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07-07-2010, 06:21 AM
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What was the last season where people didn't say that about Hemsky. Seems like he is always about to break out and never actually does it.
He looked like he would do that if didn't get injured... that just isn't something he could affect.

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I think you could get someone like Corvo and a decent defensive prospect, but that's the most for him.

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Hemsky's shoulder is fine, and it was his first injury. A total nonfactor at this point.
I suggest you look into what caused him to miss 18 games in 06-07 and 10 games in 08-09.

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Gunnarsson + Reimer and a pick (3rd/4th) for Hemsky

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Sens offer you: Pick of D prospect (Cowen, Wiercioch, Rundblad), Kuba, Lee, Pick

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Sens offer you: Pick of D prospect (Cowen, Wiercioch, Rundblad), Kuba, Lee, Pick
I know you added Kuba for cap purposes, but this move would decimate our current defense. Kuba, Lee and Cowen could all conceivably start the year in Ottawa. I say wait until the trade deadline when Hemsky's cap impact would only be like 1mil so we don't have to move salary.

This is my offer:

Pick of D prospect (Wiercioch, Rundblad), Lee, 1st

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07-07-2010, 07:26 AM
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I know you added Kuba for cap purposes, but this move would decimate our current defense. Kuba, Lee and Cowen could all conceivably start the year in Ottawa. I say wait until the trade deadline when Hemsky's cap impact would only be like 1mil so we don't have to move salary.

This is my offer:

Pick of D prospect (Wiercioch, Rundblad), Lee, 1st
Yeah I see your point.

Gonchar Phillips
Karlsson Campoli
Carkner Prospect

Isn't good enough, it's close though, but yeh, not quite there.

EDIT: And yeah, your proposal sounds good to me. Edmonton fans?

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Id love Hemsky on the habs. We dont have a lot to offer

Maybe Pouliot + Weber/Carle 2nd.

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07-07-2010, 07:33 AM
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i would say the sens should/could offer

lee
kelly
wiercioch

for

hemsky

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Hemsky is so under rated this thread makes me thorw up a little bit

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What is the point of Value of threads? All posters do is try and fantasy lowball a good player, thinking that they might get him for real with their garbage.

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lolwut?

Know what you're talking about before talking next time.
Actually you are incorrect and he is correct and I'm an oiler fan. You should do a little research before saying you know what you're talking about.

59, 71, 81, 64, 74, 72, 22 games played.

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Lol what a joke of a thread, I see people overpaying for Hemsky and people being cheap..

Here's what the Kings can offer you:


Justin Williams
Oscar Moller
Thomas Hickey/Colten Teubert/Davis Drewiske/Alec Martinez
1st or 2nd pick in 2011


Ales Hemsky


Smyth-Kopitar-Hemsky
Richardson-Stoll-Brown
Parse-Handzus-Simmonds
Westgarth-Schenn-Lewis
Clune, Cliche

Doughty-Scuderi
Johnson-XX
Greene-Voynov
Harrold

Bernier
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How about O'Byrne, Pacioretty and a 1st in 2011?

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Russell and Methot from CBJ?
Methot is potentially available; Russell is not. We don't have the puckmoving depth to spare him.

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just for fun, would a Tim Erixon and Matt Pelech be enough? With the obvious not gonna happen ever point aside.

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Actually you are incorrect and he is correct and I'm an oiler fan. You should do a little research before saying you know what you're talking about.

59, 71, 81, 64, 74, 72, 22 games played.
He's played less games over the last 5 years than Sami Salo....if thats not injury prone, I'm not sure what is.

That said, when Hemsky is healthy he's one of the most fun players in the league to watch. He's never really put up the numbers someone of his skill level should be however. He's got a 100 point season in him (if he can stay healthy)but I'm not sure he'll ever do that in Edmonton.

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It's not very often that a player plays the full 82 games in a season. It often has nothing to do with injuries though.
ie the flu
What was the problem in the 2006-07? This isn't a smart-azz remark as I don't know what caused him to miss 18 games that year.

He's a 1st line winger on a decent contract that should net good value.

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07-07-2010, 09:53 AM
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I think the Oilers should keep him unless its for a top line center. No team can run with only rookies in the top six, so lets hang onto him, try to sign him to an extension next off season, and hopefully go ahead with Hemsky as our permanent number one RW. Hall and Hemsky on the top line for years to come would be very, very exciting. And if you consider MPS and Eberle as the future 2nd line wingers of the Oilers, it could be very exciting for years to come. So lets not just sluff of Hemsky, he could be a very important piece of this team's future.

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2010/04/11 Missed the last 57 games of the regular season (left shoulder surgery).
2009/11/11 Missed 2 games (shoulder injury).
2009/10/19 Missed 1 game (flu).

2009/01/18 Missed 10 games (concussion).

2008/04/05 Missed the last game of the regular season (knee injury).
2008/01/05 Missed 5 games (knee injury).
2007/12/05 Missed 2 games (knee injury).

2007/03/27 Missed 1 game (right shoulder injury).
2007/03/23 Missed 8 games (right shoulder injury).
2007/01/20 Missed 1 game (shoulder injury).
2006/12/15 Missed 8 games (right shoulder injury).

2003/02/25 Missed 4 games (abdominal injury).
2003/01/24 Missed 1 game (abdominal injury).
2003/01/16 Missed 0 game (pulled stomach muscle).

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2010/04/11 Missed the last 57 games of the regular season (left shoulder surgery).
2009/11/11 Missed 2 games (shoulder injury).
2009/10/19 Missed 1 game (flu).

2009/01/18 Missed 10 games (concussion).

2008/04/05 Missed the last game of the regular season (knee injury).
2008/01/05 Missed 5 games (knee injury).
2007/12/05 Missed 2 games (knee injury).

2007/03/27 Missed 1 game (right shoulder injury).
2007/03/23 Missed 8 games (right shoulder injury).
2007/01/20 Missed 1 game (shoulder injury).
2006/12/15 Missed 8 games (right shoulder injury).

2003/02/25 Missed 4 games (abdominal injury).
2003/01/24 Missed 1 game (abdominal injury).
2003/01/16 Missed 0 game (pulled stomach muscle).
So he has a history of some minor injuries...18 for his right shoulder, over two seasons, and the big one last year. Good list, proves he has had some injuries, but only the one from last season was major. I would understand some teams reluctance to trade for a guy who missed over half a season and hasn't played a game yet since recovering...it would affect his value right now, which is yet another reason the Oil need to keep him.

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I'd love Hemsky on our squad. What'll it take? Would something like this be of viable value?

1 of Kevin Shattenkirk/Stefan Elliot/Cameron Gaunce (probably our 3 best prospects); 1 of Kyle Cumiskey/John-Michael Liles; and a 4th?

or

1 of Joel Chouinard/Jonas Holos/Colby Cohen; Kyle Quincey; and 4th.

We don't really have any young d-men that are physical. Ryan Wilson probably isn't what you're looking for. But he's another option. Hannan and Foote clearly don't fit that bill. I think Quincey would be too much with one of our top D prospects (but could be bundled with a lesser D prospect).

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idk hes good, but hes also very injury prone. i will tell you know its not worth a schenn, but not as low as a finger. maaaybe a bieska type.
Hemsky>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Schenn

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You do when the player in question is a winger, has no 2-way game, is one of the least physical players in the entire NHL, and can't score 25 goals in a season. Plus, he's never actually been a point per game player.
Are you done playing "know-it-all" and ready for the truth?

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You do when the player in question is a winger, has no 2-way game, is one of the least physical players in the entire NHL, and can't score 25 goals in a season. Plus, he's never actually been a point per game player.
Hemsky had no 2-way game and is one of the least physical guys in the NHL?

Please, have some semblance of an idea of what you're talking about next time. The only thing this post proves is that you've never seen Hemsky play in your life. Thanks for coming in with your expert opinion tough champ.

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