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07-20-2010, 08:49 PM
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How can the first few years be too frontloaded? They follow the CBA's strict guidelines.
could it be because of the last few years of the deal and how the actual money dips? i believe that actual dollars from year to year can only be cut in half.. 7 mil to 3.5 million to 1.75 etc.. etc..

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I know it sounds cruel, but it seems like maybe Gary decided to make an example of somebody, in order to curtail these sorts of contracts.

It's not really fair for the Devils, considering Hossa and others.

I think Lou will probably just go back and fix the deal, ending up with a higher cap hit. Sucks for the Devils.

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Bettman: Kovalchuk went to WHO?!

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Keep in mind Hossa makes 3.5 TOTAL over the final 4 of his deal. Total BS.

They're idiots for letting other deals go through then try fight this one.
Exactly. This is a HUGE mistake on the part of the NHL. And dont think this is going to JUST be between Devils and NHL, the NHLPA will 100% get involved.

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If the deal is nixed why the eff does NHL.COM have massive press on the deal as if it wasn't?
Because they're idiots? Seriously, this couldnt have been handled worse by the league.

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He's still staying on the Devils, I just think the deal will have to be tweaked so the cap hit is higher.


The NHL is full of morons still

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The league does not have a chance to win this.

First there is the precedent of allowing the previous deals. This is only 2 years longer than the previous longest contract and takes the player only two years older than the precedent. There is no maximum contract length clause in the CBA. Further there are players in the current league around the end age. Recchi will be 43 this year, and Chelios played last year at 47/48. Finally the payouts at the end of the contract are generally in line with what a 40+ year old would make in the league (the minimum).

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The ruling will never hold up in arbitration court. The NHL is asking for a big battle from the NHLPA and the Devils and it's not a smart play on their part.

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could it be because of the last few years of the deal and how the actual money dips? i believe that actual dollars from year to year can only be cut in half.. 7 mil to 3.5 million to 1.75 etc.. etc..

nah, its the average of the first 2 years ($6 million) divided by 2, so $3 million

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He's still staying on the Devils, I just think the deal will have to be tweaked so the cap hit is higher.


The NHL is full of morons still
Exactly, people need to stop freaking out like all of a sudden someone's going to swoop in now and sign him. He'll stay a Devil, it's just going to be on different terms.

Watch Lou find a way to award him all sorts of bonuses that bring the cap hit DOWN.

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This contract was clearly BS from the start. It was blatant cap circumvention. Props to the league for taking a stand.

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Sounds like it has something to do with the money allocation more so than the length. Seems like it would be a rather simple fix. But then again i really don't know. Just my 2 cents.

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Watch Lou cut one year off, it'll be $6.3 instead of $6. Bite me. Hell, cutting two years off only makes it $6.8M.

It doesn't matter, but Lou is going to make Bettman pair dearly for this in court.

WORST case scenario we end up with a $6.8M cap hit instead of $6M and Lou has to tap dance a little more when the season starts.

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how ridiculous, I hope Lou makes Gary look like a complete fool

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Damnit, I'm trying to study for the ****ing bar exam and this **** won't end. Why did this have to happen this summer?

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How can the first few years be too frontloaded? They follow the CBA's strict guidelines.
He actually makes less the first two years.

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The NHL is going to look like such a joke because if anyone knows the CBA rules, it's Lou.

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The Pronger deal isn't an example of cap circumvention because it's a 35+ contract. Even if it wasn't a 35+ contract it's still nowhere near as bad as Hossa or Kovalchuk's deals.

I'm guessing the NHL nixed this because Kovalchuk's deal was far more blatant and severe cap circumvention then any other deal that's happened before. Kovalchuk would also be 44 by the end of the deal, that's a lot more unrealistic then 42 (which is when Hossa's deal ends).

I'm sure that if Lou can figure out how to lower the deal by a couple of years and still maintain a similar deal then the NHL will accept it.

It's really odd that the NHL has a "Kovalchuk a Devil for life" article on nhl.com though.
it artificially lowers the cap hit of a player, that my friend is cap circumvention.

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Something just smells odd, the league would allow all this hoopla today only to nix it?
It's the dead fish wrapped in newspaper that just arrived at the NHL office in midtown.

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I feel like walking down to the league headquarters and throwing a trash can through the window

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Kovalchuk is not leaving. If anything happens at all, it will be a slightly higher cap hit.

This league is so stupid. Bettman is going to come out crying when this is over.

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This whole thing is a mess. There is not going to be hockey in 2012-2013.

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