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Sheldon Souray clears waivers

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07-02-2010, 12:57 PM
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this is a good way to start the day

SHELDON SOURAY BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $2,400,000
2011-2012: $2,400,000
2012-2013: $1,500,000
2013-2014: $1,500,000

oilers have the cap room

Oilers would be better to pick up a contract(then maybe buy that contract out). As an Islanders fan I am sure they would trade Witt for Souray(basically Islanders save 3M)

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ill take him back in montreal for 2.5 mil max

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A lot of Oiler fans were so defensive when people claimed that Souray had little to no value. Sort of comical how this is playing out.
And those ones are now expressing surprise over it. For the open minded fan, however, it's now clear that he didn't have any - in which case, him being waived is precisely what was wanted. Losing 5.4m in salary (not to mention the other problems that came with him) is a great trade in itself.

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07-02-2010, 01:00 PM
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Edmonton is definitely planning on signing someone expensive. No way they clear up this much cap space without filling it with someone...

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And a lot of Edmonton fans were asking for a 1st round pick.
lol. Rights to Daigle. (Didn't have to be an upcoming 1st round pick.

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So two tweets (from Lebrun and Rishaug, I believe) suggest the Oilers aren't buying out Souray, nor are they interested in putting him on reentry. Are they really planning on sticking him in the AHL for the rest of his contract, or are they hoping he refuses to report so they can suspend him and be off the hook for his contract (or however that works)?

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Edmonton is definitely planning on signing someone expensive. No way they clear up this much cap space without filling it with someone...
Semin, 10 years, 70m.

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So two tweets (from Lebrun and Rishaug, I believe) suggest the Oilers aren't buying out Souray, nor are they interested in putting him on reentry. Are they really planning on sticking him in the AHL for the rest of his contract, or are they hoping he refuses to report so they can suspend him and be off the hook for his contract (or however that works)?
I'm pretty sure tambo knows a few teams wwould claim him on waivers since he won't cost anything but cash rather than any sort of assets.

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We can work something out here in Chicago

We put Campbell on waivers (Oilers pick him up) ,,, Hawks pick up Souray

Both of there NTC are circumvented
Much as I detest Campbell's contract, he is significantly better than Souray, who is variation of Mike Green, just a slight decrease in offense and a slight increase in defense. Not worth the gamble when you factor in his injury frequency. Nonetheless, I am certainly amazed to see him potentially in the minors, which is a nigh forgone conclusion because I doubt any team will absorb that contract.

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I like this move as an oilers fan.....but man if the reputation as a place where stars don't want to go...whats it say to other players and the stereotype when you waive an albertan boy who turned down other offers for edmonton, to turn around and waive his ass?

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Much as I detest Campbell's contract, he is significantly better than Souray, who is variation of Mike Green, just a slight decrease in offense and a slight increase in defense. Not worth the gamble when you factor in his injury frequency. Nonetheless, I am certainly amazed to see him potentially in the minors, which is a nigh forgone conclusion because I doubt any team will absorb that contract.
Maybe, but the difference between Souray's offense and Green's isn't that much, but the disparity between their defensive skills is a chasm.

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Holy smokes, didn't see that coming. Wonder if anyone takes him at $5m, or if everyone wants to wait to get him on re-entry...
It's kinda funny, at $5.4 million no fans of any team wants him but at $2.7 he's a hot commodity.

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I'm pretty sure tambo knows a few teams wwould claim him on waivers since he won't cost anything but cash rather than any sort of assets.
Yeah, it's possible, considering there's slim pickings left on the UFA market for a defenseman like Souray (when he's healthy)..I'm going on the assumption that he doesn't get picked up though, which is entirely possible too.

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Yeah that is not happening ,,, Just like Oiler fans believing that Khabibulin's contract can be voided because of his DUI

Pipedream my friends ,,, Pipedream
I beg to differ. I think they can for both, it's just a question of whether they would, for the reasons you have mentionned (reputation of the team with the rest of the players in the league). If Khabibulin were to be convicted and couldn't cross borders, his breach would be a no brainer IMO. The big problem for the Oilers in his case is that they'd still have his caphit because he was signed after 35, so I highly doubt they'd do that in his case now.

Souray would be a harder nut to demonstrate breach of contract, but not impossible. It's not been tried before, but it was pretty clear the Oilers were darn PO'd with his comments. They took their time in responding, and when they did the comments were very carefully chosen (I think they said his comments were "demonstrably untrue" or some such).

Anyway, I'm watching this with great interest because I think a termination MAY be in mind. I think the Oilers are obviously hoping it doesn't come to that however and he just gets picked up on the way down.

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If you threaten to send him to the minors don't you risk having to pay half his salary on reentry.. which they don't want to do?

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I like this move as an oilers fan.....but man if the reputation as a place where stars don't want to go...whats it say to other players and the stereotype when you waive an albertan boy who turned down other offers for edmonton, to turn around and waive his ass?
Alternatively, how does the team react when said Albertan boy baselessly slags the team in the media and then publicly demands a trade? Two-way street.

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If you threaten to send him to the minors don't you risk having to pay half his salary on reentry.. which they don't want to do?
If you're putting him in the minors, why would you put him on re-entry waivers?

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So two tweets (from Lebrun and Rishaug, I believe) suggest the Oilers aren't buying out Souray, nor are they interested in putting him on reentry. Are they really planning on sticking him in the AHL for the rest of his contract, or are they hoping he refuses to report so they can suspend him and be off the hook for his contract (or however that works)?
lol. Sounds like something that might happen in Edmonton. That cannot be good for the optics of your team for free agents.

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I really like this move. I wish Heatley had only had a NTC so we could have waived his arse as well. I guess that would have meant no Milan Michalek though....so that's doesn't work. But it would have been so fun to see Heatley end up on the Florida Panthers. Enjoy loser!

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Alternatively, how does the team react when said Albertan boy baselessly slags the team in the media and then publicly demands a trade? Two-way street.
Totally, either way it is not looking pretty for their reputation, which is generally upsetting.

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I like this move as an oilers fan.....but man if the reputation as a place where stars don't want to go...whats it say to other players and the stereotype when you waive an albertan boy who turned down other offers for edmonton, to turn around and waive his ass?

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Maybe, but the difference between Souray's offense and Green's isn't that much, but the disparity between their defensive skills is a chasm.
The Oilers are not a desirable team to go to, but come on. A guy throws his coach, training staff, and GM under the bus, and he shouldn't be waived?

Edmonton will never be a hot destination, but the way Edmonton becomes a reasonable place to sign is by winning, not by pampering a guy who publicly called out everyone and demanded a trade.

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If you threaten to send him to the minors don't you risk having to pay half his salary on reentry.. which they don't want to do?
Only when/if you recall him from the minors and someone claims him.

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If you're putting him in the minors, why would you put him on re-entry waivers?
Because you dont actually want to pay a guy 5 million to play in the ahl?

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Yes.

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Totally, either way it is not looking pretty for their reputation, which is generally upsetting.
It certainly doesn't help matters in that area, no. But the situation being what it is, I also can't blame them for the action they've taken.

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