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Are you serious? The Hawks have 14 roster players at the moment, and are AT THE CAP. Even if you waive Huet you'll basically have $5 million in space to sign two goalies, an entire fourth line, and another two defensemen (preferably so John Scott doesn't see consistent ice-time); you're basically going to be paying minimum salary for all of those positions just to carry 20+ players.
You joined a few days ago and you talk pretty big.
You should have joined earlier so you could not make terrible proposals. The last thing the Oilers need is 7.1M of their cap space for the next 6 years used up on an overpaid #2 defencemen.
Are you serious? The Hawks have 14 roster players at the moment, and are AT THE CAP. Even if you waive Huet you'll basically have $5 million in space to sign two goalies, an entire fourth line, and another two defensemen (preferably so John Scott doesn't see consistent ice-time); you're basically going to be paying minimum salary for all of those positions just to carry 20+ players.
This has been asked and answered with numerous roster projections.
Are you serious? The Hawks have 14 roster players at the moment, and are AT THE CAP. Even if you waive Huet you'll basically have $5 million in space to sign two goalies, an entire fourth line, and another two defensemen (preferably so John Scott doesn't see consistent ice-time); you're basically going to be paying minimum salary for all of those positions just to carry 20+ players.
So what? Other than the starting goalie, all of those spots are the fringe player spots. 5/6 defenseman, 4th line forwards. Who cares if they are minimum salary players? That's fine. Use rookies and cheap guys in those slots like they did before.
Wasn't talking about the Cup win - was talking about the dismantling of the Cup winning team. It's been amazing to watch.
Dismantling of the Cup team?
*frantically checks Google news*
Man, you scared me. I thought we'd lost some core players or something, not the fringe guys we already had.
People want to see the "successful team overpaid and now has to dismantle" story so badly that they are determined to fit what happens into it no matter what.
The cap's only been in existence for 5 years and already we're seeing the devastating effects on a franchise if you mis-manage it. Unreal.
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Originally Posted by TOMapleLaughs
It's becoming quite apparent that Chicago's cap situation is FAR worse than what was previously known. Thanks, Tallon! Or was it Stan's fault? I forget.
Sept. 2011 players should hold out and have that cap removed, the cap situation is screwing most of the teams, I know it ruined trade deadline day... The thing is I'm not sure if smaller markets are gonna be able to compete against the larger ones... With that being said, it doesnt seem to have no middle ground on that issue.
If they want to get rid of campbell they are gonna have to take a lesser ugly contract in return plus thrown in draft picks and/or roster players/prospects. No GM is just going to willingly take this contract without a price, it does make their gaining of draft picks look more like gaining fodder for the campbell trade.
Neither is claiming Luongo will suddenly develop the mental fortitude to advance beyond the second round of the playoffs, but I see it written all the time.
Man, you scared me. I thought we'd lost some core players or something, not the fringe guys we already had.
People want to see the "successful team overpaid and now has to dismantle" story so badly that they are determined to fit what happens into it no matter what.
Naive way of thinking. The core can get you there, the depth is what wins it.
I am not sure the numbers work even if the Hawks pay 6 players (4th liners and bottom pairing D-men) an absurdly low average of $500 k per player. That would still mean at least $3 million for those players.
Niemi probably will command upwards of $2.5-3.0 after an arbitration award.
You add it up and it still exceeds the cap space that Chicago would save after waiving Huet.
Sept. 2011 players should hold out and have that cap removed, the cap situation is screwing most of the teams, I know it ruined trade deadline day... The thing is I'm not sure if smaller markets are gonna be able to compete against the larger ones... With that being said, it doesnt seem to have no middle ground on that issue.
You're joking right?
The players went from a league where 3 teams spent 70M and 27 teams spent 20M to a league where every single team must spend at least 44M and most spend in the mid to high 50s.
Far more money is being spent on player salaries (in relation to league revenue) now than before the lockout. The only thing the players will want to change is the escrow or maybe add a veteran exemption or something to the cap or something.
Trading Campbell will be very, very difficult. And trading Sharp really weakens a team that has already traded away Versteeg, Ladd, Byfuglien and others like Eager and other "role" players.
Campbell has no trave value because of the contract, the Hawks would probably have to give up 2 good prospects ready to play soon or now like Skille and Beach, plus take at least a 2-3 million dollar salary in return.
Sharp has all the trade value, but his salary makes the Hawks only want prospects or picks...and it hurts their top 6 big time.
I am a little surprised in that they matched, since Seabrook is a RFA next year too and will more than likely get close to Keith money too.
I am not sure the numbers work even if the Hawks pay 6 players (4th liners and bottom pairing D-men) an absurdly low average of $500 k per player. That would still mean at least $3 million for those players.
Niemi probably will command upwards of $2.5-3.0 after an arbitration award.
You add it up and it still exceeds the cap space that Chicago would save after waiving Huet.
It's strange how you manage to type lots of words but you are seemingly unable to read them.
