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07-01-2010, 03:34 PM
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Flyers over the salary cap

Am I missing something?

1 Chris Pronger 4,921,429
2 Kimmo Timonen 6,333,333
3 Matt Carle 3,437,500
4 Braydon Coburn 3,200,000
5 Andrej Meszaros 4,000,000
6 Sean O'Donnell 1,000,000
7 Oskars Bartulis 600,000

Subtotal 23,492,262

1 Michael Leighton 1,550,000
2 Brian Boucher 925,000

Subtotal 2,475,000

1 Scott Hartnell 4,200,000
2 Simon Gagne 5,250,000
3 James Van Riemsdyk 1,654,167
4 Jody Shelley 1,100,000
5 Danny Briere 6,500,000
6 Jeff Carter 5,000,000
7 Mike Richards 5,750,000
8 Blair Betts 700,000
9 Ville Leino 800,000
10 Claude Giroux 821,667
11 Ian Laperierre 1,166,667
12 Andreas Nodl 850,000

Subtotal 33,792,501

TOTAL 59,759,763


I excluded Cote, Powe, and Carcillo. How is this supposed to work????

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07-01-2010, 03:36 PM
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http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24

I didn't check your math or capgeek's to be honest.

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07-01-2010, 03:47 PM
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JVR's cap hit is half bonuses, so you can go over the cap.

I also suspect we are not done and I have a bad feeling about Lappy.

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1) bonus cushion (jvr)
2) i wouldn't include nodl yet since we don't know who the 13th will be
3) we can be 10% over iirc in the off-season

But yes, we're tight to the cap with guys we still need to sign. Someone has to be moved in my opinion, just to fit it all under the cap with the goaltending situation as-is, which infuriates me.

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JVR's cap hit is half bonuses, so you can go over the cap.

I also suspect we are not done and I have a bad feeling about Lappy.
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1) bonus cushion (jvr)
2) i wouldn't include nodl yet since we don't know who the 13th will be
3) we can be 10% over iirc in the off-season

But yes, we're tight to the cap with guys we still need to sign. Someone has to be moved in my opinion, just to fit it all under the cap with the goaltending situation as-is, which infuriates me.
Incorrect, there's no bonus cushion in 2010-2011.

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07-01-2010, 04:26 PM
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I have a feeling we are trading someone soon.

We are against the cap.

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Why Lappy, Irish?

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Incorrect, there's no bonus cushion in 2010-2011.
Are you sure? The CBA was extended another year, so as I understand it the bonus cushion is in effect this upcoming year.

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im expecting hartnell to be moved for a goalie and cap relief...


..but if holmgren thinks shelley is going to plug the gap left by hartnell he can **** himself

edit: NMC or NTC..either way, never ****ing mind.


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Incorrect, there's no bonus cushion in 2010-2011.
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Are you sure? The CBA was extended another year, so as I understand it the bonus cushion is in effect this upcoming year.
Correct

The CBA, having been extended until the 2011-2012 season (its final season), the 2010-2011 season no longer has the possibility of being the final year of the CBA and therefore the bonus cushion is in effect.

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Given the fact that Homer is running the show, I'm terrified of who we're going to move. Our forwards were fine, but he's complicated the whole thing by signing Shelley and O'Donnell and putting us up against the cap. Those two moves were totally unnecessary.

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Why Lappy, Irish?
For his cap hit, he is kind of redundant. Granted he does a lot of things well, I'd be really worried about his health after the season he has had. 2 slapshots to an unprotected face? Brain trauma?

It's a total guess, but I have my concerns.

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Teams can be 7% over the cap in the off-season but need to be cap compliant for day 1 of the season.

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Is there any reason (some rule I'm not aware of) that the Flyers couldn't renegotiate somebody's deal to lower their AAV? I was thinking Timonen if he was interested...

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Is there any reason (some rule I'm not aware of) that the Flyers couldn't renegotiate somebody's deal to lower their AAV? I was thinking Timonen if he was interested...
NHL contracts are guaranteed. There is no renegotiating. Ever.

There are buyouts, waivers, and trading though.

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There's no way we get under. Homer is obviously too stupid.
We're probably going to be forced to not play this season.

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NHL contracts are guaranteed. There is no renegotiating. Ever.

There are buyouts, waivers, and trading though.
Wow, I didn't know that. I knew they were guaranteed in the sense that you can't just cut a guy NFL-style, but I didn't realize the CBA didn't allow a team & player to make a mutual decision to renegotiate a deal. So all they could do is extend a guy, and his cap # changes to the AAV of the extension once the original deal's up?

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There's no way we get under. Homer is obviously too stupid.
We're probably going to be forced to not play this season.
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Is there any reason (some rule I'm not aware of) that the Flyers couldn't renegotiate somebody's deal to lower their AAV? I was thinking Timonen if he was interested...
That's the official rule from the NHL:

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RENEGOTIATION OF CONTRACTS

Will Clubs be able to renegotiate contracts with players?

No. Player contracts will not be renegotiated (upward or downward) during their term. Extensions may be negotiated but only in the final year of the contract and only if such extension is for an amount that can be accommodated in a Club's upper limit for the current year or as computed for future years.

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However, what makes the cap situation not as good for the Flyers is that they have not amassed prospects and picks like Chicago has done despite Chicago disrupting their Stanley Cup roster. Oh and yes Chicago has that Cup....we don't ....36 years and counting. Chicago at least is setting themselves up going forward still....we're scrambling before that 2-3 window slams shut.

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The Flyers have the lowest amount of available cap space in the league, according to capgeek.com. But Chicago is in much worse shape; the Blackhawks have about $3.6 of cap space but only have 14 players under contract. The Flyers have signed 21 players.
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