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07-19-2010, 12:18 AM
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Nashville and Ottawa

To Nashville - Chris Campoli, 4th round pick

To Ottawa - JP Dumont, and Jerred Smithson


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07-19-2010, 12:30 AM
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Hmm...I'm sure it would split Ottawa fans, but I'd be open to moving Campoli. We have a lot of youth coming through on the back end and not enough money left to sign Campoli, Regin and Foligno.

But for that same reason, I'd say this deal can't work. Ottawa doesn't have the cap-space to take in Dumont.

I think Murray would move Campoli (or at least I would if I was Murray) - but the package coming back would have to be different. Picks/prospects?

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Hmm...I'm sure it would split Ottawa fans, but I'd be open to moving Campoli. We have a lot of youth coming through on the back end and not enough money left to sign Campoli, Regin and Foligno.

But for that same reason, I'd say this deal can't work. Ottawa doesn't have the cap-space to take in Dumont.

I think Murray would move Campoli (or at least I would if I was Murray) - but the package coming back would have to be different. Picks/prospects?
Thats the reason I suggested Campoli could be dealt. But you do have a good point about Dumont and his salary and his NTC, lol.

What would the sens want for Campoli from Preds then??

CO Roussel, and a 2nd round pick??

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07-19-2010, 12:41 AM
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For me, where Ottawa is particularly weak right now, is in forward prospects. Except for Petersson and Silfsberg(sp?), the rest are bottom-6 energy guys.

I don't know the Nashville system well at all - but are guys like Budish in play? Or too high profile in the organization?

Hahah...in summary, yeah, I think prospects/picks would work, but I think Ottawa fans would feel better with a forward prospect coming back.

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Thats the reason I suggested Campoli could be dealt. But you do have a good point about Dumont and his salary and his NTC, lol.

What would the sens want for Campoli from Preds then??

CO Roussel, and a 2nd round pick??
Nah, we have too many right handed d-men.... how about Zach Budish instead?

Sorry if that seems entirely unreasonable, I haven't seen him at all but going by hf rankings

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the standard answer from most ottawa fans is:

ottawa needs top end forward prospects.
nashville needs top end forwards.
no deal can be found.


i think ottawa has another glaring hole though, and we've had it for a while. We need good dmen to play in the AHL. Right now we have a few career ahlers and patrick wiercioch. It would be great if we could get someone with a few years of waiver exemption, who could take on a major role in the AHL and still be called up if we have injuries. That negates the loss of campoli because he would be a 5-6 at most anyways.

So, nashville fans, who do you have that can fit the bill? Waiver exemption for at least one year, and hopefully two, is a must.

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Ick, I wouldn't want Campoli for Smithson by himself let alone throw in Dumont.

Campoli would be a downgrade from Parent/Franson and be a 7th dman for losing one of our highest scoring forwards and a good penalty killer.

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To Nashville - Chris Campoli, 4th round pick

To Ottawa - JP Dumont, and Jerred Smithson
...geez, hon, what's with all the Dumont hate?

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We have a lot of youth coming through on the back end and not enough money left to sign Campoli, Regin and Foligno.
Ummm, what? They made $2.09M last year, did little to earn big raises and we have $4.5M to $5.0M with 18 or 19 players signed. Ballpark, they'll be signed for $3.5M. We can incorporate that easily.

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Thats the reason I suggested Campoli could be dealt. But you do have a good point about Dumont and his salary and his NTC, lol.

What would the sens want for Campoli from Preds then??

CO Roussel, and a 2nd round pick??


umm no.. he would be our 7th D man.. we have no need for him..
that alone trading anything good for him..

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07-19-2010, 09:12 AM
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At 4 mil, I'll pass and make room for Savard instead, even though he's younger and his contract is shorter. I think Savard makes his linemates better, not sure the same can be said of Dumont.

Either way, Ottawa doesn't have the cap room to take on such a contract unless they unload Kelly and a young Dman (Lee/Campoli).

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...geez, hon, what's with all the Dumont hate?
I was going to say the same thing. Go back and watch the playoffs, he didn't play all that poorly. The guy has one down year and people are ready to get rid of him. If he rounds back into the form we're used to he'll hit around 65 points and last time I checked, we didn't have anyone even break 60 points last year, let alone 55. When you're a team that scores by committee, losing one of the committee members is not the best way to improve the team, especially when we have the D prospects in the system to be as good as the guy we'd be trading for.

There are also veteran D-men out there that we can acquire for nothing in free agency so why give up assets when you don't have to? And if we are going to give up an asset in Dumont, I'd expect a better return than Campoli.

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I was going to say the same thing. Go back and watch the playoffs, he didn't play all that poorly. The guy has one down year and people are ready to get rid of him. If he rounds back into the form we're used to he'll hit around 65 points and last time I checked, we didn't have anyone even break 60 points last year, let alone 55. When you're a team that scores by committee, losing one of the committee members is not the best way to improve the team, especially when we have the D prospects in the system to be as good as the guy we'd be trading for.

There are also veteran D-men out there that we can acquire for nothing in free agency so why give up assets when you don't have to? And if we are going to give up an asset in Dumont, I'd expect a better return than Campoli.
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I'd love to do this deal, but we simply don't have the cap space. Always wanted JP here, Campoli showed real signs of breaking through last year, but is now usurped by Gonchar.

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I don't see it. Smithson yeah, but anyone is going on the Preds I see it as Sullivan. He's on the last year of his contract and I just don't see Nashville signing him for another year.

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Sorry, we definitely dont have the cap for him + we still have 3 roster spot to fill(using bonuses = 57.7M) unless you guys want Kelly (or Kovalev ) back in return with Campoli, no chance in hell that deal is gonna happen

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I don't see it. Smithson yeah, but anyone is going on the Preds I see it as Sullivan. He's on the last year of his contract and I just don't see Nashville signing him for another year.
Geez, I'd love to have Sullivan too.

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Id do it, but probably not enough cap space

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Ummm, what? They made $2.09M last year, did little to earn big raises and we have $4.5M to $5.0M with 18 or 19 players signed. Ballpark, they'll be signed for $3.5M. We can incorporate that easily.
You don't think Regin did anything last year?

Capgeek says we have just over 3 million left.

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How would Campoli be the preds 7th defenseman?? lol

Ottawa fans were on this board a little while back saying that Campoli was playing very well towards the end of the season last year and still has alot of potential.

I would think he would be on our #2 pairing.

I think he has more skill than Parent, Sulzer, Bouillon, and any other non NHL experienced defensemen we have in the system.

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You don't think Regin did anything last year?
Foligno got 9 goals, 26 pts in 61 games, of which, many was during the first half of the year... Regin had 13 goals, 29 pts in 75 games... Regin was impressive in the latter part of the season and during the playoffs.

Both had similar production, the difference being that one was hot during the first half and the other during the second half. That does not change their overall value.

It's like the stock market, only matters the day you want to sell or buy.

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How would Campoli be the preds 7th defenseman?? lol

Ottawa fans were on this board a little while back saying that Campoli was playing very well towards the end of the season last year and still has alot of potential.

I would think he would be on our #2 pairing.

I think he has more skill than Parent, Sulzer, Bouillon, and any other non NHL experienced defensemen we have in the system.
I'd trade Campoli for Bouillon... always liked him... plays tough for his small size, unlike Campoli.

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Capgeek says we have just over 3 million left.
Capgeek says that Cowen and Butler have made the team when they haven't. That's $2.2M they're off by right there.

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You don't think Regin did anything last year?
He got hot for 2 or 3 weeks. It's makes his short term potential much more interesting, but it's not worth much money in the scheme of things.

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To Nashville - Chris Campoli, 4th round pick

To Ottawa - JP Dumont, and Jerred Smithson
Hmm would love to, but Dumont is making 4M and Ottawa would be taking on too much salary here.

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