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07-02-2010, 01:18 PM
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They should consider the same move for Horcoff for that very reason.
Horcoff has a NMC for the next three seasons so its not an option

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SHELDON SOURAY BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $2,400,000
2011-2012: $2,400,000
2012-2013: $1,500,000
2013-2014: $1,500,000


doesnt look the the buy out option is the way to go.....i hope some one claims him. i dont want to eat any salary on re entry or buy out.

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It was not a documentary.

It was a paid commercial.
I have re watchd in a few times and I have to agree--it would be what the PR firms would call a Mia Culpa in saying we ****ed up and now lets move on.

so i agree--we need to look at oil change as just the team putting it's hand up and saying we screwed up.

Flip side is the fact on top of the mouth work from the oil change--the oilers have fallowed through with their promise of change

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Tambos 1st really dumb move in this process and a sign that he is in the same vein as Lowe for holding a grudge and letting that grudge affect hockey making decisions. Very poor use of assets if we lose him for nothing and still have to add to the back end. The only way the rational could perhaps be okay is if we go after a big $ free agent and I'm totally against that.
Have to dissagree with this post. It did not cost us any assets to sign Mr. Souray. If he is set free it costs us nothing as well.
This has nothing to do with holding a grudge IMO. It shows Sheldon that by venting publicly about your current employer only devalues what your own percieved value is.
If I was on Facebook and saw one of my employees speaking about me in a way that devalued my business I can guarantee you that his removal would be swift and justifiable. It would also teach all of my current employees that if you have issues it is always best to sit down face to face.

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07-02-2010, 01:20 PM
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Well in the Oil Change documentary Lowe said if he had it to do over he would have made Pronger sit out.

I wonder if they plan to do that with Souray if he is not claimed? Maybe even try to force him to go play in OKC and if/when he refuses they could suspend him, no? If it stayed that way then he is off the cap and you do not have to pay him.
It's going to be really hard to foresee how this plays out. Nobody knows what the oilers are planning not even Souray. This has some potential to blow up especially if Souray doesn't handle not being claimed well and raises some hell in OKC (he'll report. He's not throwing that money away). We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.

I think he gets claimed by the Islanders(they aren't at the floor) but it's hard to be sure.

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See my annotations.
With a billiondollar owner, why are we even talking about buying him out? I mean worst case scenario we lose his cap but pay his salary?

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I believe that Peckham would have to clear waivers to go down to OKC...so either he will be with the Oilers this year or probably no longer in the system because he wont make it through imo
Doesn't he have to play 60 games and he has only played 31?

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So if he clears waivers, we don't need to assign him to OKC do we? I mean do we still have an ECHL affiliate? We could bury him there, not affecting our better prospects either way.

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This has some potential to blow up especially if Souray doesn't handle not being claimed well and raises some hell in OKC (he'll report. He's not throwing that money away).
he would not report

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I'm hoping this doesn't mean re-entry waivers. I'd rather take on a somewhat bad contract around $4M than take on $2.7M of nothing.
I'm convinced the Oilers are prepared to terminate his contract if he clears. They've apparently said no to deals that would require they take salary back and they've stated that they have no plan to bring him back up on on recall. Might not happen right away, but I don't think they would have waived him with word that they won't eat half his salary unless they had something in mind. It makes no sense to trade him after it demonstrating through waivers that he has no positive value. I think they want to give him his freedom but do so either as a waiver pickup at full cost or alternatively as a UFA.

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SHELDON SOURAY BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $2,400,000
2011-2012: $2,400,000
2012-2013: $1,500,000
2013-2014: $1,500,000


doesnt look the the buy out option is the way to go.....i hope some one claims him. i dont want to eat any salary on re entry or buy out.
Somebody quoted a twitter account before (LeBrun?) saying that the Oilers have no intention of buying Souray out.

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With a billiondollar owner, why are we even talking about buying him out? I mean worst case scenario we lose his cap but pay his salary?
Nobody's buying anybody out. That would have had to happen last month. Terminate, that's what I think we're talking about (if he doesn't clear).

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If Peckham does have to clear waivers lets hope he does make the team then. He's gonna be solid player for somebody for a long time. Hopefully it's the oilers.

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If we can lose Souray's contract and somehow manage to sign Willie Mitchell and Trade for Ryan Clowe, I would be happy, and we might be a somewhat competitive team.

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So if he clears waivers, we don't need to assign him to OKC do we? I mean do we still have an ECHL affiliate? We could bury him there, not affecting our better prospects either way.
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he would not report

I am liking the KHL option

there is a team in siberia

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SHELDON SOURAY BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $2,400,000
2011-2012: $2,400,000
2012-2013: $1,500,000
2013-2014: $1,500,000


doesnt look the the buy out option is the way to go.....i hope some one claims him. i dont want to eat any salary on re entry or buy out.
I'm pretty sure the buyout period ended on June 30th.

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Somebody quoted a twitter account before (LeBrun?) saying that the Oilers have no intention of buying Souray out.
Souray is no longer eligible for a buyout. The Oilers would have had to waive hime by noon on Wednesday like they did with Moreau, Sully, Nilsson.

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Nobody's buying anybody out. That would have had to happen last month. Terminate, that's what I think we're talking about (if he doesn't clear).
Terminate what? Explain this to me.

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I'm pretty sure the buyout period ended on June 30th.
It did. There is a 48 hour window after Brules arbitration though. No source, just the common sense that after our only arbitration we are opted this right. Lowe signed Souray not Steve. If he doesn't report to OKC in fall than he will be off the books. If he does, than he will have accepted his role. After that people will know that this man actually wants to play in Edmonton and is not throwing up a front.

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Nobody's buying anybody out. That would have had to happen last month. Terminate, that's what I think we're talking about (if he doesn't clear).
You keep saying this and it's still news to me. Do you have a link to the CBA where it says this is possible? Did I miss your response to my previous request?

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This whole thing makes zero sense to me. The Regular Waiver period starts 12 days prior to the beginning of theseason, and we are outside the buyout period. I have no idea what the Oilers might be up to!

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Doesn't he have to play 60 games and he has only played 31?
Hope I'm incorrect but there is also a years provision...here is a link to some info about it

http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm

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Thanks for that. If you want to actually contribute something towards the discussion in the thread. That would be good.
Merely providing some counterbalance to the expensive and slick spin.

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In a really bizarre way this may pave the way for Souray to come back here.

Because I think he's thought all along we haven't tried to trade him, so now Tamby is showing him he literally has no value around the league.

So he's going to have to swallow his pride I think and become a team player here (ie: play some games perhaps and raise his value) or go play in Oklaholma City. And I don't think he wants that obviously.

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This whole thing makes zero sense to me. The Regular Waiver period starts 12 days prior to the beginning of theseason, and we are outside the buyout period. I have no idea what the Oilers might be up to!
Yeah, they are obviously up to something. Maybe Stauffer will know when he comes on the air in 30 min.

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