17 years is the craziest thing ever. I know its a cap circumvention contract with probably 6 1 million years tacked on at the end but seriously this system has turned into a complete joke.
I completely agree
he will retire at 37 before the 1 million per seasons start.
I hope this gets fixed in the next CBA
No front or back loading contracts allowed
I don't know who the Devils would move, it seems like Rolston's name stands out. But others have suggested Langenbrunner as a candidate too.
Langenbrunner is a guy I'd be interested in for the Habs. He brings some grit and skill to fit in our Top-6. And his salary is low enough that we might just barely be able to figure out a way to shoe-horn him in.
who would we give up for Langenbrunner. I personally don't think he will be traded as he is a cap friendly contract and others could be moved to create cap space.
Also, considering want Ladd, Byfuglien etc got, I'm pretty sure it will pretty expensive for langenbrunner, especially since I expect a guy like Burke to go hard for Langenbrunner.
The price might be too steep for a player with 1 year left on his contract.
He's definatley a player I want, I doubt he will be traded(though I don't mind being proven wrong), but at what cost?
If it is for 17 years it's really obvious it's to cheat the CBA system... And it's going to be one of those front loaded deals where Kovy make less than 1M$ in his last 7-8 years so a buyout will cost close to nothing.
All Contracts should be : Amount of $ / number of years. That's it that's all. And no hidding cap money in the AHL.
Kovalchuk just threw his prime years away on a sinking ship, terrible choice by him. Should've taken less cash to play for a rising contender in the west, not a fading one in the east.
We've been saying this about the Devils ever since Stevens retired... yet they do good every.single.season
Not the worst place for the Habs for him to land in the short term. The Devils aren't the Habs' direct competition (the Habs are aiming for the 8 slot, the Devils should easily qualify), the Habs only face the Devils 4 times and were a terrible matchup to begin with, and the Rangers, who *are* in competition with the Habs, now have to face him 6 times a season.
100 million for 17 years is blatant cap abuse, but hey -- trust Lou to push the mere loophole-using of other team beyond the impossible. In the short term it's a cap hit of the order of 5.75 million -- a bargain, but not THAT much of one, because Kovy is pretty unidimensional and is not a player that pushes the puck towards the offensive zone. That said the Devils are loaded with players that do push the puck the right way, and have an excellent system to exploit their talents; Kovalchuk may very well benefit from that.
who would we give up for Langenbrunner. I personally don't think he will be traded as he is a cap friendly contract and others could be moved to create cap space.
Also, considering want Ladd, Byfuglien etc got, I'm pretty sure it will pretty expensive for langenbrunner, especially since I expect a guy like Burke to go hard for Langenbrunner.
The price might be too steep for a player with 1 year left on his contract.
He's definatley a player I want, I doubt he will be traded(though I don't mind being proven wrong), but at what cost?
Presumably NJ isn't getting anybody back, with no cap space? They have young players to slide in for any cap casualties already. Pick or prospect?
Anyway, the Langenbrunner rumours seem to be based more on some other issues that were going on there last season, as opposed to purely on his cap-friendly-ish deal.
But of course, if there is any bidding war out there on his services, we can't win. We're not in a position to bid high. It would be a challenge to fit in his contract. I'd cheerfully give up a 2nd rounder or a prospect outside of our top-5 or so for him. But I definitely agree that he *should* draw more on the open market. Not really the same category as Byfuglien or Ladd, though. But worth some higher bids than I would want the Habs to put in.
Anyway, I don't see it as a realistic possibility. Just a name I think would be nice to see on a Habs jersey.
I don't know who the Devils would move, it seems like Rolston's name stands out. But others have suggested Langenbrunner as a candidate too.
Langenbrunner is a guy I'd be interested in for the Habs. He brings some grit and skill to fit in our Top-6. And his salary is low enough that we might just barely be able to figure out a way to shoe-horn him in.
Langrenbrunner with the Habs would be amazing. I doubt NJ would even consider moving him though.
We've been saying this about the Devils ever since Stevens retired... yet they do good every.single.season
Regular season wins aside, how's their post-season record since the lockout? Total crap, they have no elite defence anymore and Brodeur's a zombie by post-season because he thinks he can play 77 games and then be an All-Star in the playoffs at his age.
Kings will contend for the next decade if they do it right, Devils are clawing at a fading past.
I don't understand why people get "mad" at these long contracts. Who cares? Let these teams shoot themselves in the foot. It will be interesting when Kovalchuk is 35-36-37, and making 6 million dollars, he already is a one-dimensional player, just think what happens when his abilities start to decline.
Regular season wins aside, how's their post-season record since the lockout? Total crap, they have no elite defence anymore and Brodeur's a zombie by post-season because he thinks he can play 77 games and then be an All-Star in the playoffs at his age.
Kings will contend for the next decade if they do it right, Devils are clawing at a fading past.
You're right outside of Parise and Zajac. Rest of the roster is quickly aging and I don't even recognize the young guys they have coming up or most of their D. Brodeur is getting close to done too. With Arnott back and now with Kovy he should have 1 more good year left in him though and they will be strong in the East this year I would imagine.
I completely agree
he will retire at 37 before the 1 million per seasons start.
I hope this gets fixed in the next CBA
No front or back loading contracts allowed
I see no problem with back loading contracts
but i do agree with the front loading
I think you might have made a mistake somewhere... 150 on 17 is less than 10/year. It would have to be over 170 on 17 years to be over 10 million per year.
I think you might have made a mistake somewhere... 150 on 17 is less than 10/year. It would have to be over 170 on 17 years to be over 10 million per year.
The cap hit is close to 9 mil.
I think what he means is that NJ would end up paying him an average of 10.55 a year if he retires when he stated. It's not he cap hit, but the money NJ would be paying him.
There is no way Bettman can sign-off on this contract. It clearly defiles the intent of the salary cap and will initiate an all out armageddon come next season.
I completely agree
he will retire at 37 before the 1 million per seasons start.
I hope this gets fixed in the next CBA
No front or back loading contracts allowed
The front or back loading is not the problem. They should limit contracts to 6 or 8 years max. maybe 8 years max for players 25 or younger and 6 years max for 26+.
It's a great cap hit, but the 17 years is a joke....the league will not do anything about it because it's Sweet Lou, but going forward, I can see these deals being denied...I guess that's the next CBA......
