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07-02-2010, 11:52 AM
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As others have mentioned, this could be a simple case of having a deal in place that brings salary back. The Oilers say "Wait, let's see if someone will take him for nothing". If he clears, they do the deal.

It could still be that whole Brewer situation.

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if one of the reasons we got rid of him was his attitude does it make sense to send him to the minors were all the Oilers young up and coming players are? wont he "poison" that poll as well?
No, he's not in an NHL dressing room. All those young kids we'll be looking at him and saying to themselves that they don't want to end up like that guy. They still want to get to the show. No matter what Souray says that will all be at the back of their minds. Honestly though, I don't think Souray will be staying there. Someone will either claim him, or, he'll be playing for the Oilers with the knowledge that no one else wants him, even at half price.

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07-02-2010, 11:53 AM
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Sheldon's wife made him a jersey - it will break his heart when he realizes 'Waiver Wire' is not an expansion team in Waiver, Wisconsin...
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HALL IS NOT A TOP LINE CENTER IN THE NHL... NOT THIS SEASON, AND NOT NEXT!!!!!!

Cripes, people are delusional. Perhaps Hall is why Tambellini did not offer Boogaard the money he got, Hall is going to goon it up against the top heavyweights in the league as well. Perspective people - Hall will be good, but he will not be leading this team in his rookie year.
you can play players anywhere you want. playing center every year outside of his junior years doesnt mean he cant re-adapt to the position with some "growing pains".

who is a top line center on this team? Horcoff? "LOL" at that. same with Gagner.

if the plan is to move him there, you move him there right away and let him try it out.

perspective people PERSPECTIVE OF SEEING HOCKEY THROUGH A RIGID ONE EYED LENS WITH NO FLEXIBILITY

if he ends up playing center anywhere in his career you can youtube yourself eating a huge turd for us
especially when players like Messier and Modano made the move.
nothings impossible. get over it.

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As others have mentioned, this could be a simple case of having a deal in place that brings salary back. The Oilers say "Wait, let's see if someone will take him for nothing". If he clears, they do the deal.

It could still be that whole Brewer situation.
If that was the case, wouldn't St. Louis just pluck him from waivers?

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If Tambo assigns him to OKC and he refuses to report, is his contract null and void?
Yes, exactly why a buyout or re-entry waivers would make no sense. There's no way Souray would report to Oklahoma, and we'd be off the hook entirely. This fact seems lost on a lot of people when it comes to buy-outs. A lot of bad contracts could probably be nullified around the league by sending guys to the minors and hoping they refuse to report. We could probably do this with Khabibulin as well.

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If that was the case, wouldn't St. Louis just pluck him from waivers?
No, because they want to get rid of Brewer's salary as well.

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If that was the case, wouldn't St. Louis just pluck him from waivers?
Maybe they'd rather get rid of Brewer's salary?

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If there isn't a second part to this plan then I don't really like this move. It would seem like more of a personal vendetta rather than a smart business move. Again I hope there is a part two to this.
Oh really? What exactly would you want the Oilers to do instead. Take on Redden or an equally stupid contract. Because that is pretty much our only other option. WE go from one over paid headache to another and therefore accomplish nothing. I think the only people who don't like this move are the ones who think someone is going to magically give the Oilers something of actual Value. That is not going to happen. No one wants a guy who is broken, has concussion problems, whines when he doesn't get his way and is making 5.4 mil.

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If that was the case, wouldn't St. Louis just pluck him from waivers?
That would defeat the purpose of St.Louis getting to dump salary for taking Souray.

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According to www.capgeek.com If we lose Souray's contract our payroll will be 37.9 million dollars, with 16 players signed. We would have over 22.6 million dollars in cap space.


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you can play players anywhere you want. playing center every year outside of his junior years doesnt mean he cant re-adapt to the position with some "growing pains".

who is a top line center on this team? Horcoff? "LOL" at that. same with Gagner.

if the plan is to move him there, you move him there right away and let him try it out.

perspective people PERSPECTIVE OF SEEING HOCKEY THROUGH A RIGID ONE EYED LENS WITH NO FLEXIBILITY

if he ends up playing center anywhere in his career you can youtube yourself eating a huge turd for us
especially when players like Messier and Modano made the move.
nothings impossible. get over it.
I guess we will see...

Did Messier and Modano do it in their rookie season? I believe I wrote not this year nor next (in reference to Hall becoming a top line center) - I agree that in the long run he could switch to center. But let the kid get his feet wet first before expecting the world of him. A "huge turd"? Are you twelve?

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According to www.capgeek.com If we lost Souray's contract our payroll will be 37.9 million dollars, with 16 players signed. We would still have over 22.6 million dollars in cap space.
And who was that moron reporter from Toronto back in February who said the Oilers were screwed for years to come?

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According to www.capgeek.com If we lost Souray's contract our payroll will be 37.9 million dollars, with 16 players signed. We would still have over 22.6 million dollars in cap space.
Hello Kovalchuk.

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And who was that moron reporter from Toronto back in February who said the Oilers were screwed for years to come?
Damian Cox


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Ok. its official... I think I may have just fallen in love with Tambo at this move.

It's about time we had management with some back bone that is not going to bend over for players who do not want to be here. I love it, if you don't want to be here "Then get the hell out".... LOVE IT.

I could care less if we get anything for Souray. We are getting more in the sense of some respect and reputation that selfish piss poor attitude players are no longer going to walk all over us.

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And who was that moron reporter from Toronto back in February who said the Oilers were screwed for years to come?
Damien Cox, and he's still saying it.

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Oh really? What exactly would you want the Oilers to do instead. Take on Redden or an equally stupid contract. Because that is pretty much our only other option. WE go from one over paid headache to another and therefore accomplish nothing. I think the only people who don't like this move are the ones who think someone is going to magically give the Oilers something of actual Value. That is not going to happen. No one wants a guy who is broken, has concussion problems, whines when he doesn't get his way and is making 5.4 mil.
How about wait? There is no rush to do anything with him, unless we need the cap room. Remember when lowe had a personal vendetta wit Comrie? That didn't go over well. Again I just hope there is a second part to this.

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I guess Tambellini saw how much Defenseman was in demand yesterday and choose to do it now, hoping someone who couldn't make their catch yesterday will jump on grapping Souray on impulse.

So which team do you guys think will be interested in claiming Souray?

Off the top of my head, may be Atlanta, NYI & Colorado?

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Oilers=rebuild

Kolvachuk probably doesn't want to join another rebuild....

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I guess Tambellini saw how much Defenseman was in demand yesterday and choose to do it now, hoping someone who couldn't make their catch yesterday will jump on grapping Souray on impulse.

So which team do you guys think will be interested in claiming Souray?

Off the top of my head, may be Atlanta, NYI & Colorado?
I could see the Isles doing it maybe, Carolina, they had a brutal PP from what I recall.

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True, but they haven't said they are sending him to the minor.

Sometimes, people with too much ego needs to be humbled & floored. He brought it on to himself when he accused the organization of all those damaging stuff without any proof.

And he hasn't helped the team moving him by having a list of only 5 or 6 teams back at the trading deadline where it's easiest time to make a trade.
I think the house cleaning this summer was proof enough. I actually think he helped this Org. big time by those comments. At the same time he makes us look bad so management was forced to do there house cleaning to save face for UFA's. They also have to cull the messenger as well. Souray is kind of a martyr at the end of the day.

tks.

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After Souray came out Quinn was quite pissed and said if a player didn't want to be there then get out and we don't want you. Also last week Tambo said Souray was going to be taken care of by Saturday so I think this was in the plans from the get go if they couldn't deal him by today.

Sourays comments about being happy to come back if they wanted him seems like he new what was in store for him if he couldn't get delt.


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How about wait? There is no rush to do anything with him, unless we need the cap room. Remember when lowe had a personal vendetta wit Comrie? That didn't go over well. Again I just hope there is a second part to this.
Lowe f'd that little scenario up by asking for money back. That was unreasonable. There is nothing unreasonable here. We can't trade you for anything we perceive as value, so here is your wish, your no longer on the team.

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Weird. You would think their would be a market for a dman with a massive contract coming off major surgery, has an injury history and a season with 13 points and being a -19. Especially in a cap era. But **** me right?
Exactly. I'm not sure why people are shocked that Souray has ZERO value at his current price. He's missed the majority of 3 of the last 4 seasons, he's clearly injury prone. Tambo is trying everything he can to move a player who doesn't want to be here. Moving Souray is not going to be easy, nobody is going to claim him, not a chance, not at 5.4 per for 2 more seasons. But, what about teams looking for a PP specialist?? Souray played 37 games last season... He had 0 PP goals. Souray, when healthy, is a very good dman, the problem is, the guy is rarely healthy and no one is going to take that gamble, unless they can send another questionable contract or 2 back Edmonton;s way.

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Wow. Huge brass balls move. Still, it'd be nice to get assets back, but if they can rid themselves of that contract without taking any money back, that's a helluva move.

Next: Khabibulin.

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