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07-06-2010, 01:20 PM
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good for him. i certainly won't miss walsh talking **** about price and the habs whenever jaro is doing well

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Good contract for the Habs as well. Price can't really demand as much.
Montreal may be able to lock up Price for 5 years at 15 million at a cap hit of 3M / Year.
Good for Jaro. Hopefully we can sign Price to a deal around 8 million over 3 years.

1st 2 years 2.5 million with the 3rd year 3 million.

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07-06-2010, 01:31 PM
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Definitely.

Wonder how much Gomez gets off his contract a year? 44% or so?
Come on be fair to the government dude, he probably gets 48% and then every purchase he makes gets taxed to ****

OK so 44% or less sounds about right after all

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That's the contract Montreal didn't want to give him? Wow that's a nice number for a guy that good. Sort of surprised that was a figure Montreal didn't like.

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07-06-2010, 01:44 PM
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That's the contract Montreal didn't want to give him? Wow that's a nice number for a guy that good. Sort of surprised that was a figure Montreal didn't like.
Before you act condescending, take into account that taxes in Quebec are double what they are elsewhere. If it was your contract you were negotiating, you would take into account.

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This contract alone should prove to hab fans that PG made the right call. Halak would have demanded 4 mil per for 4 years and Price???

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Before you act condescending, take into account that taxes in Quebec are double what they are elsewhere. If it was your contract you were negotiating, you would take into account.
And the majority of the people don't understand that we need to overpay players 90% of the time if we want them to sign here.

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Definitely.

Wonder how much Gomez gets off his contract a year? 44% or so?
according to this: http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/qc.htm

he'd pay 48%. however i am sure he has an accountant and some investments that lower it a bit.

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07-06-2010, 01:53 PM
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It is truly a sad day, in Montreal Canadiens history, when this team cannot afford a great goaltender, but the St. Louis Blues can. It will be a very long time before a Stanley Cup is ever seen again in Montreal, because the Montreal Canadiens won it. A sad day indeed.

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07-06-2010, 01:55 PM
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It is truly a sad day, in Montreal Canadiens history, when this team cannot afford a great goaltender, but the St. Louis Blues can. It will be a very long time before a Stanley Cup is ever seen again in Montreal, because the Montreal Canadiens won it. A sad day indeed.
Yes because cap space has nothing to do with affording a goalie. I swear I really wonder about the fans sometimes.

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07-06-2010, 01:56 PM
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Hopefully people understand why the trade now?

With Halak signing a good deal, cap hit at 3.75 then you would have to add that to whatever Price gets and you are now paying over 5.5 for your 2 goalies. Instead we get Price for 2.75 say and Auld for 1, now you got two guys to get you through the season and stay under 4mil. Good job by Habs if they can get Price to a reasonable contract.
Price should be looking for a short deal, 1 or 2 years around 2.5mil(that is just my opinion)

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07-06-2010, 02:08 PM
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Yes because cap space has nothing to do with affording a goalie. I swear I really wonder about the fans sometimes.
Quite true. The Habs seem to be more profitable than the Blues.

Remember the pre-cap Molson era, when some teams (the Red Wings and Rangers in particular) were willing to go into the $75M range and Leaf fans sneered at the lowly Habs because they had to unload some of their best players?

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Quite true. The Habs seem to be more profitable than the Blues.

Remember the pre-cap Molson era, when some teams were willing to go into the $75M range and Leaf fans could sneer at the lowly Habs because they to unload their best okayers?
but the whole point of not being able to afford Halak has nothing to do with how much money the team makes, it's because the team didn't have the cap space to spend 6 million dollars on two goalies.

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07-06-2010, 02:15 PM
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With Halak signing a good deal, cap hit at 3.75 then you would have to add that to whatever Price gets and you are now paying over 5.5 for your 2 goalies. Instead we get Price for 2.75 say and Auld for 1, now you got two guys to get you through the season and stay under 4mil. Good job by Habs if they can get Price to a reasonable contract.
Price should be looking for a short deal, 1 or 2 years around 2.5mil(that is just my opinion)
Should have traded Price with AK or Hammer, went out and signed a UFA and then signed Halak for 3.75 or 3.5. He might have taken that from us.

So, we save less than a mil and are stuck with Price.

Halak is a proven #1.

This is disgusting. Why are the Molson Bros. allowing this incompetent fool run this team? Clean house now!

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according to this: http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/qc.htm

he'd pay 48%. however i am sure he has an accountant and some investments that lower it a bit.
I guess there is no clause in a contract that adjusts the pay if you are traded... never thought of that.

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Should have traded Price with AK or Hammer, went out and signed a UFA and then signed Halak for 3.75 or 3.5. He might have taken that from us.

So, we save less than a mil and are stuck with Price.

Halak is a proven #1.

This is disgusting. Why are the Molson Bros. allowing this incompetent fool run this team? Clean house now!
Wow. i didn't know it was that easy, clearly you should be our gm.

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07-06-2010, 02:30 PM
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Before you act condescending, take into account that taxes in Quebec are double what they are elsewhere. If it was your contract you were negotiating, you would take into account.
This only has meaning if the player is an UFA and has an option to sign somewhere else.

We don't have to "overpay" for RFAs.

You guys are riridulous with the whole "would have cost 0.5M more here". C'mon..

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07-06-2010, 02:30 PM
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good signing.

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07-06-2010, 02:33 PM
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Good deal for both the Blues and Halak

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07-06-2010, 02:43 PM
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I don't know guys, that really seems like a LOT of money and a LOT of term for a guy who basically strang together a good half season and has yet to show he can last a full year of NHL duties.
I agree...St. Louis is taking a risk here cuz Halak has never shouldered a full workload, and still displays some inconsistencies (lots of his fanboys here kind of gloss over the fact that he played kind of poorly vs. Philly in the ECF).

Not to say that the Habs haven't taken a risk going just with Price.

We'll see, in today's NHL you need to take chances to win. If both goalies play well and Eller breaks out in the next 1-2 years then the Habs win the trade in terms of salary margin saved.

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Quite true. The Habs seem to be more profitable than the Blues.

Remember the pre-cap Molson era, when some teams (the Red Wings and Rangers in particular) were willing to go into the $75M range and Leaf fans sneered at the lowly Habs because they had to unload some of their best players?
If the Habs are more profitable then doesn't that mean more money to afford a contract like the one Halak got?

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Should have traded Price with AK or Hammer, went out and signed a UFA and then signed Halak for 3.75 or 3.5. He might have taken that from us.

So, we save less than a mil and are stuck with Price.

Halak is a proven #1.

This is disgusting. Why are the Molson Bros. allowing this incompetent fool run this team? Clean house now!
Trading Price would be a huge blunder. Price's stats were comparable to Halak's,he had zero support last season, and played most of his games when Markov was out. Halak had a great run for about a few months and we should award him with such a deal? Does one playoff run make him a #1 goalie? No.

And, you make trading Hamer and/or Kosty sound so easy. It is not like we could dump them without receiving a hefty contract in return that would not allow us to sign a UFA.

IMHO, St. Louis is taking a major risk with this contract.

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It is truly a sad day, in Montreal Canadiens history, when this team cannot afford a great goaltender, but the St. Louis Blues can. It will be a very long time before a Stanley Cup is ever seen again in Montreal, because the Montreal Canadiens won it. A sad day indeed.


so blues are winning the cup next season because they have halak...cool.

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so blues are winning the cup next season because they have halak...cool.


so canadiens are winning the cup next season because they have price...cool.

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so blues are winning the cup next season because they have halak...cool.
Haven't you heard? Hockey is an individual sport played between two goalie......

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Haven't you heard? Hockey is an individual sport played between two goalie......
Only in Montreal.

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