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07-03-2010, 03:29 PM
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haven't found anyone with any credibility saying it.

The tweet I posted only says Boston.
Oh, I agree about the credibility, and I think the likelihood of us ending up with Zherdev is nonexistent anyway. But the rumors about Buffalo's interest in Zherdev are out there in Twitter-land, so I can see where nudave would have picked up on them.

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07-03-2010, 04:39 PM
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Zherdev only makes sense if the Sabres are going to open up the offense again like in 05-06. Vanek-Roy-Zherdev could be a very dynamic line provided they were allowed to skate.

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07-03-2010, 04:47 PM
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Zherdev only makes sense if the Sabres are going to open up the offense again like in 05-06. Vanek-Roy-Zherdev could be a very dynamic line provided they were allowed to skate.
We would certainly have the talent with Kennedy/Gerbe and Ennis on the 3rd line.

Just for fun..

Vanek - Roy - Zherdev
Hecht - Connolly - Pominville
Kennedy - Ennis - Grier

And our defense can skate really well. I would give anything for Ruff to open it back up even if we dont get a RW for Roy and Vanek.. Let the guys play.

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07-03-2010, 05:35 PM
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Darcy doesnt like Russian players.
Really? I'd have figured that Ruff has had more issues with them, considering how often the last two regulars (Afinogenov, Kalinin) were always ending up in his dog house.

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07-03-2010, 05:38 PM
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Zherdev only makes sense if the Sabres are going to open up the offense again like in 05-06. Vanek-Roy-Zherdev could be a very dynamic line provided they were allowed to skate.
Very true - but, even if the rules enforcement was like it was then, I still don't think Zherdev has ever shown a real willingness to compete and work hard. He's one of those players that is oozing with so much raw talent and skill that they think they can just flip a switch on their work ethic. That's the reason both Columbus and Rangers grew tired of him - too many invisible nights.

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Really? I'd have figured that Ruff has had more issues with them, considering how often the last two regulars (Afinogenov, Kalinin) were always ending up in his dog house.
Zhitnik says hello.

Ruff doesn't like players who don't bring consistent efforts.

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07-03-2010, 06:37 PM
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Very true - but, even if the rules enforcement was like it was then, I still don't think Zherdev has ever shown a real willingness to compete and work hard. He's one of those players that is oozing with so much raw talent and skill that they think they can just flip a switch on their work ethic. That's the reason both Columbus and Rangers grew tired of him - too many invisible nights.
Maybe he got a reminder of why he left russia in the first place now he's running back with a new found sense of work ethic so we don't ship him back. He'll be unstoppable!

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He did lead the Rangers in scoring, on a Tom Renney defense first team. Was also one of the few + players on that team.

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Zhitnik says hello.

Ruff doesn't like players who don't bring consistent efforts.
I did say "the last two regulars" - Kalinin and Afinogenov were the last two starters, more recent than Zhitnik.

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07-03-2010, 07:30 PM
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You guys would love Zherdev, while being frustrated with him at the same time. Watching him with the Rangers two years ago, I can tell you he is one of the more skilled players right now. Problem is, he doesn't always use it. He can be lazy, and bad defensivley, but when he actually puts it all together for a shift, it's incredible to watch. He has a laser beam wrist shot, and has incredible vision. He would make the players around him better, and he would be a bargain.

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Ehh I look at it this way. He can be lazy for 42 games. Miller will steal us half of those. We win 75% of the games he plays his ass off thats 51 wins and then he can work his ass of in the playoffs = Stanley Cup. It's simple math. I'm in!

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Is it me, or does Regier always seem to work 4th of july weekend? Maybe this rumor has some wheels. It could also give some clarity to Quinn's 'interesting' comment.

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KHL's Atlant's website, where Zherdev played last year, has information that Zherdev is negotiating with the #Leafs and the #Sabres.

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KHL's Atlant's website, where Zherdev played last year, has information that Zherdev is negotiating with the #Leafs and the #Sabres.
hmm, cant imagine which team has the better chance lol.

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KHL's Atlant's website, where Zherdev played last year, has information that Zherdev is negotiating with the #Leafs and the #Sabres.



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"Buffalo" and "Toronto" called Zherdeva
Buffalo and Toronto are interested in the services of star KHL Nikolai Zherdeva. Overseas clubs already have proposed that the charismatic striker who last season played for Moscow Region Atlant. However, so far the parties have not found a common language - Zherdev wants a long term contract with a salary not less than $ 4 million a year.
- While I can not comment on this information, let's wait a week - said one of the agents hockey player Igor Popov. - The situation is difficult at the moment. But I can confirm that the most likely, Nicholas goes to the NHL.

Hmm, Long term @ 4 mil. ,not gonna happen here.

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07-05-2010, 10:47 AM
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I'm "intrigued"

We could really use a high end offensive forward. I'd go 4 mil for 3 years.

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Hmm, Long term @ 4 mil. ,not gonna happen here.
to be perfectly honest, i understand the stigma of russian players and their work ethic, let alone the ones who book for the KHL.. but, i watched him play a lot (cuz i got the rangers games at school) and he is a good player. he was far and away their best player in a year that they had a pretty decent team... he could end up being a bargain at 4 a year. i mean ****, leopold at 3, i dont see how 4 is so outrageous for a guy who will be a top scorer for your team.

just sayin, i wouldnt cry myself to sleep if he signed elsewhere.

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Take the number of years Zherdev wants, subtract 1, and that what Regier's going to offer without budging.

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to be perfectly honest, i understand the stigma of russian players and their work ethic, let alone the ones who book for the KHL.. but, i watched him play a lot (cuz i got the rangers games at school) and he is a good player. he was far and away their best player in a year that they had a pretty decent team... he could end up being a bargain at 4 a year. i mean ****, leopold at 3, i dont see how 4 is so outrageous for a guy who will be a top scorer for your team.

just sayin, i wouldnt cry myself to sleep if he signed elsewhere.
Long term is the risk not the per year.

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Zherdev only makes sense if the Sabres are going to open up the offense again like in 05-06. Vanek-Roy-Zherdev could be a very dynamic line provided they were allowed to skate.
Allowed to skate?

Puck possession requires players to skate their ***** off to be in puck support positions in all areas of the ice. The better skaters you ahve the better you should be able to play that style.

I must have missed it when the Red Wings stop skating and scoring to play this style of hockey.

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Long term is the risk not the per year.
i see it only as a risk in the sense that he might jet back to russia, not in the production tail off sense. hes only 25.

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i see it only as a risk in the sense that he might jet back to russia, not in the production tail off sense. hes only 25.
He is an unknown commodity in terms of his growth as a player. Will there be more offense? Will he become more rounded as a player? Will his consitancy/effort improve? He plays a position we already have big money tied up in. He may develop more but at this point he is behind Vanek and Pommer as NHL wingers.

Right now you would be committing 4+mil to an inconsistant, defensively suspect winger that will pot you 25-ish gols and net 60-ish pts.

Why commit long term big money on a player like that? Just so we can make fans happy that we signed someone?

If he was a center I could see maybe taking the chance but another winger? Its risky to go long term with a player like him IMO.

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Dreger just said Leafs have no interest in Zherdev.

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He is an unknown commodity in terms of his growth as a player. Will there be more offense? Will he become more rounded as a player? Will his consitancy/effort improve? He plays a position we already have big money tied up in. He may develop more but at this point he is behind Vanek and Pommer as NHL wingers.

Right now you would be committing 4+mil to an inconsistant, defensively suspect winger that will pot you 25-ish gols and net 60-ish pts.

Why commit long term big money on a player like that? Just so we can make fans happy that we signed someone?

If he was a center I could see maybe taking the chance but another winger? Its risky to go long term with a player like him IMO.
id probably take the risk at a 3 year deal, 5 or 6 is too long. 1 or 2 would be ideal. but probably in his agents eyes, we win that deal and he could prob find a more desperate team. my guess is darcy feels a 1 year deal is the only option.

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