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06-18-2010, 11:59 AM
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Sidney Crosby

As a Leafs fan, I'd give up:

Kulemin
Schenn
Kadri
Phaneuf

And that still won't get it done.

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06-18-2010, 12:00 PM
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Just stop

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As a Leafs fan, I'd give up:

Kulemin
Schenn
Kadri
Phaneuf

And that still won't get it done.
Kaberle alone should get Crosby

Crosby will never be traded. Besides being possibly the best playing in the league, he brings in a ton of money for Pittsburgh through merchandise.

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Why even start this, you know what its gonna lead too...

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06-18-2010, 12:02 PM
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Just stop

True this proposal is crazy but according to u...A first , Hemsky is good value for Malkin hahaha. You have no room to critic.

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Kadri, Schenn, Phaneuf, Kessel, 1st in 2012/13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21/22 for Crosby + 3 salary dumps

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As a Leafs fan, I'd give up:

Kulemin
Schenn
Kadri
Phaneuf

And that still won't get it done.
Kulemin too? Wow!

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I don't see a situation where Pens trade Crosby.

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06-18-2010, 12:06 PM
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True this proposal is crazy but according to u...A first , Hemsky is good value for Malkin hahaha. You have no room to critic.
Show me where I said Hemsky alone is good value for Malkin please

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As a Leafs fan, I'd give up:

Kulemin
Schenn
Kadri
Phaneuf

And that still won't get it done.
In terms of value, it would probably take:

Kessel
Kadri
Phaneuf

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06-18-2010, 12:06 PM
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Add Kessel and then some.

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Right to M.A Bergeron+Ryan White+Andrei Kostitsyn

Take it Pittsburgh or no deal

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Unless Crosby seriously tails off production wise at some point, he is absolutely untradeable.

Since trading for cash or cap space is illegal now, there is simply no trade that could benefit the Pens. From a business perspective they make far too much money from Crosby to ever let him go. From a team success perspective, Crosby is the best player in the world at a more than reasonable salary.

Value wise, I could see two elite rookies still on ELC's plus some additional picks and prospects being fair value, but that still does not address the marketing value Crosby has, and thus, it will never happen.

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06-18-2010, 12:08 PM
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I think he can be had for Tomas Kaberle + Mikhail Grabovski.......only of course if the Pens add a 3rd coming back





















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06-18-2010, 12:09 PM
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Show me where I said Hemsky alone is good value for Malkin please

I mean A first and Hemsky it clearly stats what I wrote... A first, Hemsky...

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Johnson
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Perron
Boyes
1st the next 5 years

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I can't think of even one scenario where the pens would even entertain the idea of trading 87.

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06-18-2010, 12:12 PM
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Show me where I said Hemsky alone is good value for Malkin please
He said a first round pick and Hemsky.

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06-18-2010, 12:13 PM
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O.k.. before this gets brought out to far.. The great #99 was traded so anyone can be traded.. But with that said it is highly unlikely.

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06-18-2010, 12:14 PM
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The problem also becomes one of finances. Sure it's one thing to list 5 current players and ten first round picks, and say maybe that would get Crosby. But what's the value of those players? What's the cost of those players + picks compared to Crosby's salary?

Right now, the Pens are getting a 100+ point scorer, leader and all around dominant player, for $8.7 million. For any deal to make sense, not only do the Pens have to receive equal value (productive players who can score and hustle the way he does), but they also have to combine to make $8.7 million. Otherwise, the Pens are paying more salary for equal or less value.

For example (and just for argument's sake), Edmonton could offer Hemsky, the 1st overall, and Eberle for Crosby. The Pens then have to ask themselves not only whether those three will equal Crosby's production, but how much will those three cost combined when they reach their prime. If Hemsky, Hall and Eberle come close to reaching their ceiling, they're all looking at between $4 to $6 million per year, which suddenly means the Pens are spending $12 to $15 million, just for similar production as they get out of Crosby at $8.7 million.

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06-18-2010, 12:14 PM
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if it were still permitted to trade cash, how much would it take?

Tor:
Kessel
Phaneuf
kadri
Schenn
2 First Rd Picks
40 Million Bucks?

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06-18-2010, 12:15 PM
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Value wise the only player that can be traded for Crosby straight up is Ovechkin (seeing as how Pens can't trade with themselves and give up Malkin for Crosby).

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