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07-15-2010, 03:47 PM
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-For the Leafs to trade Kaberle, the Devils would have to satisfy the need for an upgrade at centre or top line LW. This means that one of Zajac, Parise, or Elias would have to be in the deal. If the Devils are not prepared to do that, then there's no point in discussing trade options.
That's a joke right?

You think you're going to get a locked up first liner player for 1 year of Kaberle?

I really hope he's traded, just so you can see how amazingly far off your value is. Again, we didn't even pay half that much for Kovalchuk. And you think Kaberle is worth that?

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07-15-2010, 03:49 PM
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It just does not benefit the leafs what so ever

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07-15-2010, 03:53 PM
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That's a joke right?

You think you're going to get a locked up first liner player for 1 year of Kaberle?

I really hope he's traded, just so you can see how amazingly far off your value is. Again, we didn't even pay half that much for Kovalchuk. And you think Kaberle is worth that?
Not at all. I just don't think that Burke will trade him for anything less than that. It wouldn't make any sense to do so.

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07-15-2010, 04:02 PM
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I don't know why the OP feels the need to go so big as the Devils don't need Grabs (wHO i DON'T LIKE ) and the Leafs would be dumb to take Rolston. Taking Rolston just ties your hands cap wise for the remainder of his contract. It may appear to help at center right now but I'd just rather keep Grabs instead of tying my hands.
The devils could use Kabs for sure and for all we know there is a tentative deal in place depending on the outcome of you know who. The return has been beaten to death and while there is no chance at the bigger names I'd be happy with something surrounding Langenbrunner and Tedenby. I think the ship has sailed with Clarkson when he signed. Course there may be other offers to Burke and he'll take what he feels best.

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07-15-2010, 04:04 PM
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jfried you never cease to amaze me.

the leafs are NOT going to get a player of Parise, Elias, or Zajac's quality. why do you keep on thinking they will?

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07-15-2010, 04:05 PM
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Why people think that Kovalchuk and Kaberle are related is beyond me.... one is a defenceman... one is a forward. The team who actually needs Kaberle (NJ) has no space for either player; and the team that really needs Kovalchuk (Los Angeles) has no need for Kaberle.

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jfried you never cease to amaze me.

the leafs are NOT going to get a player of Parise, Elias, or Zajac's quality. why do you keep on thinking they will?
Colin Whites Eye you never cease to amaze me.

the devils are NOT going to get a player of Kaberle's calibre. why do you keep on thinking they will?

p.s. I've never said that the Leafs will get one of those players for Kaberle; only that they'd have to in order for him to be traded.

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07-15-2010, 04:06 PM
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Why do you guys even listen to Jfried? He was blocked a long time ago for suggesting Zajac would not be enough for Kaberle. Utter lunacy.

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07-15-2010, 04:18 PM
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Why do you guys even listen to Jfried? He was blocked a long time ago for suggesting Zajac would not be enough for Kaberle. Utter lunacy.
When the Leafs didn't have Versteeg + Armstrong... Kaberle for Zajac is just a trade that the Leafs couldn't make...they needed help on teh wing much more desparately than at centre.

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07-15-2010, 04:38 PM
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When the Leafs didn't have Versteeg + Armstrong... Kaberle for Zajac is just a trade that the Leafs couldn't make...they needed help on teh wing much more desparately than at centre.
Actually Brian Burke said that the Leafs are still more interested in wingers.

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07-15-2010, 04:46 PM
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Why people think that Kovalchuk and Kaberle are related is beyond me.... one is a defenceman... one is a forward. The team who actually needs Kaberle (NJ) has no space for either player; and the team that really needs Kovalchuk (Los Angeles) has no need for Kaberle.
We have space for Kaberle as long as a roster player making over $600K is going the other way.

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07-15-2010, 04:50 PM
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Actually Brian Burke said that the Leafs are still more interested in wingers.
That he is, but the desparation for a winger is obviously not as great as before the Versteeg/Armstrong trades. Zajac for Kaberle is a trade that the Leafs should problably make. It wasn't when Kulemin & Kessel were their only wingers.

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07-15-2010, 05:28 PM
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Ya...I would have to say that this trade is a fail. Not that the value isn't about even but more that it seems to be more of a trade the Toronto would make if taking a run at the cup. Cant see Burke trading to add veterans. Esp ones with BIG contracts. Pretty sure I've heard on numerous occasions if he trades Kabs it will be for a "YOUNG" upgrade to the forwards group.....Just saying..

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07-15-2010, 05:42 PM
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Do we really need the repeats of the same thread over and over???

-Leafs would like Langenbrunner, not willing to trade Kaberle where he is the centrepiece, or place a ton of value on him because he's a stop-gap solution.

-Rolston is on one of the worst contracts in teh NHL (simply because he can retire and it still counts). Toronto wouldn't take him even if it came with a draft pick for nothing.

-The Leafs aren't interested in adding prospects at the cost of NHL players.

-Toronto jsut signed Colby Armstrong. While Clarkson is better (and under a better contract), the reality is that they're not going to move a UFA they signed 2 weeks ago and they don't need both.

-For the Leafs to trade Kaberle, the Devils would have to satisfy the need for an upgrade at centre or top line LW. This means that one of Zajac, Parise, or Elias would have to be in the deal. If the Devils are not prepared to do that, then there's no point in discussing trade options.

edit: It's truly amazing to see how delusional some Leafs fans have become.... just in hte obsession of appeasing Patrik Elias' mentioning that he'd like Kaberle on the Devils.

the devils would have to include brodeur in a kabs/parise deal

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07-15-2010, 06:07 PM
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So Leaf fans think that we will give almost as much as we did for 1 year for Kovalchuck , yea and were the ones dreaming

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07-15-2010, 06:13 PM
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As most of you can remember, I tried a similar deal yesterday and got flamed pretty badly by most Leaf fans.
A majority of the NJ fans seemed to like me
Anyway, I'm gonna try and give it another shot.


Jamie Langenbrunner ($2.8M)
Alexander Vasyunov ($850K) or Adam Henrique($845K)
Brian Rolston ($5.1M)
4th round pick

Total: $8.8M


Thomas Kaberle ($4.2M) singed to an extension
Mikhail Stefanovich ($775 K)
Grabovski($2.9M)


Total: $7.8M

Devils get a puck mover and save $1M. Get rid of Rolston's contract

Toroto adds some veteran presence and scoring upfront. Also gets a good prospect

I tried
Why would you even try the first time? I just don't get why people are so persistent in making the perfect proposal? If everyone thought your proposal was great what difference would it make?

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07-15-2010, 06:14 PM
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So Leaf fans think that we will give almost as much as we did for 3monthsfor Kovalchuck , yea and were the ones dreaming
Corrected.

We don't want what the Devils gave up for Kovalchuk, we want a deal that's going to improve our team. Whether you view that as more or less than what you gave up for 3 months of Kovalchuk.... doesn't really matter.

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07-15-2010, 08:16 PM
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I would trade Clarkson for Kaberle in a heart beat. A top pairing d-man who can help the PP trumps a third line winger any day.

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07-15-2010, 08:19 PM
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I suppose NJ fans can dream.
Elias too.

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07-15-2010, 09:21 PM
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The Devils don't need Grabovski. Odd to see him in there.
leafs don't need Rolston. Odd to see him in there.

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New Jersey wins that hands down. No thank you.

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07-15-2010, 09:27 PM
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leafs don't need Rolston. Odd to see him in there.
Agreed...

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I'd do it. Leaf fans probably wont, they act like we have to bring Langenbrunner and Rolston out in a wheelchair to the ice.
Nah, it's having to walk them to the Chris Chelios retirement home after thats hard.

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Toronto says no and doesn't want to trade Kaberle for New Jersey's garbage.

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07-15-2010, 09:52 PM
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honestly, there is nothing on new jersey that can help us now that i want, personally.

That we can realistically obtain....


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07-15-2010, 10:03 PM
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NJ can definitely use Kaberle but I just don't see a fit, in terms of a viable return, from our standpoint. Pretty much sums it up I think.

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