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07-13-2010, 08:40 AM
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Blackhawks Salary Cap Situation

With the Blackhawks matching the offer sheet for Niklas Hjalmarsson and still having to resign Antti Niemi it seems they are going to have to unload a big name to make it under the cap. Who would you want Darcy to go after in a trade?

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the only player really worth going after would be sharp....unless it really came down to a squeeze i wouldnt mind kane!

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the only player really worth going after would be sharp....unless it really came down to a squeeze i wouldnt mind kane!
Their only available players are probably Campbell and Sharp. I bet they would be willing to take less for Campbell to move his horrible contract, but that doesn't mean that I'd want him.

As I said in another thread, I think they can be 10% over the cap until day 1 of the regular season I don't know if there is really a rush to dump Sharp. My best estimate is that they'd be looking for a top prospect and cheap roster player or a combination of a cheap roster player, 1st round pick and mid level prospect for him. As the offseason goes on if they can't get that then their demands will probably come down.

Kane isn't touchable so I'm not even going to consider that one.

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Their only available players are probably Campbell and Sharp. I bet they would be willing to take less for Campbell to move his horrible contract, but that doesn't mean that I'd want him.

As I said in another thread, I think they can be 10% over the cap until day 1 of the regular season I don't know if there is really a rush to dump Sharp. My best estimate is that they'd be looking for a top prospect and cheap roster player or a combination of a cheap roster player, 1st round pick and mid level prospect for him.
They'd have to sweeten it a LOT for Buffalo to take Campbell back at that price, couple good prospects at the very least.

Sharp is intriguing but I doubt very much they're shopping him.

Personally I'd love to get Patrick Kane into a Sabres jersey and I'm sure he would too, but I can't comprehend the package that we'd have to send the other way to make that happen.

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Kane isn't touchable so I'm not even going to consider that one.[/QUOTE]



Nobody in the league is untouchable.

- Summer of 1988, Anything can happen.. and I don't think Kane would object the trade, all of his boys were already traded

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Nobody in the league is untouchable.

- Summer of 1988, Anything can happen.. and I don't think Kane would object the trade, all of his boys were already traded
Just because an owner with cash flow issues moved a franchise player doesn't mean that every franchise player is available to be traded for.

If you think that the Caps would consider trading Ovechkin this summer, well............

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Nobody in the league is untouchable.

- Summer of 1988, Anything can happen.. and I don't think Kane would object the trade, all of his boys were already traded
They aren't going to trade Kane. Not to mention, Darcy isn't willing to give up what it would take to get him.

Close that book and move on.

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Their only available players are probably Campbell and Sharp. I bet they would be willing to take less for Campbell to move his horrible contract, but that doesn't mean that I'd want him.

As I said in another thread, I think they can be 10% over the cap until day 1 of the regular season I don't know if there is really a rush to dump Sharp. My best estimate is that they'd be looking for a top prospect and cheap roster player or a combination of a cheap roster player, 1st round pick and mid level prospect for him. As the offseason goes on if they can't get that then their demands will probably come down.

Kane isn't touchable so I'm not even going to consider that one.
There may not be a rush. But the longer they wait and the closer they get to the deadline to be under the cap. They tougher it will be to get good value for whomever they move.

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There may not be a rush. But the longer they wait and the closer they get to the deadline to be under the cap. They tougher it will be to get good value for whomever they move.
Welcome to options trading, which is why I don't do it.

It's also the reason why Bowman would like to make a deal now and the other GM's want to make one later... all things being equal, which,of course, they never are.

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I think Soupy will end up in Atlanta. The Thrashers have been active trading partners with Chicago, they're under the salary floor, and made a strong bid to sign Campbell as an UFA. I'd look for Huet to be waived and loaned to a European team. That will free up close to $13 million in cap space without having to sacrifice any forwards.

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I think Soupy will end up in Atlanta. The Thrashers have been active trading partners with Chicago, they're under the salary floor, and made a strong bid to sign Campbell as an UFA. I'd look for Huet to be waived and loaned to a European team. That will free up close to $13 million in cap space without having to sacrifice any forwards.
The Islanders make more sense IMHO. Campbell chose Chicago because its closer to home, if he had to choose between the Islanders and the Thrashers, I bet he'd go with the Isles. Imagine Hainsey/Campbell pairing on the blueline....I feel bad for the Thrashers goalies.

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I think Soupy will end up in Atlanta. The Thrashers have been active trading partners with Chicago, they're under the salary floor, and made a strong bid to sign Campbell as an UFA. I'd look for Huet to be waived and loaned to a European team. That will free up close to $13 million in cap space without having to sacrifice any forwards.
The Atlanta front office that went after Campbell isn't around any more.

Although, Duds has been with the Blackhawks before heading to Hotlanta.

Whether that makes him want Campbell more or less is up for debate.


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Only way we are getting Beach is if we eat Campbell. Chicago can use Beach's rookie bonus as overage again if needed, so he gives them some cap flex. Chicago isn't trading any players on ELC, they don't have to.

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I don't want Beach. Jumping a teammate forty pounds lighter in training camp? Gutless.

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I don't want Beach. Jumping a teammate forty pounds lighter in training camp? Gutless.
i want beach... the idea of Beach and Kassian on the team together... completely changes who the Sabres are in the Northeast.

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I think Soupy will end up in Atlanta. The Thrashers have been active trading partners with Chicago, they're under the salary floor, and made a strong bid to sign Campbell as an UFA. I'd look for Huet to be waived and loaned to a European team. That will free up close to $13 million in cap space without having to sacrifice any forwards.
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I'd love to see Darcy make a move for Sharp, but I'm not holding my breath. I think Bowman would want Ennis, but would settle for Brennan, Adam and a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I don't think Darcy is willing to give up either of those packages.

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I'd love to see Darcy make a move for Sharp, but I'm not holding my breath. I think Bowman would want Ennis, but would settle for Brennan, Adam and a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I don't think Darcy is willing to give up either of those packages.
Ennis, Butler
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that's a deal I'd do.

... and just straight look past this year, to drool about 11-12

Beach-Roy-Vanek
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that's a deal I'd do.

... and just straight look past this year, to drool about 11-12

Beach-Roy-Vanek
Gerbe-Sharp-Pominville
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Those two together is easily the most shocking part of your post

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Those two together is easily the most shocking part of your post
I wanted Beach SOOOOO badly in his draft year... now of course im damn glad we got Myers instead... but the idea of turning Ennis + into solving our center problem, and adding Beach to the mix with Kassian is sooooo enticing.

Ennis is our best prospect. and there are almost no deals i could imagine trading him in... but this one works. Now and later.

this year

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Their only available players are probably Campbell and Sharp. I bet they would be willing to take less for Campbell to move his horrible contract, but that doesn't mean that I'd want him.
They would flat-out give away Campbell if they could. In fact, they would possibly give something up in order to give him away. His contract is killing that team. Other people argue Hossa and that may well be true, but Campbell's contract is a lot worse as he's not nearly as good a player. They have talent all over that blueline and could deal with the loss of Campbell no problem.

Something tells me if they thought they could have moved Campbell they damn well would have well before biting the bullet and moving Buff.

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Forgot to mention Huet as Buffaloed has. They simply can't afford to keep him around. Terrible contract for a team in their situation.

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