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07-17-2010, 09:34 PM
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Washington-Vancouver(Alex Semin)

To Vancouver: F Alexander Semin(1 year left on deal)
2nd round pick '11


To Washington: F Cody Hodgson

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07-17-2010, 09:35 PM
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Vancouver has almost no cap space and needs to move Bieksa by the end of the offseason, the team can't take on 6M in salary.

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Washington would say no if it was straight up Semin vs Hodgson, why in the world would they add a 2nd round pick?

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Im not a fan from either team but washington would say hell no and im not sure about vancouver they would likepy say yes if they could get enough cap space.

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No way! Go away. Van has absolutely ZERO interest in Semin.

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To Vancouver: F Alexander Semin(1 year left on deal)
2nd round pick '11


To Washington: F Cody Hodgson
No capspace and no need for any other players except perhaps a 4th line center. Besides the Canucks are very high on Cody Hodgson and are not going to trade him.

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07-17-2010, 11:39 PM
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No way from the WAS POV.

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No way! Go away. Van has absolutely ZERO interest in Semin.


Take off eh

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This wasn't thought out very well. For starters, Vancouver is right up against the cap without a full roster yet. They need to deal salary before the season starts. How could they afford to add a $6 million player?

Secondly, Vancouver has one of the best top-6's in the league. Why would they trade their top prospect to improve an area of strength?

Third, in terms of value, Washington really gets bent over here. For Semin and a 2nd they'll get a better return than a single prospect.

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take out caps 2nd and add bieska

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1. Vancouver doesn't need Semin
2. Washington doesn't need Hodgson
3. Washington needs a shutdown defenseman
4. Why does Washington throw in a pick? I mean honestly.

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07-18-2010, 12:25 AM
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Hodgson already has backs problems,

stay away.

nhl all star + a pick for a good prospect


not so much

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07-18-2010, 12:26 AM
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both sides say no.

Next time you want to propose trades, look for both teams legitimate needs and capabilities (cap space) and then try to make something work.

Instead of being stupid.

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Agreed with the Canucks saying no, for all the reason's already mentioned.

Honestly I can't wait to watch Hodgson's career with the Canucks, I'd say a steep learning curve, starting slow, but as time goes on and as he works on himself physically/mentally he should be a great center for years to come.

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07-18-2010, 01:08 AM
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both sides say no.

Next time you want to propose trades, look for both teams legitimate needs and capabilities (cap space) and then try to make something work.

Instead of being stupid.
My objection has nothing to do with cap space. Don't even want Semin if WAS gifted him to us. Semin is not the kind of player you win in the playoffs with.

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07-18-2010, 01:46 AM
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No thanks. The Canucks already have 4 guys making $5mil+ and I think Hodgson will be great bang for the buck at the end of ELC. That's key for the Canucks considering they're clearly going for it all right now with the core signed long term.

Oh yeah, we also have no cap space. Maybe this deal could work if Bieksa and more salary (Samuelsson/Ehrhoff?) was thrown in. If so, it just wouldn't be worth it for the Nucks.

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My objection has nothing to do with cap space. Don't even want Semin if WAS gifted him to us. Semin is not the kind of player you win in the playoffs with.
Thinnest. Argument. Ever.

Could you tell me Semin's playoff stats in 2009, please?

He gets a bad reputation for two reasons: A) He is a Russian and B) He isn't great defensively.

The first point is not a legitimate concern. The second point is something to be weary of, but as long as you dont put an enormous amount of responsibilities on him, he will be a contributor. Danny Briere is brutal defensively, but he IS a player you win a Cup with as long as you dont expect him to be good defensively.

Semin had no goals to show for in the 2010 playoffs, but let me tell you, it was not for a lack of effort. I know Russians have the reputation of being chokers, and the evidence is there, but not this Russian. Semin is a good player and if he is "gifted" to you (provided you have the room), you take him every single time.

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07-18-2010, 02:13 AM
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Congratulations. You've just created a proposal that neither team likes.

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If this were proposed before July 1st with the big Dmen still available and the Caps don't include the 2nd rounder, then the caps say yes.

However, the 2nd rounder seems to be pulled out of the OP's ass for some reason. Semin and a 2nd rounder for a prospect who has yet to play an NHL game and already has major injury concerns makes this proposal one of the worst I've seen. Awesome fail.

Caps say Kessler for Semin, although theres no way in hell Van ever says yes.

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No way! Go away. Van has absolutely ZERO interest in Semin.
Except for the Sedins....

...Never gets old.

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07-18-2010, 02:46 AM
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Semin might have more value than Hodgson (and if you think otherwise right now, maybe its time to play NHL 10 lol) but the 'nucks are not interested. There's no way we can fit in 6m without moving 2 Dmans (1 more than just Bieksa) AND Raymond. Basically it would be the dumbest move in history as we blow up the core to go for it but don't realistic have a better team than not blowing up the core. Not to mention we would be left with a rebuild next year after blowing up our core (unless the other D we move is Salo).

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07-18-2010, 03:26 AM
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Canucks keep their best prospect in years and 6 million dollars in cap space.

Capitals keep the player who has much higher value.

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Washington would say no if it was straight up Semin vs Hodgson, why in the world would they add a 2nd round pick?
Was thinking the exact same thing!

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