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07-09-2010, 10:37 PM
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Mike Sullivan knows Eminger from TB

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...nger-1.2093071
I haven't seen this guy lately. Eminger did have his best season with Sullivan. I'm wondering what TB fans think of him. I suppose I'll just have to take everybody's word that he sucks for now.

edit: I posted to ask TB fans about him. we'll see what they say!
here is some puzzling info I found digging around

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/player...1980&year=2009
In that one good season he was having in Tampa, he logged 25+ min of ice time 18 times going over 30 min in two of those games. His ATOI was 23:32. He was Tampa's most productive D and his supporting cast consisted of

Krajicek 71 games, Meszaros 52 games, Cory Murphy 25 games
Ranger 42 games, Lashoff 12 games, Malik 42 games

and a random mish-mash of other players. That was also the year Lecavlier finished with a paltry 67 points and Tampa finished with a -69 goal differential finishing 2nd to last in the league. The supporting cast could explain his high ice time but it seems like somewhat of a miracle he was on the ice that much and was only a -4 with that blue line and Mike Smith in net.


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07-09-2010, 11:00 PM
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FYI...Jason Strudwick is 50 times better than Eminger ever was.

Eminger sucks. In fact, "sucks" might be putting it mildly.

I'd love to know what Sather has against Shane Hnidy, who makes peanuts yet is always loved and raved about everywhere he goes.


This is Eminger's 6th team in three years. SIXTH.

Voros was an overpaid yet serviceable winger.

Stupid trade. 10,000 UFA d-men out there and we end up with the second coming of Todd Charlesworth or Kevin Chevaldayoff

Do the Rangers scout games? Just curious.
Hnidy was also a teammate of gaborik and boogaard. But like I said Sather loves soft defense. Rangers need toughness on defense. Sather seems to forget that aspect of defense

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07-09-2010, 11:01 PM
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First thing that came up...

Lundqvist to Flames? (e1)

According to my sources within the New York Rangers organization, the Calgary Flames are willing to part with RW Jarome Iginla and a bucket of fried chicken to obtain the services of G Henrik Lundqvist. Remember, you heard it here first!


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07-09-2010, 11:13 PM
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edit: I posted to ask TB fans about him. we'll see what they say!
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He was decent, but it wasn't like great play was the reason for so much ice time. There were a ton of injuries that season, I think the most games played by a defenseman was in the 50's...guys played through injuries like Smaby on a broken foot. I don't think he's as bad as has been exaggerated by other people, but he's not a top 4 defenseman on a good team. He should be on the bottom pairing. The Lightning traded him because his contract was running out and he wasn't in the long term plans...I don't think the Panthers qualified him.

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07-09-2010, 11:22 PM
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Hnidy was also a teammate of gaborik and boogaard. But like I said Sather loves soft defense. Rangers need toughness on defense. Sather seems to forget that aspect of defense
Apparently not any more since draft night...

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07-10-2010, 12:49 AM
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Scariest part is looking at the stat-line between the two:

Redden: 75 2 12 14 +8 27PIM 17:31/G
Eminger: 63 4 12 16 +1 30PIM 19:28/G

Yipes!
that is also similar production as gilroy but eminger had almost double the number of hits, plus more blocked shots. people have said that he is a turnover machine but nhl.com shows him with only 15 giveaways last year vs 25/26 for redden and gilroy...and he makes less $$ then both.

the fact that he'd be a wash or possible upgrade over those 2 is more a tribute to how crappy redden and gilroy are then anything positive about eminger. but if we can get virtually the identical production out of eminger vs redden while saving $5.5 mil in cap space thats a HUGE positive for us...assuming we can find a forward to spend that $$ on.

he might be crap but i'll take 3rd pair crap making $1.125 mil over 3rd pair crap makign $6.5 mil anyday

also as a depth guy it makes it easier to send McD to hartford IF he needs more time.

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07-10-2010, 09:08 AM
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Caps fan here. Eminger was traded because he was no longer in the Caps plans. That McPhee got Carlson as a result is just props to McPhee.

Eminger's problems seem to always be the same. He seems to have a significant confidence or focus problem. He will go on 30 day stretches where his game is together and he looks like a quality top 4 defenseman. Then he will make one mistake and collapse with 4 or 5 terrible games in a row and he ends up scratched.

Eminger lost his spot in the Washington lineup in training camp. He was scratched almost every game for the first half of the season. He would not have cleared waivers and that is why he was not sent to the AHL. Injuries in the playoffs required him to play and he was solid.

Because he is both a puck mover and a right shot there is demand for him particularly when you see his upside. He just has never been able to make it work.

$2.25m for him is a lot

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07-10-2010, 10:44 AM
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Apparently not any more since draft night...
so he drafted tough players, well how come there isnt a tough dman on the rangers, heck bring back mara, at least he would hug most of the time but at least he is always willing to fight

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Caps fan here. Eminger was traded because he was no longer in the Caps plans. That McPhee got Carlson as a result is just props to McPhee.

Eminger's problems seem to always be the same. He seems to have a significant confidence or focus problem. He will go on 30 day stretches where his game is together and he looks like a quality top 4 defenseman. Then he will make one mistake and collapse with 4 or 5 terrible games in a row and he ends up scratched.

Eminger lost his spot in the Washington lineup in training camp. He was scratched almost every game for the first half of the season. He would not have cleared waivers and that is why he was not sent to the AHL. Injuries in the playoffs required him to play and he was solid.

Because he is both a puck mover and a right shot there is demand for him particularly when you see his upside. He just has never been able to make it work.

$2.25m for him is a lot
thanks for the info. He makes 1.125 i think.............Voros sucks. Rangers needa vet 6/7 Dman and didnt need Voros so its a win win for both teams

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07-10-2010, 12:08 PM
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While it's not a "sexy" trade, it fills an organizational need. He's a vet, cheap, hits, and blocks shots. He's a good 6-7 guy. Just don't expect the world from him.

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07-10-2010, 12:40 PM
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This is the type of player Sather needed to sign last year and didnt. The Bouillion / Semenov thing didnt work out and then he ignored the fact that another NHL defenseman was needed. It reared its ugly head throughout most of the season because the rookies needed to be spelled from time to time. It could be argued that the lull the Rangers experienced mid-season was partly the fault of Sather who could have filled this need. Instead they went with the rookies, and payed for it. Then they went for it at the end when he went out and got Eriksson. (Again, no plan)

At least now the Rangers have a serviceable 6th/7th Defenseman and its almost a must to obtain a guy like this if the Rangers have ANY thought of demoting Redden to regain that cap space.

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07-10-2010, 12:56 PM
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FYI...Jason Strudwick is 50 times better than Eminger ever was.

Eminger sucks. In fact, "sucks" might be putting it mildly.

I'd love to know what Sather has against Shane Hnidy, who makes peanuts yet is always loved and raved about everywhere he goes.


This is Eminger's 6th team in three years. SIXTH.

Voros was an overpaid yet serviceable winger.

Stupid trade. 10,000 UFA d-men out there and we end up with the second coming of Todd Charlesworth or Kevin Chevaldayoff

Do the Rangers scout games? Just curious.
Hahaha.

Never thought I'd see the day when someone *****ed about trading Aaron ****ing Voros.

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Hahaha.

Never thought I'd see the day when someone *****ed about trading Aaron ****ing Voros.
Seriously.

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Yeah I'm not sure how Voros was "serviceable." 8 out of every 10 games he was completely invisible, unless he was getting his ass kicked or taking stupid penalties. Aaron was a good teammate, but not a good NHL hockey player.

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Was Eminger hurt a lot throughout his career because he didn play many games?

i dont know about getting him, he doesnt seem like a good defensemen. I've nheard of him, i just don't think he's the right guy.

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Was Eminger hurt a lot throughout his career because he didn play many games?

i dont know about getting him, he doesnt seem like a good defensemen. I've nheard of him, i just don't think he's the right guy.
I know he was a scratch for a number of games last season with the Ducks. I don't think he had any issues related to injury in recent years.

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Was Eminger hurt a lot throughout his career because he didn play many games?

i dont know about getting him, he doesnt seem like a good defensemen. I've nheard of him, i just don't think he's the right guy.
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2010/07/09 Acquired from the Anaheim Ducks.
2010/01/03 Missed 3 games (flu).
2009/12/29 Flu, day-to-day.
2009/11/21 Missed 1 game (back injury).
2009/11/19 Back injury, day-to-day.
2009/09/04 Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Anaheim Ducks to a two-year contract.
2009/06/29 Florida Panthers did not tender a qualifying offer.
2009/03/04 Acquired from the Tampa Bay Lightning.
2009/01/15 Missed 2 games (undisclosed).
2009/01/12 Undisclosed, day-to-day.
2008/11/07 Acquired from the Philadelphia Flyers.
2008/06/29 Re-signed by the Philadelphia Flyers to a one-year contract.
2007/11/26 Missed 8 games (ankle injury).
2007/11/08 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
2007/11/06 Missed 14 games (ankle injury).
2007/10/03 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
2007/07/17 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Washington Capitals.
2007/03/30 Missed 3 games (head injury).
2007/03/22 Head injury, day-to-day.
2006/12/30 Missed 1 game (stomach virus).
2006/12/29 Stomach virus, day-to-day.
2006/11/22 Missed 1 game (undisclosed injury).
2006/11/18 Undisclosed injury, day-to-day.
2006/07/15 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Washington Capitals.
2006/03/06 Missed 16 games (ankle injury).
2006/01/16 Ankle injury, day-to-day.
2005/08/15 Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Washington Capitals.
2004/09/15 Assigned to Portland (AHL).
2004/02/05 Assigned to Portland (AHL).
2004/01/31 Recalled from Portland (AHL).
2004/01/12 Assigned to Portland (AHL).
2004/01/07 Missed 4 games (thigh contusion).
2003/12/31 Thigh contusion, day-to-day.
2003/11/12 Missed 2 games (concussion).
2003/11/08 Concussion, day-to-day.
2003/01/07 Returned to Kitchener (OHL).
2002/12/11 Assigned to the Canadian National Junior Team.
2002/10/07 Signed by the Washington Capitals to a three-year contract.
Ankle issue in 06 and 07... otherwise, he's been pretty healthy.

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What was Voros servicable at? Actually serving people in the press box? Serving up power plays to the other team?
Serving bench minors!


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Serving bench minors!
Voros is a world-class punching bag.

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Yeah I'm not sure how Voros was "serviceable." 8 out of every 10 games he was completely invisible, unless he was getting his ass kicked or taking stupid penalties. Aaron was a good teammate, but not a good NHL hockey player.
a former devils draft pick that never signed, enough said. he is just lucky to be in the NHL. in reality if the rangers didnt overpay for him. hed be in the AHL still

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Voros is a terrible fighter, but still better than Anaheim's Parros. That guy gets whooped every time he drops the gloves.

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Also, I'm not sure where this tissue soft label has come from with Eminger. He's not the toughest or most aggressive defenseman out there, but he's not the huge wuss that some are making him out to be.

Why do so many of the posters here have to either heap ridiculous praise on or absolutely ravage every new player we acquire? So many here either say a guy is incredible, or completely worthless. Emminger is neither--he's a decent bottom pairing defenseman. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Also, I'm not sure where this tissue soft label has come from with Eminger. He's not the toughest or most aggressive defenseman out there, but he's not the huge wuss that some are making him out to be.

Why do so many of the posters here have to either heap ridiculous praise on or absolutely ravage every new player we acquire? So many here either say a guy is incredible, or completely worthless. Emminger is neither--he's a decent bottom pairing defenseman. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Also if we had kept him his contract demands would have been too high due to his placement as one of our top dmen that year, when as has been said he is a bottom pairing dman.
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For us he was ok, one of our best defense-man, not difficult to be one because our D was *****
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He wasn't bad but we ended up letting him go for free if I remember correctly. Tells you something about our core of Dmen at the time.
As a bottom pairing guy, I think we will not have any problems big with him. He also took out some guys with boarding/check from behinds. Not something a soft guy does.

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We need Dmen pretty bad. Eminger has played an NHL game. I'm cool with this.

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Voros is a terrible fighter, but still better than Anaheim's Parros. That guy gets whooped every time he drops the gloves.
parros would mash in voros' face

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