. this will make a huge difference in terms of not running kesler ragged. it may not result in more kesler points-- because honestly i don't see how he could score any more-- but he will have more in the tank when it counts.

i'm not jumping up and down, but this deal was a pleasant surprise. i half-hoping we would have a chance to get malhotra if his wife wanted to move back home, and here he is. the dollars are a little more than expected, but if the alternative was giving ladd more dollars on an offer sheet, or cheaping out and paying 3/4 the price and getting 1/2 of the results, then the extra $.5 million is just the cost of doing business to get exactly the player you wanted.

best case scenario, one of schroeder or shiro is good enough to play on the second line by the playoffs. then we can bump raymond down to the third for a very good two-way raymond/hodgson/malhotra line, or either move sammy up to play with the twins and move burrows down to the third, move sammy to the third, move malhotra down to anchor a fourth line with a third line of raymond/hodgson/shiro... my point is, we haven't had this kind of roster flexibility and the ability to adapt our lineup to the team we're facing in a long time. but this all assumes that the kids don't flop.

and hey, if steve nash isn't in the playoffs next spring, which it looks like he won't be, we now have a celebrity fan who will come to all of our playoff games.

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"My main focus on coming to Vancouver is there is an opportunity to win now," Malhotra said on a conference call. "That's what I want. I've been in situations where I've been in a rebuilding organization and gone through those kind of years where it's very frustrating going to the rink every day and not knowing what to expect. Ask any player in the league: you want a realistic opportunity to win a Stanley Cup."

According to Malhotra, there were "about 7, 8, 9 teams" in the running for his services.

"They were all in different stages as an organization," Malhotra explained. "Some were rebuilding. Some were on the cusp of winning and some were winners but Vancouver was the best balance of all aspects. It's a great city, a good team and an unbelievable hockey atmosphere obviously."
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