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07-09-2010, 08:08 PM
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Buffalo-Calgary

I normally don't do these but I just want to know if this is fair value and if both teams (or the fans anyway) would do this.

To Calgary: C Derek Roy, RW Drew Stafford
To Buffalo: C Matt Stajan, D Robyn Regehr

Why Calgary does this: They deal from a position of strength (2nd line C's/Defensemen) and get a top playmaking center along with someone that can play the third line RW position.

Why Buffalo does this: They do downgrade in the C position, however, Stajan would be a very capable 2nd line center. The big piece for them would be Robyn Regehr who would bring a very steady defensive presence to their blueline.

Buffalo does take on a little bit in salary.

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Roy has the most value out of any of those players. The Sabres only have two offensive centermen, and Roy is the only one who is consistently in the lineup.

I want Stafford gone, but I think it's overkill from the Buffalo side.

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Roy has the most value out of any of those players. The Sabres only have two offensive centermen, and Roy is the only one who is consistently in the lineup.

I want Stafford gone, but I think it's overkill from the Buffalo side.

I agree. Trading away Roy would mean Buffalo gets a great return.

This isn't a great return.

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Roy has the most value out of any of those players. The Sabres only have two offensive centermen, and Roy is the only one who is consistently in the lineup.

I want Stafford gone, but I think it's overkill from the Buffalo side.
Which is why Stajan is included in the deal. You gotta give to get.

To put it into simplistic HFboards terms:

Roy>Regehr
Stajan>Stafford

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its fair but if buffalo was trading roy for a dman it would be for an offence Dman.

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07-09-2010, 08:28 PM
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No interest at giving up Roy in any package that doesn't involve a center with at least equal talent. It makes virtually no sense for the Sabres. If/when Connolly goes down....

Stajan
Gaustad
Niedermayer
McCormick

Sounds appealing.

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Which is why Stajan is included in the deal. You gotta give to get.

To put it into simplistic HFboards terms:

Roy>Regehr
Stajan>Stafford
True, but "upgrading" Stafford for Stajan serves no purpose for Buffalo at the cost of its best center and (arguably) best forward.

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07-09-2010, 08:54 PM
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whats up with stafford every buff fan wants him gone is he a trouble maker or what

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True, but "upgrading" Stafford for Stajan serves no purpose for Buffalo at the cost of its best center and (arguably) best forward.
True, but a Flames fan may ask: is upgrading to Roy from Stajan (a difference of 12 points last year) really worth the cost of (arguably) our best defensemen? Like I said you have to give to get. For me, it's worth it; other Flames fans may disagree.

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True, but a Flames fan may ask: is upgrading to Roy from Stajan (a difference of 12 points last year) really worth the cost of (arguably) our best defensemen? Like I said you have to give to get. For me, it's worth it; other Flames fans may disagree.
But Buffalo apparently disagrees.

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True, but a Flames fan may ask: is upgrading to Roy from Stajan (a difference of 12 points last year) really worth the cost of (arguably) our best defensemen? Like I said you have to give to get. For me, it's worth it; other Flames fans may disagree.
Our defense struggles without Regehr, as much as I'd love Roy, its not worth it in my eyes.

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I like it because I've heard other Eklund rumors that Roy was involved in trade talk with Reghr since he is a solid defensive d-man that sabres lack to play with Myers

I personally like this trade

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imo the value is higher on Calgary's side than on Buffalo's side and If Connolly didn't have injury issues Buffalo does this pretty quickly.

Roy -> Stajan isn't that huge of a downgrade and getting Regehr is pretty big for Buffalo, he brings a physical presence they just don't have.

But without Connolly the center rotation of Stajan, Gaustad, Niedermayer and McCormick is very scary so I don't think the Sabres can afford to do this.

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I think it's fair value wise. But if you dig deeper, you realize that Buffalo has no center depth. Buffalo's lack of offensive centerman, coupled with Roy's great contract, make his value to Buffalo greater than his value in general. In that sense, it doesn't work.

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Swap Roy for Connolly and a prospect and we're talking.

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I am not a Stajan fan, but that deal is tempting.

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I think it's fair value wise. But if you dig deeper, you realize that Buffalo has no center depth. Buffalo's lack of offensive centerman, coupled with Roy's great contract, make his value to Buffalo greater than his value in general. In that sense, it doesn't work.
If they were actually drawing a line in the sand and changing philosophy, I could be interested in the deal. Regehr is the sort of strong defensive presence they can fill in behind with the rest of the mish-mash they have on the blueline.

Granted, I'm not hot for Stajan in the deal, but Regehr... real interested.

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True, but a Flames fan may ask: is upgrading to Roy from Stajan (a difference of 12 points last year) really worth the cost of (arguably) our best defensemen? Like I said you have to give to get. For me, it's worth it; other Flames fans may disagree.
Well that doesn't concern Buffalo.

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The deal is pretty fair, but I still wouldn't do it. Yes we could use a better physical shut-down defenseman, but I'd rather keep Roy as we need a #1 center even more. I wouldn't want to rely on a guy as unhealthy as Connolly to be my #1 center. Plus I think if given enough time, Mike Weber will fill the "Regehr" role just fine himself.

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I normally don't do these but I just want to know if this is fair value and if both teams (or the fans anyway) would do this.

To Calgary: C Derek Roy, RW Drew Stafford
To Buffalo: C Matt Stajan, D Robyn Regehr

Why Calgary does this: They deal from a position of strength (2nd line C's/Defensemen) and get a top playmaking center along with someone that can play the third line RW position.

Why Buffalo does this: They do downgrade in the C position, however, Stajan would be a very capable 2nd line center. The big piece for them would be Robyn Regehr who would bring a very steady defensive presence to their blueline.

Buffalo does take on a little bit in salary.
I think you are very close value wise. But for Buffalo to part with their #1 center, a guy who has been top 20 in the league in scoring among centers each of the last 3 years, in his prime, locked up below market for 3 more seasons... Calgary is going to have to overpay... sweeten the deal with something of value like a high end prospect or very good young player.

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whats up with stafford every buff fan wants him gone is he a trouble maker or what
No hes a good guy, no attitude problems, keeps him mouth shut...
Former 1st round pick who Sabres fans are getting tired of because of flashes of brilliance, and then very inconsistent play. He disappears in stretches big time. But will make great plays sporadically. Has potential at his age. He has a good amount of value, due to the upside.

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I think Buffalo would be tempted to accept this, but Calgary would need to add a pretty decent prospect or switch Roy to Connolly. Value wise its pretty close, but like others have said, I'm not sure Buffalo can't afford to move Roy without a real solid offensive center coming back in return.

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Well that doesn't concern Buffalo.
And Connolly's injury problems are of no concern to Calgary.

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As a Calgary Fan I would be very reluctant to do this, I dont see how this improves our team much, if at all.

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tbh I'd rather have Backlund than Stajan. It would be great to see Backlund and Ennis develop together.

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