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07-02-2010, 12:58 PM
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Well in the Oil Change documentary
It was not a documentary.

It was a paid commercial.

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Andy Strickland:
Blues are not interested in Edmonton D-man Shldon Souray

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07-02-2010, 01:00 PM
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Andy Strickland:
Blues are not interested in Edmonton D-man Shldon Souray
Pretty much what I figured. Tamby would've jumped all over that Brewer trade (expiring contract).

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Crazy, is he gets placed on reentry waivers for a team to take him for 1/2 price he'd go fast.

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1 year of Brewer honestly wouldn't be that bad. The above guys would likely want more than 1 year term, though I wouldn't mind Willie Mitchell.
I think Mitchell on a 2 year deal would be better than Brewer on a 1 year deal.

It's irrelevant though. I'm fine with the Oilers trading for an expiring contract.

My original point was just that there is some logic behind what Tambellini is doing and he's not simply trying to embarrass Souray because he's holding a grudge.

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07-02-2010, 01:03 PM
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This can't be just for cap space. I know that enforcers are cashing in big time, but MacIntyre's contract demands can't be that high, right?

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Nightmare? What nightmare. He got pissed off and came out and truthfully stated he was pissed off by management and if what he claimed was true he had every right to be pissed.

I don't think there is a big coincidence that Tambellini has been firing trainers, equipment guys, scouts and moving the head coach out.
Are you serious? How do you know that Souray is right about the whole situation? The point is that there is no way that those fences can be mended, do you honestly want an unhappy Souray's attitude to rub off on the youngsters? What in the world does firing a bunch of staff members have to do with this? Usually when teams finish in last place, changes happen so i don't get why you're holding this against Tambellini, would you have been happy with no changes at all?

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Crazy, is he gets placed on reentry waivers for a team to take him for 1/2 price he'd go fast.
The club already said that isn't an option.

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Andy Strickland:
Blues are not interested in Edmonton D-man Shldon Souray
I wouldn't be either Andy, but maybe they'd be interested in Sheldon Souray?

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Crazy, is he gets placed on reentry waivers for a team to take him for 1/2 price he'd go fast.
They should consider the same move for Horcoff for that very reason.

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send him to the minors
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*If* he's told he has to report to camp for OKC (Which would make my day), is OKC on hook for the whole cap hit?
The AHL doesn't have a salary cap. They can have as many AHL/2 way contracts down there as they want. The only time they pay for a 1 way contract is if they ask the nhl team to sign a guy they really want. For example, I heard the Moose get the canucks to sign guys like Nolan Baumgartner or Jason Krog to 1 way deals so they can ice a better team and they actually pay the salaries. I think the Hershey bears do something similar as well with guys like Aucoin and Giroux.

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It was not a documentary.

It was a paid commercial.
Thanks for that. If you want to actually contribute something towards the discussion in the thread. That would be good.

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1 year of Brewer honestly wouldn't be that bad. The above guys would likely want more than 1 year term, though I wouldn't mind Willie Mitchell.
We are thinking too old and too expensive though.

Whitney-Gilbert
Smid-Foster
Meyer-Vandermeer
Strudwick

I think Freddy Meyer on a cheap deal is perfect. Then we can develop Peckham and Chorney for another year in the AHL.
Souray has to go though, and Tambo will have to get rid of him somehow. I would of kept him had we not kept Jim Vandermeer, but we don't have the time for his bull. Maybe the Islanders would take him?

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It was not a documentary.

It was a paid commercial.
Fantastic post.

We should refer to it as such from now on. That, or propaganda.
It was produced in-house, and should not in any way be taken as fact.

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They should consider the same move for Horcoff for that very reason.
One more godawful year, and they certainly should.

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They should consider the same move for Horcoff for that very reason.
I don't think Horcoff would get a sniff at 2.75 x 5.

Too long of a term for a vanilla player that can't stay healthy enough to win draws.

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Crazy, is he gets placed on reentry waivers for a team to take him for 1/2 price he'd go fast.
Yeah that won't happen. Anyways, I think the NYI take him because they need help getting to the cap floor, and have had a good experience with an Oilers reclamation project recently in Schremp.

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07-02-2010, 01:13 PM
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They're not going to send him down to the minors. They don't want to be on the hook for any of his salary at all. They think someone will just take him, they'll get a lesser trade or they'll sit him.

And look, if Ethan Moreau can get picked up at his salary, I don't see how Shelly's 4.5cap hit is the end of the world.

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According to Spector...

"I suspect the Oilers, after shopping Souray without success, have found a team to take him on re-entry waivers. Each get $2.7 cap hit...?"
And maybe there's an agreed to trade in the background if a particular team is successful at picking him up

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I'm stunned at this. I figured we'd get something for him.

They must really have a lot of confidence with the guys they are planning to bring in.

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07-02-2010, 01:15 PM
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So let me get this straight (assuming buyouts are not a possibility)...

1. If Sheldon Souray is picked up on waivers- Edmonton is clear of his cap hit.

2. If Sheldon Souray clears waivers and doesn't want to report to the AHL- Edmonton is clear of his cap hit.

3A. If Sheldon Souray clears waivers and reports to the AHL- Edmonton is stuck with his cap hit. Or does he come off the books?

3B. Sheldon is in the AHL, we trade him for another contract?

Could someone explain this to me?

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I'm hoping this doesn't mean re-entry waivers. I'd rather take on a somewhat bad contract around $4M than take on $2.7M of nothing.

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We are thinking too old and too expensive though.

Whitney-Gilbert
Smid-Foster
Meyer-Vandermeer
Strudwick

I think Freddy Meyer on a cheap deal is perfect. Then we can develop Peckham and Chorney for another year in the AHL.
Souray has to go though, and Tambo will have to get rid of him somehow. I would of kept him had we not kept Jim Vandermeer, but we don't have the time for his bull. Maybe the Islanders would take him?
I believe that Peckham would have to clear waivers to go down to OKC...so either he will be with the Oilers this year or probably no longer in the system because he wont make it through imo

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So let me get this straight (assuming buyouts are not a possibility)...

1. If Sheldon Souray is picked up on waivers- Edmonton is clear of his cap hit. YES

2. If Sheldon Souray clears waivers and doesn't want to report to the AHL- Edmonton is clear of his cap hit. YES AND THEY DON'T PAY HIM EITHER

3A. If Sheldon Souray clears waivers and reports to the AHL- Edmonton is stuck with his cap hit. Or does he come off the books? THEY STILL PAY HIS SALARY BUT LOSE HIS NHL CAPHIT

3B. Sheldon is in the AHL, we trade him for another contract? SOMEBODY ELSE'S CONTRACT AND CAPHIT

Could someone explain this to me?
See my annotations.

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