Bruins fan here, Boston has literally no cap to re-sign their RFA's and Colorado has lots of cap space and could probably take on a mil or two. Here's my proposal:
To Colorado
Ference (2.25)
Ryder (4)
5th Round Pick 2011
Bruins fan here, Boston has literally no cap to re-sign their RFA's and Colorado has lots of cap space and could probably take on a mil or two. Here's my proposal:
To Colorado
Ference (2.25)
Ryder (4)
5th Round Pick 2011
To Boston
John Michael Liles (4.425)
Thoughts?
How long are the Ference and Ryder contracts for?
Would you be willing to lower the pick if we send a pick back (i.e. Boston's 3rd and Colorado's 5th)?
[EDIT] What's the story on Ference needing surgery for a hernia???
How long are the Ference and Ryder contracts for?
Would you be willing to lower the pick if we send a pick back (i.e. Boston's 3rd and Colorado's 5th)?
[EDIT] What's the story on Ference needing surgery for a hernia???
This is Ryder's last year and he wont want as much as he is making right now and Ference has 2-3 years left. And the picks I would do. B's 3rd for Avs 5th. Ference had a sports hernia which is when your stomach muscles have a little cap between them and it has to get stiched together. It really only means no lifting for 6 weeks. He should be fine now though because hes down south helping to clean up the BP oil spill
Stewart, Yip, Jones and of course Hejduk all are on the right side and play far better than Ryder right now.
I am one of the few COL fans who still thinks JML is serviceable. I don't want him moved just for an expiring contract and Ference. I don't hate Ference but he is not my cup of tea for COL.
I'd like to see them move JML closer to the deadline when his value will be higher (I hope!)
Not a bad proposal though, one of the better ones I have seen on the boards. If COL had injury issues on RW like they did last year to start this season I'd do it. I think Ryder could still be effective scoring playing with Stastny or Duchene
Stewart, Yip, Jones and of course Hejduk all are on the right side and play far better than Ryder right now.
I am one of the few COL fans who still thinks JML is serviceable. I don't want him moved just for an expiring contract and Ference. I don't hate Ference but he is not my cup of tea for COL.
I'd like to see them move JML closer to the deadline when his value will be higher (I hope!)
Your not alone I still want Liles here(at least for now).
Good proposal but I wouldn't make the trade if I were Sherman.
Bruins fan here, Boston has literally no cap to re-sign their RFA's and Colorado has lots of cap space and could probably take on a mil or two. Here's my proposal:
To Colorado
Ference (2.25)
Ryder (4)
5th Round Pick 2011
To Boston
John Michael Liles (4.425)
Thoughts?
Ference and Ryder are crap. Liles is good, we simply have a lot of PPQB types coming up. I would want much more compensation for taking on Ryder and Ference than a 5th.
The idea is good, we'd just need way more. Like 1st round pick more.
Ference and Ryder are crap. Liles is good, we simply have a lot of PPQB types coming up. I would want much more compensation for taking on Ryder and Ference than a 5th.
The idea is good, we'd just need way more. Like 1st round pick more.
Wow....if you think we're getting a first back for Liles at this point, you're dreaming.
Ryder's contract expires at the end of the year...it's not like an albatross...
I still like Stafford for Liles better than any other deal that's ever been suggested though....This is a somewhat ok proposal except that we need a LW instead of a RW (Ryder).
OMGzzzzzzzzzzz we can have Michael Ryder?!?!?! That would be SOOOOO amazing!!
It's the equivalent of the Avs trying to unload Marek Svatos last year at twice the amount!!
No thanks.
It's kinda funny, ever since he's been in the league, I can't remember 1 season go by without fans from the Habs or Bruins actually want to keep this guy. lol
I'd rather just hang onto liles for the remaining 2 years. Give him that time to see if Sacco can shape him back into the potential the kid has to be a great defensemen like we saw flashes of last year if he can't then trade deadline 2nd year we should have enough puck moving defensemen either ready or on the team we can move him for more youth to continue with the rebuild.
Wow....if you think we're getting a first back for Liles at this point, you're dreaming.
Ryder's contract expires at the end of the year...it's not like an albatross...
I still like Stafford for Liles better than any other deal that's ever been suggested though....This is a somewhat ok proposal except that we need a LW instead of a RW (Ryder).
the first isn't for Liles alone, it's for taking on Ference and Ryder's terrible contracts plus Liles value.
Liles alone is worth about a mid 2nd imo, and the trade boards consensus agreed. Stafford is a fine return too, except for the RW thing.
Stewart, Yip, Jones and of course Hejduk all are on the right side and play far better than Ryder right now.
I am one of the few COL fans who still thinks JML is serviceable. I don't want him moved just for an expiring contract and Ference. I don't hate Ference but he is not my cup of tea for COL.
I'd like to see them move JML closer to the deadline when his value will be higher (I hope!)
Not a bad proposal though, one of the better ones I have seen on the boards. If COL had injury issues on RW like they did last year to start this season I'd do it. I think Ryder could still be effective scoring playing with Stastny or Duchene
Move one to the left wing. Its not a big change. What if the picks were Bostons 3rd for COL 5th?
Move one to the left wing. Its not a big change. What if the picks were Bostons 3rd for COL 5th?
no, ference is an injury prone nightmare the last 4 seasons, and we don't need more undersized defenders. I start thinking about bailing the bruins out at:
Ryder
Ference
Bruins '11 1st
for
Liles
and I'm not even sure then. That's a low 1st in all likelihood and Ference is under contract for 3 more years...not to even mention Ryder's 4m deal. Ryder + Ference have negative value to me.
Bruins fan here, Boston has literally no cap to re-sign their RFA's and Colorado has lots of cap space and could probably take on a mil or two. Here's my proposal:
To Colorado
Ference (2.25)
Ryder (4)
5th Round Pick 2011
To Boston
John Michael Liles (4.425)
Thoughts?
ridiculous trade offer
If you want the Avs to take Ference contract and Ryder's contract you need to change the pick for bos 1rst.
So basically what it comes down to is we trade one kinda-sorta bad contract for two bad contracts. Because neither of those players will actually help us improve from our current situation, and a fifth isn't enough compensation for the downgrade of roster.
I think there's only a handful of us, that want to keep JML.
Count me in that crew.
He's overpaid, but so what? It's not like he's on contract for 6 more years or anything. He'll be up when we have a lot of decisions to make in 2012, and that's fine by me.
He's overpaid, but so what? It's not like he's on contract for 6 more years or anything. He'll be up when we have a lot of decisions to make in 2012, and that's fine by me.
Same. He is basically our only defenseman who can possess and make plays with the puck.
He's overpaid, but so what? It's not like he's on contract for 6 more years or anything. He'll be up when we have a lot of decisions to make in 2012, and that's fine by me.
Me too. Its ridiculous that so many Avs fans want to ship out Liles just because we have a few nice PMD prospects.
Me too. Its ridiculous that so many Avs fans want to ship out Liles just because we have a few nice PMD prospects.
That's not the reason, I see him as being consistent is his inconsistency. Plays well for a while, plays poorly for long periods of time, then picks it up some at the end. I am truly hoping that the change he experienced this past season carries forward, if not he could lose his job mid-season to a more consistent player.
Liles is just crazy inconsistent. At times he can be our best defenseman, easily (although that's not really saying much...), but at times he can be our worst defenseman, easily (which is saying a lot...). He's another guy who, when he puts his mind to it, is stellar. But he doesn't do it near enough. And that's why I personally undervalue him quite a lot and don't really like him much.
