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Who is the greatest fighter in MMA? #4

View Poll Results: Who is the 4th greatest fighter in MMA history?
Mirko Cro Cop 2 4.55%
Kazushi Sakuraba 1 2.27%
Ken Shamrock 0 0%
Frank Shamrock 0 0%
Bas Rutten 8 18.18%
Rampage Jackson 0 0%
Wanderlei Silva 6 13.64%
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 4 9.09%
Georges St-Pierre 9 20.45%
BJ Penn 2 4.55%
Anderson Silva 8 18.18%
Randy Couture 2 4.55%
Chuck Liddell 1 2.27%
Rickson Gracie 0 0%
Shogun Rua 1 2.27%
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07-16-2010, 12:57 AM
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Who is the greatest fighter in MMA? #4

I need you guys to suggest who you want to see added to the poll. I decided to throw in Rampage this time

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2. Royce Gracie



3. Matt Hughes


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You oddly enough ask who is the best fighter and you ask who is the fourth best fighter.

Carry on.


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Went with Bas because its clear Rickson's never getting on there.

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I dont get

Are you guys serious about Minowaman? We must have different definitions of 'greatest'

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Voted for Wand.

I'd be fine with any of the following fighters being added to the poll:
- Pat Miletich
- Pedro Rizzo
- Renzo Gracie
- Tito Ortiz
- Vitor Belfort
- Dan Henderson
- Josh Barnett
- Marco Ruas
- Igor Vovchancyn

None of them really stand above the rest in my eyes so any of them is fine with me. Tito likely had the most dominant run but his competition maybe wasn't the toughest.

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I dont get

Are you guys serious about Minowaman? We must have different definitions of 'greatest'
Haha, I'm just crabby about the fact that Matt Hughes got in so early.

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Haha, I'm just crabby about the fact that Matt Hughes got in so early.
People seem to be voting with who was the best at their time or who has/had the best record, not who actually is the best fighter in history. I'm voting for who I think is the best PvP in their prime. Gracie with his BJJ wouldn't win against a lot of the more current and much more complete fighters on the list. And we already saw a prime Hughes defeated by a prime GSP quite easily.

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Bas was the man pre-UFC. So I'm backing him now.

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Went with Bas because its clear Rickson's never getting on there.
Out of curiosity, what's so great about Rickson?

He has 11 fights, 8 against sub .500 fighters, one against a .500 fighter and his two wins over .500+ fighters include one fighter who was blind in one eye and another who was well past his prime.

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Out of curiosity, what's so great about Rickson?
Nothing. He shouldn't be on a top 50 best mixed martial artist list, Rickson lives in a fantasy world.

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Nothing. He shouldn't be on a top 50 best mixed martial artist list, Rickson lives in a fantasy world.
But but but he's 400 and 0!!

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It's embarrassing that Royce Gracie got the nod for the #2 greatest fighter of all time, and slightly less embarrassing that Hughes is #3. Being the greatest and being a pioneer are two completely separate things.

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It's embarrassing that Royce Gracie got the nod for the #2 greatest fighter of all time, and slightly less embarrassing that Hughes is #3. Being the greatest and being a pioneer are two completely separate things.
Are they? Without the foundation laid by past greats, todays greats would be much less.

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People seem to be voting with who was the best at their time or who has/had the best record, not who actually is the best fighter in history. I'm voting for who I think is the best PvP in their prime. Gracie with his BJJ wouldn't win against a lot of the more current and much more complete fighters on the list. And we already saw a prime Hughes defeated by a prime GSP quite easily.
That's how you do ANY greatest of all time list, though.

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Are they? Without the foundation laid by past greats, todays greats would be much less.
No kidding, that's what being a pioneer is, laying the foundation for others. It doesn't mean you're the greatest though. Royce Gracie shouldn't even make a top 50 of best fighters. He had inferior standup and would have a tough time getting many of today's fighters to the mat. Mixed Martial Artists are getting better by the year as better and younger athletes get into the sport. The guys fighting today would simply dominate Gracie.

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Royce Gracie shouldn't even make a top 50 of best fighters. He had inferior standup and would have a tough time getting many of today's fighters to the mat. Mixed Martial Artists are getting better by the year as better and younger athletes get into the sport. The guys fighting today would simply dominate Gracie.
Maybe, but that's like saying if we bring Eddie Shore in the NHL today he would be the top 3 in the league based on the same style he played back in his days, which is not true at all.

Royce at the time was the best fighter, sure, the competition was not as good as today but you're judged based on your generation and prime, and during his generation and prime no one came close to him.

Hughes at #3 does sort of puzzles me too, but I think it's not that bad, if anything I would say he's top-5 at this point, he had a pretty long winning streak and is probably the best welterweight of all-time at this point (With GSP closing in to take over).

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If Matt Hughes is #3 then #4 is GSP.

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2. Fedora Emilio

3. Kimbo Slice

4. The Mexicutioner

5. GSP! GSP! GSP! GSP!

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Maybe, but that's like saying if we bring Eddie Shore in the NHL today he would be the top 3 in the league based on the same style he played back in his days, which is not true at all.

Royce at the time was the best fighter, sure, the competition was not as good as today but you're judged based on your generation and prime, and during his generation and prime no one came close to him.

Hughes at #3 does sort of puzzles me too, but I think it's not that bad, if anything I would say he's top-5 at this point, he had a pretty long winning streak and is probably the best welterweight of all-time at this point (With GSP closing in to take over).
A generation last 20 years. He wasn't nearly the best of the fighters from his generation, not even close. Royce is younger than Randy Couture and 3 yrs older than Chuck Liddell, both have had much more impressive careers. Gracie, himself, decided to leave the sport when the competition got better, and then came back and didn't impress. His prime lasted 2 years when the competition was abysmal due to the sport being so new.

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If Matt Hughes is #3 then #4 is GSP.
This whole concept has totally gone to hell.

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GSP above Big Nog, Sakuraba, Frank Shamrock, Chuck and Wanderlei? I guess I overestimated the knowledge of the HFBoards MMA forum when it comes to the history of the sport. I don't even know if I should bother to continue doing these. I wouldn't argue with Cro Cop, Bas, Randy or Shogun being above GSP either.

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