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07-05-2010, 11:43 AM
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Leafs are NOT interested in Zherdev

http://tsn.ca/story/?id=326649

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I dont know if this is new, but the Sabres have made an offer to Zherdev.

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I dont know if this is new, but the Sabres have made an offer to Zherdev.
http://twitter.com/dchesnokov/status/17793662136

How much can you trust a KHL team website?

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07-05-2010, 12:11 PM
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I'm cautiously optimistic about the prospect of signing him. I'd be concerned about him being a bit of a floater and getting in Ruff's doghouse, but I can't imagine him that the FO would make this move without Ruff's input. He could prove to be the offensive shot in the arm the team is lacking. Real boom or bust situation, though. I'd hate to be stuck with a near useless 4 mil. cap hit in 3 years time because he didn't work out.

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If it does hold water, I'll take him.

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I find reading this thread somewhat like watching the show Jackass. I know that something is going to happen that will result in pain and maybe injury, but somehow I keep watching because it's so darn entertaining...

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,253719

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In other KHL news, Nikolai Zherdev(notes) is hoping to get a nice present for his wedding.

Zherdev got married yesterday in Moscow to his girlfriend of a few years. As for the present, Atlanta Mytishchi's website -- the KHL club where Zherdev played last season -- is reporting that the Buffalo Sabres and the Toronto Maple Leafs are interested in signing Zherdev. According to the club website, both teams have already made an offer to the player (something that Kevin McGran of the Toronto Star has denied as far as the Leafs are concerned).

Nevertheless, Atlant's website is reporting that Zherdev and the clubs can't find the common ground because of the player's salary demand of $4 million.

One of Zherdev's agents, Igor Popov, said the following to the Atlant's website: "I cannot comment on this information yet. Let's wait a week. The situation is not easy right now. But I can confirm that Nikolai will most likely leave for the NHL."
There is no chance that Regier gives Zherdev $4M per.

NOT

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07-05-2010, 12:24 PM
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There is no chance that Regier gives Zherdev $4M per.

NOT

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They have money to spend. He gave Leopold $3mil per ffs.

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07-05-2010, 12:39 PM
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Zherdev only makes sense if they ship out Stafford. Which I would welcome.

It's a gamble and I'd love to see Darcy take one.

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Zherdev only makes sense if they ship out Stafford. Which I would welcome.

It's a gamble and I'd love to see Darcy take one.
Yep. Zherdev > Stafford for sure, and it's high time the Sabres took a gamble. Do it, Darcy.

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07-05-2010, 12:47 PM
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Make this one happen, Darcy.

Then go and get Kaberle. Connolly, Stafford, one of Butler/Sekera plus a good pick / prospect. Add a solid 3rd/4th line C and a decent backup and you have a better chance than before.

Vanek - Roy - Zherdev
Hecht - Ennis - Pominville
Kennedy - xxxx - Grier
McCormick - Gaustad - Kaleta

Kaberle - Myers
Leopold - Montador
Sekera/Butler/Weber - Rivet.

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From what I know of it, Chesnokov is the real deal when it comes to rumors regarding Russian players. Given that Dreger just reported that the Leafs dropped out of negotiations, I wonder if there is an offer currently on the table.

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07-05-2010, 01:06 PM
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With how tight-lipped the Sabres are, I doubt we'll get anything more credible.

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Signing Zherdev ($3.75m) and acquiring Kaberle ($4.25), but losing Stafford and one of Butler/Sekera would be a net $5.1-$5.3 gain on the cap.
Don't forget the $6+ million that walked out the door on July 1st in Tallinder and Lydman (with only Leopold coming in).

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With how tight-lipped the Sabres are, I doubt we'll get anything more credible.



Don't forget the $6+ million that walked out the door on July 1st in Tallinder and Lydman (with only Leopold coming in).
That's already factored in. He's talking on what the teams cap is at now, which is ~$7M space with a backup goalie.

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That's already factored in. He's talking on what the teams cap is at now, which is ~$7M space with a backup goalie.
Never mind then. My mind is clouded by the thought of making a move.

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They have money to spend. He gave Leopold $3mil per ffs.
He gave Leopld $3M per in large part due to the fact that he had just lost 2 of his top 4 defenseman to UFA.

Did the Sabres lose Vanek & Pominville to UFA and I miss it?

Zherdev makes no logical sense as Regier has shown nothing but patience with his top 6 forwards.

Add in the fact that the Sabres have been leaning heavily towards North Americans lately and Zherdev is a Russian with effort issues and I don't see the fit.

Bottom line, I see the odds of the Sabres signing Zherdev being about as good as those of the Sabres signing Kovalchuk:

0.000000000000001%

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sabres fans should know better.

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He gave Leopld $3M per in large part due to the fact that he had just lost 2 of his top 4 defenseman to UFA.

Did the Sabres lose Vanek & Pominville to UFA and I miss it?

Zherdev makes no logical sense as Regier has shown nothing but patience with his top 6 forwards.

Add in the fact that the Sabres have been leaning heavily towards North Americans lately and Zherdev is a Russian with effort issues and I don't see the fit.

Bottom line, I see the odds of the Sabres signing Zherdev being about as good as those of the Sabres signing Kovalchuk:

0.000000000000001%
They have $7m to spend, it's gotta go somewhere. Regier said a few times that he wants to upgrade the forwards and they've already made some offers to forwards. I can see the "Sabres don't like Russians" but I don't see any reason why they don't sign a forward.

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They have $7m to spend, it's gotta go somewhere. Regier said a few times that he wants to upgrade the forwards and they've already made some offers to forwards. I can see the "Sabres don't like Russians" but I don't see any reason why they don't sign a forward.
The Sabres are above the cap sloor, so there is no need to spend more than they have on the books today.

Zherdev is a guy who's talented, but he's never produced to the point that I would see Regier rolling the dice on giving him $4M per.

Zherdev has never hit 30 goals. He's hit 60 pts once.

Reportedly the Sabres were in on Matthew Lombardi. He went for $3.5M per.

If the Sabres weren't willing to go to $3.5M per for Lombardi, what makes you think that they would go to $4M per for Zherdev?

Heck, I think teh Sarbes giving $3 to 3.5M per to Stempniak is waaaaaay more believable than giving $4M per to Zherdev.

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Zherdev is 2 years younger than Lombardi and Lombari's career high is 53 for this past year.

Zherdev had 54 as a 21 year old, 61 as a 23 year old and 58 as a 24 year old on a crappy Columbus team. Also, consider Hitchcock being the coach.

Roy got his $4m contract after: 46 in 70 as a 23 year old and 63 in 75 as a 24 year old. But that was 3+ years ago. Roy was also an RFA.

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The Sabres are above the cap sloor, so there is no need to spend more than they have on the books today.

Zherdev is a guy who's talented, but he's never produced to the point that I would see Regier rolling the dice on giving him $4M per.

Zherdev has never hit 30 goals. He's hit 60 pts once.

Reportedly the Sabres were in on Matthew Lombardi. He went for $3.5M per.

If the Sabres weren't willing to go to $3.5M per for Lombardi, what makes you think that they would go to $4M per for Zherdev?

Heck, I think teh Sarbes giving $3 to 3.5M per to Stempniak is waaaaaay more believable than giving $4M per to Zherdev.
having a guy reach 60 points for the sabres is pretty good seeing as almost noone on our team can do that, sooo........

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The Sabres are above the cap sloor, so there is no need to spend more than they have on the books today.

Zherdev is a guy who's talented, but he's never produced to the point that I would see Regier rolling the dice on giving him $4M per.

Zherdev has never hit 30 goals. He's hit 60 pts once.

Reportedly the Sabres were in on Matthew Lombardi. He went for $3.5M per.

If the Sabres weren't willing to go to $3.5M per for Lombardi, what makes you think that they would go to $4M per for Zherdev?

Heck, I think teh Sarbes giving $3 to 3.5M per to Stempniak is waaaaaay more believable than giving $4M per to Zherdev.
Lombardi isnt close to the scorer Zherdev is. And if your Buffalo and think you can get Zherdev for 3 years and 3.5-4M a year why would you sign Lombardi for that same deal?

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The Sabres are above the cap sloor, so there is no need to spend more than they have on the books today.

Zherdev is a guy who's talented, but he's never produced to the point that I would see Regier rolling the dice on giving him $4M per.

Zherdev has never hit 30 goals. He's hit 60 pts once.

Reportedly the Sabres were in on Matthew Lombardi. He went for $3.5M per.

If the Sabres weren't willing to go to $3.5M per for Lombardi, what makes you think that they would go to $4M per for Zherdev?

Heck, I think teh Sarbes giving $3 to 3.5M per to Stempniak is waaaaaay more believable than giving $4M per to Zherdev.
The Sabres have spent close to the cap since the lockout so sheer historical precedent alone tells me they will be spending more. Vcv responded to the rest.

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Eh, without some other move(s) happening, I don't see them bringing in wingers.

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