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07-19-2010, 12:53 PM
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Kings to offer sheet Bobby Ryan?

First off, this is speculation on my part, no rumor. The Kings re-signed all of their remaining RFAs (not that there were any significant RFAs to retain besides Richardson). They have a cupboard full of prospects and their draft selections in the next few years may be in the later stages of the draft.

I would guess that the Ducks will match any offer sheet, but should the Kings roll the dice and try to nab Bobby Ryan? It seems to go against Dean Lombardi's philosophy of poaching other teams' players, but he is still considered a free agent with restricted rights and they are open to negotiations.

Just something to consider.

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you better hope to god you have Doughty locked up if thats the case =)...

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As much as I'd love it to happen, it won't happen, and the Duck's would match regardless.

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you better hope to god you have Doughty locked up if thats the case =)...
And JJ, and Simmonds, and Bernier, and...


well you get the picture.

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yeah the ducks went public and did what DL did a few years back saying he would match all offer sheets, so i can't see them even trying.

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Will never happen, even though I would LOVE to see Bobby wearing the crown

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Lombardi doesn't believe in them. Enough said.

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yeah no

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07-19-2010, 01:05 PM
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Would love for him to do it, but he won't.

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07-19-2010, 01:11 PM
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Come on man, are you serious? Lombardi doesn't even make deals through NORMAL trades or sign people via UFA, you think he'll sign a RFA?! No way.. He'll probably sign Stempniak and Mitchell

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If you do it, you better hope you have your best players locked up long before free agency for the next 5 years

Not that it really matters though, unless it was a ridiculous contract Ducks would match

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Trade Johnson + for Ryan and get it over with.

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07-19-2010, 01:22 PM
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What now?

Kovalchuk: Gone (Burnside is reporting a 17 year, 150 million dollar contract.. If he's right, then I'm glad Lombardi stayed away)
Gagné: Gone

Where does Lombardi go now? I've been pulling for a Patrick Sharp trade, ever since they matched the Niklas Hjalrmasson offer sheet, we all knew something had to give.. Either Sharp has to be dealt, Niemi maybe, Bolland? Either way, Lombardi has to figure something out, not because he missed out on Kovalchuk but because we lack scoring..

Stempniak is still out there? So is Willie Mitchell, two quality guys that can fill out spots in the lineup.. Marc Savard? This should be interesting

Smyth-Kopitar-Williams
Stempniak-Stoll-Brown
Richardson-Handzus-Simmonds
Parse-Schenn-Lewis
Clifford, Westgarth, Clune

Doughty-Scuderi
Johnson-Mitchell
Voynov-Greene
Drewiske, Harrold

Quick
Bernier

Not the sexiest lineup but it's still a playoff team

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07-19-2010, 01:25 PM
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Kovalchuk: Gone (Burnside is reporting a 17 year, 150 million dollar contract.. If he's right, then I'm glad Lombardi stayed away)
Gagné: Gone

Where does Lombardi go now? I've been pulling for a Patrick Sharp trade, ever since they matched the Niklas Hjalrmasson offer sheet, we all knew something had to give.. Either Sharp has to be dealt, Niemi maybe, Bolland? Either way, Lombardi has to figure something out, not because he missed out on Kovalchuk but because we lack scoring..

Stempniak is still out there? So is Willie Mitchell, two quality guys that can fill out spots in the lineup.. Marc Savard? This should be interesting

Smyth-Kopitar-Williams
Stempniak-Stoll-Brown
Richardson-Handzus-Simmonds
Parse-Schenn-Lewis
Clifford, Westgarth, Clune

Doughty-Scuderi
Johnson-Mitchell
Voynov-Greene
Drewiske, Harrold

Quick
Bernier

Not the sexiest lineup but it's still a playoff team
I wouldn't call this a playoff team. Sure we will reach the same spot.
But we will be crushed like last year.
This 2nd line isn't able to score

Now it's time to do something.
like trading Stoll for a defender, hope Schenn is a 2nd line center and try everything to bring back Frolov.

If someone has another idea just tell me

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07-19-2010, 01:29 PM
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the kings will not give bobby ryan a ridiculous contract so therefor an offer sheet is a moot point... not only would the ducks match they would then continuously pursue your RFA... the only way he ends up in a kings uni we be via trade but then if you are going to trade with a cross town rival expect to give alot

johnson + schenn + possibly more.. its highly unlikely this will ever happen...

you guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place... it depends how badly you guys want to win a cup... the kings team isn't good enough to win a cup as is but you guys wont mortgage your future.. unless you guys pay for a quality player (highly unlikely - ex. Kovalchuck) or trade your assets to acquire one (schenn etc..)... my guess is you guys continue to on the same path and will continue to be a playoff team for the foreseeable future yet never win.. you have to give to get and the kings don't seem they want to do that anytime soon.. seems to me kings brass are content with playoffs only... just my 2 cents...

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Would rather have Frolov than Stempniak.

Savard isn't coming to LA.

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07-19-2010, 01:32 PM
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Sharp is the only guy left I would be pleased with getting, and would make up for missing out on Kovy. Not sure if CHI would trade him, to a WC team on top of that.

Maybe we see Frolov back....unfortunately...best choice left after Sharp.

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07-19-2010, 01:34 PM
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Also, Jeff Carter isn't going anywhere, it looks like Mike Smith + a pick will be the return for Simon Gagné.. Smith is making 2, 200, 000$, saving the Flyers about 3 million..

EDIT: TFP's Twitter is reporting that Matt Walker is going to Philly.. Weird, that's another defenseman, Philly is loaded with defenseman.. Coburn or Carle on their way out?

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Sharp is the only guy left I would be pleased with getting, and would make up for missing out on Kovy. Not sure if CHI would trade him, to a WC team on top of that.

Maybe we see Frolov back....unfortunately...best choice left after Sharp.
Sharp would cost at least a couple ELC players that are ready to contribute.

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Stempniak is a 3rd liner who can get hot and play above his head for stretches.

I say we go for someone like Brad Boyes.

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Matt Walker and a 4th for Gagne....Carle probably gone soon.

Part of me wants Carle and part doesn't.

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I'd like a player like Semin, Ryan, or even Hemsky....but all those guys seem highly unlikely. Unless we get one of those first 2 guys I'd expect us to acquire 2 forwards to fill out the lineup, with one of them being an upgrade over a current roster player. Moving Stoll and acquiring a guy like (B)Richards would be a good move. Kaberle deal looks highly likely though, as much as I hate to admit to leafs fans, he would be a great fit on our blue line.

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07-19-2010, 01:41 PM
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Stempniak is a 3rd liner who can get hot and play above his head for stretches.

I say we go for someone like Brad Boyes.
Man, I'd love Boyes.. Philly's got a problem though, way too many defenseman who can all play at the NHL level..

Pronger
Carle
Coburn
Meszaros
Timmonen
Walker
O'Donnell
Bartulus

They also still have that goaltending problem.. I don't know, we need a top 4 defenseman, Flyers fans don't want to give up Carle because of his relationship with Pronger, I'd love to have Coburn.. Coburn + Hartnell or Carter for Quick ++

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OHhhh Hemsky is definitely an option, completely forgot about him.. I bet he could be had if we take on Souray's contract.. Dunno if Lombardi wants to do that though (doubt it)

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Now we get the ****ing pitchforks.

If we get Carle out of all of this, I'm gonna overturn my OWN car and set it on fire.

I'm sure DL's got something up his sleeve (?), but wow, what a crazy morning.

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