Didn't Lombardi already say that he wasn't giving up either Quick or Bernier? Yeah, it'd be great if the Flyers got Bernier, but it's not happening. It's clear from Flyers management that they're hoping one of Bobrovsky or Eriksson be the goaltender of the future.
If ANY Gagne deal with Los Angeles is made, it's probably going to be something centered around prospects. I'm thinking Hickey and Loktionov or Hickey and Voynov
LOL. We both know GMs lie all the time remember when Sutter said he wouldn't trade Phaneuf? Or Clarke?
Here's what I don't get about this. We're already short on wings and have too many centers. Let's ship out a wing?
You're really asking this question after what transpired yesterday?! I'm not shocked at anything anymore. We'll prob get a center back in a deal for Gagne, you know, because you can never be too deep at center.
Boy has Shooter really botched what hsould have been a ismple off season. You know deep down that either Williams or Handzeus will be part of the return if it is the kings lol. Poor Claude Giroux.
One source close to both Gagne and the Flyers confirmed that Gagne has in fact agreed to waive it.
However, no trade is imminent this weekend.
The Flyers have discussed a possible deal involving Gagne with another team - believed to be the Los Angeles Kings - and both sides have agreed to take the July 4th weekend to sleep on it and think about it.
The rationalization behind the deal appears to be so the Flyers can clear enough salary cap space to sign restricted free agents Darroll Powe and Dan Carcillo and to sign another, higher-priced goalie.
I spoke with someone who knows former Dallas Stars goalie Marty Turco really well and was I was told "Turco really wants to go to Philly."
The Flyers are looking for a veteran goalie for just 1-2 years before possibly turning the reins over to one of their young prospects.
Rumors are flying about several names from Los Angeles who could be coming back to the Flyers, but it's likely to be a package of a player and draft picks.
I tried contacting Gagne by phone both last night and today, but was unable to reach him.
The name of James van Riemsdyk has also been mentioned in these rumors, but I have not been able to get anyone to confirm for me that he is part of any trade discussion.
Boy has Shooter really botched what hsould have been a ismple off season. You know deep down that either Williams or Handzeus will be part of the return if it is the kings lol. Poor Claude Giroux.
To paraphrase Beef Invictus from another thread, him screwing up this simple of an off-season in such an unimaginably boneheaded and unlikely way, is like trying to eat a cheese steak, and somehow getting it stuck in your urethra. And now trading Gagne is like shoving a hoagie up your ass to try and force it out.
I think Beef Invictus should have Tim Panaccio's job. At least then when he editorializes even though it isn't that informative, it would be amusing as hell.
To paraphrase Beef Invictus from another thread, him screwing up this simple of an off-season in such an unimaginably boneheaded and unlikely way, is like trying to eat a cheese steak, and somehow getting it stuck in your urethra. And now trading Gagne is like shoving a hoagie up your ass to try and force it out.
I think Beef Invictus should have Tim Panaccio's job. At least then when he editorializes even though it isn't that informative, it would be amusing as hell.
I know it is not as simple as this or maybe it is. Lettign Carcillo and Powe walk to keep Gagne is a no brainer no? Those 2 will take up about 1.8mm. So you trade Gagne and his 5 and say get another player making 1.5mm. Your only saving 1.7mm. Then sign Turco. Wow how this guy still has a job is beyond me. Dont sign Leighton and you have $ for Turco. Dont acquire a 4mm dman as that was not a pressing need. I am a littlel drunk and aggrevated even mroe now.
That's why they signed Shelley. It's all part of Homer's brilliant masterplan!
Yeah Shelley is big so just put him in front of the next and it's pretty much automatic goals. Isn't that what we learned from Byfuglien in the playoffs?
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
Hey, remember when Stajan and Wellwood were considered to be on par with Carter and Richards, and when Cogliano, Gagner, and Smid were can't miss prospects? Because I do.
Carter and Gagne >> anything any team in the league can offer up in the way of prospects
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
Is there a link? If so, can you include it in the text?
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
All of those 3 and I'm in. At the very least Hall and one of the other 2.
All of those 3 and I'm in. At the very least Hall and one of the other 2.
That makes no sense for the Oilers. They are built for the future and not going to be contenders anytime too soon. Why would they want to trade two of their best prospects for a 30 year old winger?
Update: Sources such as Doug MacLean via Twitter have indicated that Simon Gagne has been asked to waive his NMC, but the reason why has yet to be disclosed. It has been reported that Gagne has played his last game as a Flyer, but the return via trade is only speculation at this time.
There's a rumor making the rounds that Simon Gagne has been traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs for JS Giguere. It's a perfectly feasible deal, but as of now, Toronto and Philadelphia are the two teams with the highest cap numbers. The Flyers need to move someone, and the Oilers need a #1 center.
Enter Jeff Carter. It has also been mentioned on Twitter that Carter could be on the move to free up cap space, and the Oilers would be a tremendously good fit.
So here's the question: Carter might be available, but the Flyers will demand in return youngsters with a low/no immediate cap hit this upcoming season. The Oilers have an abundance of high-quality young players, but who would you been willing to part with to bring Carter into the Oilers fold?
Keep in mind that there is no way this deal could occur with the Oilers sending a bunch of salary back. The Oilers could offer future draft picks, but might need to offer one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Jeff Petry, Magnus Paajarvi, or Linus Omark.
That makes no sense for the Oilers. They are built for the future and not going to be contenders anytime too soon. Why would they want to trade two of their best prospects for a 30 year old winger?
Gagne waiving his NTC is a smoke screen.
Homer doing Lombardi a solid by getting all of this chater going in order to force Kovy's hand.
Kovy will end up in LA and the Kings will take Carcillo for a 2nd or 3rd.
You know, I was thinking that, it's not crazy. Especially after I read "they were told to think about it over the weekend". What the hell's that mean? You ask a guy to waive his NTC, you damn better trade him now. What the **** is there to think about? That didn't make sense to me, but it does make sense if it's making Kovalchuck think about not playing in LA because they're trading for Gagne.
You know, I was thinking that, it's not crazy. Especially after I read "they were told to think about it over the weekend". What the hell's that mean? You ask a guy to waive his NTC, you damn better trade him now. What the **** is there to think about? That didn't make sense to me, but it does make sense if it's making Kovalchuck think about not playing in LA because they're trading for Gagne.
You really think the organization would use Gagne like that to help out the Kings?
