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01-15-2016, 10:30 AM
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Pacioretty to STL

What would STL be willing to part with for him?

MTL can take up to $3,5 million back in additional Cap.

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Shattenkirk ($4.25)
Jaskin ($775)
Rattie (Minors)

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Pacioretty ($4.5)

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01-15-2016, 10:30 AM
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That's an easy yes from my point of view even though we have Schwartz and Steen. Somebody can convert to RW

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I like Shattenkirk, but he's UFA in 2017, and I don't get why Habs would trade their best scoring forwad when that's what they're lacking. Jaskin and Rattie don't make up for his loss.

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01-15-2016, 10:36 AM
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I like Shattenkirk, but he's UFA in 2017, and I don't get why Habs would trade their best scoring forwad when that's what they're lacking. Jaskin and Rattie don't make up for his loss.
Shattenkirk should fix the power play which would make up for the loss in scoring on Pacioretty.

Also Jaskin and Rattie, could potentially both slot in to the top 3 lines.

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Are you a Blues fan? I've never seen you on our boards if so. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. And laugh when Bergevin is justifiably fired the next day.

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Another RHD

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01-15-2016, 10:37 AM
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Yeah no.

You don't get both Rattie and Jaskin in a trade like that. Pick one and we'll talk.

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01-15-2016, 10:38 AM
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we need more RHDs, cant wait to have a ~6M bottom pairing RHD (Shatty or Petry) and Flash or Eller as our 1st line LW'er!

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Yeah no.

You don't get both Rattie and Jaskin in a trade like that. Pick one and we'll talk.
You kidding? You realize who Patches is, correct? High 30s goal scorer, probably will break 40 at some point, on one of the best contracts in the NHL. This is an easy yes from the Blues.

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we need more RHDs, cant wait to have a ~6M bottom pairing RHD (Shatty or Petry) and Flash or Eller as our 1st line LW'er!
I love the HF Boards mantra that a Defenseman can't play on his wrong side. Ridiculous.

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That's a great deal for Stl. Montreal gives it an easy no.

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Yeah no.

You don't get both Rattie and Jaskin in a trade like that. Pick one and we'll talk.
Yes, yes you do get both.

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I love the HF Boards mantra that a Defenseman can't play on his wrong side. Ridiculous.
Well, it certainly isn't optimal.

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Well, it certainly isn't optimal.
I feel it's better than piling the minutes on markov.

Shattenkirk Subban
Beaulieu Petry
Markov Emelin

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I love the HF Boards mantra that a Defenseman can't play on his wrong side. Ridiculous.
This is a terrible deal. Only way we trade Patches is in a package for a 1C. Your proposal does not help the habs at all.

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This is a terrible deal. Only way we trade Patches is in a package for a 1C. Your proposal does not help the habs at all.
It does. You just can't see the forest from the trees.


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Lmao. A big yes. Why would the Habs even think about that?

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Lmao. A big yes. Why would the Habs even think about that?
Petrov is a closet Habs hater (hes a Habs fan on the surface)

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Lmao. A big yes. Why would the Habs even think about that?
I'll tell you why. Pacioretty is a complimentary scorer, not a "go to" guy.

He will score 30-35 goals a year if given the proper minutes, but he will not do the dirty things needed to score in Big Games especially the Playoffs. He's great off the rush, not great on the cycle or powerplay. Is a great compliment to an already established team.

Judging by the responses, it would seem that MTL could ask for more, and as this is a value thread and clearly Pacioretty meets your needs, what would STL give that maybe I thought was off-limits?

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Only problem: Patches doesn't meet our needs. Does he play center?

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Only problem: Patches doesn't meet our needs. Does he play center?
He does not meet our needs but that trade would make us better and would never be offered, but an easy yes from St louis which is hard for me to type as Shatty is my favorite current Blue.

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01-15-2016, 11:14 AM
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Petrov is a closet Habs hater (hes a Habs fan on the surface)
Incorrect. Habs Fan but a bit more of a realist, I'm not in love with the group of players they have past Price, Subban & Gallagher.

Would trade Pacioretty & Galchenyuk in a second for the right package. I think the two are criminally over-rated by the fan base. You'll see that most of my posts relate to this opinion.

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Only problem: Patches doesn't meet our needs. Does he play center?
The need for the Blues is to score and he does just that.

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01-15-2016, 11:22 AM
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Incorrect. Habs Fan but a bit more of a realist, I'm not in love with the group of players they have past Price, Subban & Gallagher.

Would trade Pacioretty & Galchenyuk in a second for the right package. I think the two are criminally over-rated by the fan base. You'll see that most of my posts relate to this opinion.
id move both of them aswell but the value isnt here and it doesnt fit our needs

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Only problem: Patches doesn't meet our needs. Does he play center?
Well if it's a center you want, you're in luck. We can offer you the guy responsible for all those beautiful goals Patches gets. His name is David Desharnais and he's a dynamo, we'd absolutely hate to lose him but today and only today he can be had for a very reasonable price.

Call us now and we'll throw in one of Gilbert or DSP at no extra charge. That's amazing value!

Call now 1-888-res-pekk

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