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04-12-2015, 11:02 PM
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La-Buf (no 2015 1st)

Would be nice for the Kings for this to happen at the draft so they can get some cap space to sign guys like Pearson etc

Anze Kopitar
2016 2nd
2017 3rd


Sam Reinhart
Zemgus Girgenson
Nikita Zadorov
2016 3rd

How's the value?

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04-12-2015, 11:07 PM
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Would be nice for the Kings for this to happen at the draft so they can get some cap space to sign guys like Pearson etc

Anze Kopitar
2016 2nd
2017 3rd


Sam Reinhart
Zemgus Girgenson
Nikita Zadorov
2016 3rd

How's the value?
I own a basket full of WATS. I'd like you to have it.

As they currently produce its a win for buffalo. But why would a team that is building for the future gut themselves?

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04-12-2015, 11:12 PM
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Yeah, after i looked at it I could tell it was an over-payment on Buffalo's part if they going for a rebuild, Ok im not gonna edit the other one, but hows about this

Anze Kopitar
2016 1st


Sam Reinhart
Nikita Zadorov
2016 1st (If out of the top 10, other wise its a 2nd)

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04-12-2015, 11:25 PM
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I'm a huge Kopitar fan, but no thanks. Would rather keep our prospects and let them develop. We'd be sending way too much value the other way, even though Kopitar is a beast.

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kings don t have a 2016 first It was traded for Sekera

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Yeah, after i looked at it I could tell it was an over-payment on Buffalo's part if they going for a rebuild, Ok im not gonna edit the other one, but hows about this

Anze Kopitar
2016 1st


Sam Reinhart
Nikita Zadorov
2016 1st (If out of the top 10, other wise its a 2nd)
I don't care how good those two may become, there is no point in trading one of the best two-way players to move up in the draft by 6 (if that) spots in the draft. And you do realize the difference between moving up 6 and moving down 20 right? because that's what you're offering if it's top 10 protected. not to mention we don't even have our 2016 pick.

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Yeah, after i looked at it I could tell it was an over-payment on Buffalo's part if they going for a rebuild, Ok im not gonna edit the other one, but hows about this

Anze Kopitar
2016 1st


Sam Reinhart
Nikita Zadorov
2016 1st (If out of the top 10, other wise its a 2nd)
One, that pick is almost guaranteed to be top 10, two that trade is awful regardless. Kopitar is a legimate star player, on what Earth do the Kings trade him to make room for guys like Pearson?

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what the actual ****...

No. Block Lombardi's number. Hell no.

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Would be nice for the Kings for this to happen at the draft so they can get some cap space to sign guys like Pearson etc

Anze Kopitar
2016 2nd
2017 3rd


Sam Reinhart
Zemgus Girgenson
Nikita Zadorov
2016 3rd

How's the value?
You know if we trade Doughty and Quick for a pile of futures too, we'd save a lot more cap space. That way we can be the new Buffalo...because cap space wins Cups.

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Holy hell of terrible! Big no from LA.

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04-13-2015, 12:46 AM
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I stopped reading at Kopitar. He is going nowhere. We miss the playoffs and you think we would trade our best forward for prospects hell no. Missing the playoffs was painful but not nearly as painful as the awful offers we will see for our players this offseason. We are not in any rebuild mode just need a few tweaks which means our core is going nowhere.

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You`ll like this one.

To La: Kessel 1 mill retained

To Toronto: 2015 1st(saved by missing playoffs) Shore/Weal Mike Richards, and another insignificant player if needed for cap reasons.

Kings finally can get rid of Williams for more cap room or move Gaborik and his reasonable contract(hes as soft as Kessel). La should be able to insulate Kessel enough.

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Kopitar has only one year left on his contract. If he walked, it would be an extreme disaster for Sabres. They're not going to ship away three future core-pieces and a first round pick with three lottery spots to a one year rental - not even if the name were Kopitar.

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Whatever LA's problem is, it isn't Kopitar. Is anyone going to be shocked if they go deep next year? No reason for them to screw it all up.

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You`ll like this one.

To La: Kessel 1 mill retained

To Toronto: 2015 1st(saved by missing playoffs) Shore/Weal Mike Richards, and another insignificant player if needed for cap reasons.

Kings finally can get rid of Williams for more cap room or move Gaborik and his reasonable contract(hes as soft as Kessel). La should be able to insulate Kessel enough.
If we don't win the draft lottery, I'd do that.


1st, Weal, Richards and Greene

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Kessel with 1mill retained.

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04-13-2015, 08:48 AM
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I am really interestd in Kopitar.

I would in no way give up that much for a 1 yr rental that Kopitar is.

I have mentioned before that I could see doing something around Kopitar for Reinhart+---that + isnt gutting the team. This only applies If Buffalo wants to seriously accelerate the rebuild.

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04-13-2015, 08:54 AM
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Kopitar is a King for life & he is definately not going to get traded for some maybes. And btw Pearson already signed for cheap (1.2. Mil. I think)


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No. Just no.

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If we don't win the draft lottery, I'd do that.


1st, Weal, Richards and Greene

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Kessel with 1mill retained.
Leafs wouldn't. Retain 1 mil on Kessel+take on Richards for a Mid 1st round pick is really bad.

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Nope.

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I'm open to the idea of moving Kopitar, but definitely not for that.

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Hahahahahaa. Kings fans saying they wouldn't move Kopitar for Reinhart, Girgensons, Zadorov and a 2016 1st. No thanks, keep Kopitar. Sabres are a few months away from drafting a better version who is 10 years younger. Wouldn't even trade Reinhart and Girgs for him.

Kopitar is turning 28, never been a ppg player and isn't at a ppg average for his career and he has ONE SEASON LEFT BEFORE UFA. He isn't worth even half of the OP proposal. Kings fans don't kid yourself DL would jump at getting Reinhart, Girgensons, Zadorov and a first for a guy with one ****ing year left.

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People just seem to consistently ignore team needs/stages of team development when making proposals like this.
From an L.A. standpoint: I get it, you guys are frustrated over not making the playoffs, so you want to convert your best forward into blue chip assets in order to pretty much accomplish a full-blown rebuild with basically only one move.

Problem is, while I agree that Kopitar holds enormous value, Buffalo doesn't really need him and is WAY better off keeping it's young core players and building around them.

L.A. should just keep their core together. I have no detailed insight into what went wrong for the Kings this year, allegedly it had to do with coaching, but the core of Kopitar, Doughty, Carter, Quick plus young players like Toffoli should have more than just one more deep run in them, maybe even another cup.

This trade just doesn't make sense.

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People just seem to consistently ignore team needs/stages of team development when making proposals like this.
From an L.A. standpoint: I get it, you guys are frustrated over not making the playoffs, so you want to convert your best forward into blue chip assets in order to pretty much accomplish a full-blown rebuild with basically only one move.

Problem is, while I agree that Kopitar holds enormous value, Buffalo doesn't really need him and is WAY better off keeping it's young core players and building around them.

L.A. should just keep their core together. I have no detailed insight into what went wrong for the Kings this year, allegedly it had to do with coaching, but the core of Kopitar, Doughty, Carter, Quick plus young players like Toffoli should have more than just one more deep run in them, maybe even another cup.

This trade just doesn't make sense.
I agree this trade makes no sense.
From a kings fan we are still in win now mode. LA is one of the (if not the) top possession teams in the league. Not every year are they going to go 3-15 past 60 minutes.
Form a Sabres POV it makes no sense mortgaging that many prospects and futures for a top line centre. especially one that only has one year left on his deal.

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Hahahahahaa. Kings fans saying they wouldn't move Kopitar for Reinhart, Girgensons, Zadorov and a 2016 1st. No thanks, keep Kopitar. Sabres are a few months away from drafting a better version who is 10 years younger. Wouldn't even trade Reinhart and Girgs for him.

Kopitar is turning 28, never been a ppg player and isn't at a ppg average for his career and he has ONE SEASON LEFT BEFORE UFA. He isn't worth even half of the OP proposal. Kings fans don't kid yourself DL would jump at getting Reinhart, Girgensons, Zadorov and a first for a guy with one ****ing year left.
This is how much of the proposal Kings fans are reading-

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Would be nice for the Kings for this to happen at the draft so they can get some cap space to sign guys like Pearson etc

Anze Kopitar
Go ask Chicago for Toews and see if you get a different response.

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