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07-15-2010, 03:09 PM
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I think I can answer that part. Helenius will be in Europe the whole season so he is of no use to the Lightning or Admirals for the 2010-2011 season. Zane Kalemba could be. He signed an amateur tryout contract with Norfolk and stayed with them for the month of March, so Jim Johnson and the Norfolk staff know who he is/what he can do and probably decided to give him an invite to this. Kalemba came in when Janus got injured and backed up Tokarski. Norfolk is going to need a 3rd goalie in case Janus or Tokarski get hurt, or one of them is recalled to Tampa. Yzerman said he was looking into adding an ECHL affiliation, so that could be a potential spot for Kalemba to try and win.
This plus surely his European team wouldnt want to risk an injury in a pointless training camp (as there is zero chance he comes back this season) although I do hold out hope for the future for Riku. As he could still become a very good goalie, I mean he is what 22? Most goalies arent in the NHL at all at that age, let alone full time. Price/Fleury etc etc are spoiling us, a lot of goalies develop much later, I mean before Smiths concussions he looked like an absolute lock for starter and that was him breaking into the NHL late 20s?

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I think Gagne would be a great fit in TB.

And to those who are saying they are going to get 50 games out of Gagne.... seriously?

He has a bad injury year last year but still came back in the playoffs and kicked some serious ass in Boston. Year before, he had 34 goals and +21. Plus he comes off the books next year. Do you think your team has what it takes to make the playoffs this season? I certainly do.

Dude is a great winger to have and I am sorely going to miss him. Smith for Gagne.
If its Smith for Gagne hell yes i'm in.

I'll take that everyday without issue. We can find a backup/filler for a second goaltender, someone wants a job bad enough.

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Haha Smith for Gagne. I would do that every day and twice on Sunday.

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smith for gane is awsome becuase ellis is just as good or better and there are still some good FA goalies on the market..........doubt that just Smith gets it done but if PHI is interested we could build around it

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EE just told me that there is truth to the rumour that we have interest but still has not figured out what we can(or will) give up for 1 year(hopefully more if we get him) of Gagne

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EE just told me that there is truth to the rumour that we have interest but still has not figured out what we can(or will) give up for 1 year(hopefully more if we get him) of Gagne
I doubt Stevie Y. will stick around long in a serious bidding war.

Even so, we have to remember that the rumored interest on the Lightning's part has to be mutual since Simon Gagne wields some leverage with his no-trade clause. Still, I highly doubt Gagne would have an issue coming to Tampa. I am just far from sure Yzerman will offer the most desirable package in the eyes of Flyers management.

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07-16-2010, 03:18 AM
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EE just told me that there is truth to the rumour that we have interest but still has not figured out what we can(or will) give up for 1 year(hopefully more if we get him) of Gagne
Is this something official now or still just "common sense" that we're interested, because as far as I know no one within the organization has said so publicly yet?

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EE just told me that there is truth to the rumour that we have interest but still has not figured out what we can(or will) give up for 1 year(hopefully more if we get him) of Gagne
With Philly up against the cap, I would think it would not be for much. I would be a salary dump on Philly's part.

I could see some prospects and picks going to Philly. At the same time, does the Lightning really want to take on more salary at this point?

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Is this something official now or still just "common sense" that we're interested, because as far as I know no one within the organization has said so publicly yet?
Look on EE's twitter...there is offcial interest

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Why not just wait until this guy finds his way on waivers if we want him that bad?

Otherwise I'm with JJ on finding a cheaper more practical solution (if we're going by Yzerman's patience motto)

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Why not just wait until this guy finds his way on waivers if we want him that bad?

Otherwise I'm with JJ on finding a cheaper more practical solution (if we're going by Yzerman's patience motto)
Because there's no way he gets past Edmonton or Toronto.

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Look on EE's twitter...there is offcial interest
Aight! Thanks for asking!

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With Philly up against the cap, I would think it would not be for much. I would be a salary dump on Philly's part.

I could see some prospects and picks going to Philly. At the same time, does the Lightning really want to take on more salary at this point?
If its someone like Mihalik, or Smith going the other way, yes - if its Smith we're only picking up like 2.5 in salary and have one less year of Mikeys salary (money basically becomes a wash but a year sooner) assuming his doesn't return to form, although I hope he does.

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Simon Gagne, he of the no-trade clause and the $5.25 million contract has been given permission to talk to clubs who might be interested in his services.

The Philadelphia Flyers have decided to eject the somewhat injury-prone left winger in hopes of squeaking under the league salary cap.

While the Leafs, as reported on Thursday, certainly have interest in Gagne, the price along with all the other intangibles (Would he want to play in Toronto? Does Toronto have what it takes to get him, etc.?) may be a problem. Followers of the Tampa Bay Lightning expect general manager Steve Yzerman to pursue Gagne aggressively.
From the trade boards.

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07-16-2010, 02:40 PM
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If Kovalchuk not sign in Los Angeles, Gagne will be traded to Kings, I guess. He wants to team which has chance to win Stanley Cup.

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07-16-2010, 03:11 PM
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Remember the last time we pursued a French-Canadian guy to play with Marty and Vinny?

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07-16-2010, 05:00 PM
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Remember the last time we pursued a French-Canadian guy to play with Marty and Vinny?
Yeah, but Gagne isn't emo.

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I almost don't wanna trade Smith I think somehow he can rebound. Almost.

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I know Smith had concussion problems that probably attributed to his poor start last year, but considering he still played, would they be considered something to really be concerned about, especially after an off-season to fully heal/recover?

I think a deal would be centered around Gagne + Boucher for Smith + Harju

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07-17-2010, 12:10 AM
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Don't want Boucher.

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Don't want Boucher.
Too bad. He's already the coach.

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Well played.

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Too bad. He's already the coach.
I hate you so much right now.

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07-17-2010, 10:53 AM
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Ok, it seems so Kovy will soon be King and it comes to this, that Gagne would be traded to Tampa

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Don't want Boucher.
How would Gagne for Smith and Harju work? They're other ways to get rid of Boucher.

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