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07-21-2010, 07:14 PM
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Rank the best Czechoslovakian (+ CZE + SVK) players

Why do I start such a thread? We have some sort of hall of fame here in the Czech republic but it's really sad how it lacks any concept and prestige. When a player gets included (if you even realise it) nobody tries to give reasons or somehow sumarise his career or make comparations with other greats of the past. We've started a discussion about that with my friend and we try to figure out who of the current players (near retirement) should be considered to get in and which of the already included players don't belong there.

Can anyone help me and could make a list of the best Czechoslovakian players (please include even the Slovaks after 1993) please. I'd appreciate it a lot.

I did something but I don't think it has enough quality to post in this OP, I am far from being an expert on history of hockey.


Thanks for any opinion...

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I really hope you start getting some replies. There is certainly enough of that kind of knowledge around here, and I'm pretty curious to see who people bring up. I know the Stastnys will be there, of course, but that's about as far back as my familiarity with Czechoslovakian hockey players goes having been born in the 70s.

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Well to start it off you with the Czechs, kinda have to go with Jagr and Hasek and then in no paticular order....

Bonk
Hamrlík
Spacek
Plekanec
Havlat
Musil
Dvorak
Kaberle
Petr Nedved (Although he actually became Canadian for the purposes of international play)
Kubina
Lang
Hejduk
Augusta
Prospal
Vokoun
Rucinsky
Straka
Svoboda
Reichel
Hemsky
Bulis

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head for now.

Slovak's...

Bondra
Chara
Halak
Stastny's
Gaborik
Demitra
Zednik
Satan
Plaffy
Hossa
Ciger
Visnovsky
Handzus


I'll think of more later I'm sure.


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Why do I start such a thread? We have some sort of hall of fame here in the Czech republic but it's really sad how it lacks any concept and prestige. When a player gets included (if you even realise it) nobody tries to give reasons or somehow sumarise his career or make comparations with other greats of the past. We've started a discussion about that with my friend and we try to figure out who of the current players (near retirement) should be considered to get in and which of the already included players don't belong there.

Can anyone help me and could make a list of the best Czechoslovakian players (please include even the Slovaks after 1993) please. I'd appreciate it a lot.

I did something but I don't think it has enough quality to post in this OP, I am far from being an expert on history of hockey.


Thanks for any opinion...
Could you post a list or a link showing who the honoured members of the Czech Hockey Hall of Fame are?

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Could you post a list or a link showing who the honoured members of the Czech Hockey Hall of Fame are?
Not exactly what you're asking for, but here's a list of IIHF HoF'ers broken down by country:

<<IIHF HoF>>

If they made it here, I would assume they are also in the specifically Czech/Slovak one(s) as well.

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So, Czechs and Slovaks both included?

I'd go like this:

Hasek

Jagr


P. Stastny


Holecek
Nedomansky
Martinec
Chara
Pospisil
Suchy

Elias
Hossa
Palffy
Bondra
B.Holik

Svehla
Svoboda
Hejduk
Hlinka
Novy
Bubla
Tikal
Jiri Holik

Machac
Dzurilla
Golonka
Demitra
Jirik
Lukac
A.Stastny
Gaborik
M.Stastny
Hamrlik
Jaroslav Holik
Vokoun

Straka
Stumpel
Reichel
Ruzicka
Zabrodsky
Kubina
Lala
Visnovsky
Malecek
Cechmanek
Roszival
Jiri Hrdina

I'm sure I missed a few. And I'm sure some will argue that some names belong near the bottom there and that others I named don't.

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Vokoun should be quite a bit higher IMO but it would take alot of work going through all of these names.

Jiri Slegr, who showed alot of promise in his Jr days and even got off to a good start in the NHL got a bit of a bum rap for defensive play from the Canucks and never really got his confidence back.

He's on this list but i ahve no idea on where to rank him right now

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Inducted 4. November 2008

Era 1908 – 1945

* Josef Maleček
* Jan Peka
* Josef Šroubek
* Ladislav Troják
* Jiří Tožička (coach)

Era 1946 – 1969

* Vladimír Bouzek (coach)
* Augustin Bubník
* Vlastimil Bubník
* Mike Buckna (coach)
* Josef Černý
* Karel Gut (player, coach)
* Stanislav Konopásek
* Bohumil Modrý
* Václav Roziňák
* Miroslav Šubrt (executive)
* Vladimír Zábrodský

Era 1970 – 1992

* Zdeněk Andršt (executive)
* Jiří Holeček
* Jiří Holík
* Vladimír Kostka sr. (coach, executive)
* Oldřich Machač
* Vladimír Martinec
* Václav Nedomanský
* Milan Nový
* Jaroslav Pitner (coach)
* František Pospíšil
* Vladimír Růžička
* Jan Suchý

Era 1993 – 2008

* Josef Augusta (player, coach)
* Luděk Bukač (coach)
* Jiří Dopita
* Dominik Hašek
* Ivan Hlinka (player, coach)
* Jaromír Jágr
* František Kaberle jr.
* Stanislav Neveselý (coach)
* Pavel Patera
* Martin Procházka
* Robert Reichel
* Martin Straka
* David Výborný

Inducted 17. April 2009

* Rudolf Baťa (referee)
* Jaroslav Holík
* Vladimír Kobranov
* Jaroslav Pouzar
* František Vaňek

Inducted 6. May 2010

* Stanislav Bacílek
* Jiří Bubla
* Jaromír Citta (executive)
* František Černík
* Bronislav Danda
* Jaroslav Drobný
* Miroslav Dvořák
* Vladimír Dzurilla
* Bohuslav Ebermann
* Richard Farda
* Jozef Golonka
* Josef Gruss
* Josef Horešovský
* Ladislav Horský (coach)
* Miloslav Hořava
* Jiří Hrdina
* Karel Hromádka
* Milan Chalupa
* Miloslav Charouzd
* Jaroslav Jirkovský
* Jaroslav Jiřík
* František Kaberle sr.
* Milan Kajkl
* Jan Kasper
* Jan Klapáč
* Jiří Kochta
* Jiří Králík
* Oldřich Kučera
* Jiří Lála
* Josef Laufer (executive)
* Vincent Lukáč
* Josef Mikoláš
* Vladimír Nadrchal
* Eduard Novák
* Jiří Novák
* František Pácalt
* Jan Palouš
* Václav Pantůček
* Miloslav Pokorný
* Rudolf Potsch
* Emil Procházka (executive)
* Jaroslav Pušbauer
* Pavel Richter
* Jaroslav Řezáč (executive)
* Ján Starší
* Karel Stibor
* Jiří Šejba
* Bohuslav Šťastný
* Marián Šťastný
* Peter Šťastný
* Vilibald Šťovík
* František Tikal
* Josef Trousílek
* Otakar Vindyš
* Miroslav Vlach

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There's quite a few Slovaks there. Funny, as there aren't really many (if any) Czechs in the Slovak one:

Inducted 2002:
Vladimír DZURILLA
Jozef GOLONKA
Ján STARŠÍ
Václav NEDOMANSKÝ
Stan MIKITA
Ladislav TROJÁK
George GROSS
Ladislav HORSKÝ
Michal POLÓNI
Peter ŠŤASTNÝ

2003:
Vojtech OKOLIČÁNY
Ján JENDEK
Rastislav JANČUŠKA
Miroslav ČERVENKA

2004:
Karol FAKO
František GREGOR
Milan KUŽELA
Vincent LUKÁČ

2005:
Igor LIBA
Jaroslav WALTER

2006:
Rudolf TAJCNÁR

2007:
Dušan PAŠEK

2008:
Dušan FAŠKO

2009:
Dárius RUSNÁK

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So, Czechs and Slovaks both included?

I'd go like this:

Hasek

Jagr


P. Stastny


Holecek
Nedomansky
Martinec
Chara
Pospisil
Suchy

Elias
Hossa
Palffy
Bondra
B.Holik

Svehla
Svoboda
Hejduk
Hlinka
Novy
Bubla
Tikal
Jiri Holik

Machac
Dzurilla
Golonka
Demitra
Jirik
Lukac
A.Stastny
Gaborik
M.Stastny
Hamrlik
Jaroslav Holik
Vokoun

Straka
Stumpel
Reichel
Ruzicka
Zabrodsky
Kubina
Lala
Visnovsky
Malecek
Cechmanek
Roszival
Jiri Hrdina

I'm sure I missed a few. And I'm sure some will argue that some names belong near the bottom there and that others I named don't.
Like the list!

But i would move up Ivan Hlinka a group and definitly put up Jan Starsi and Tomas Kaberle ahead of Svehla and Svoboda.

Guys like Cechmanek and Roszival shouldn´t make the list in my opinion. Then guys like Miroslav Satan, David Vyborny or Jiri Dopita had bigger impact.

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So, Czechs and Slovaks both included?

I'd go like this:

Hasek

Jagr


P. Stastny


Holecek
Nedomansky
Martinec
Chara
Pospisil
Suchy

Elias
Hossa
Palffy
Bondra
B.Holik

Svehla
Svoboda
Hejduk
Hlinka
Novy
Bubla
Tikal
Jiri Holik

Machac
Dzurilla
Golonka
Demitra
Jirik
Lukac
A.Stastny
Gaborik
M.Stastny
Hamrlik
Jaroslav Holik
Vokoun

Straka
Stumpel
Reichel
Ruzicka
Zabrodsky
Kubina
Lala
Visnovsky
Malecek
Cechmanek
Roszival
Jiri Hrdina

I'm sure I missed a few. And I'm sure some will argue that some names belong near the bottom there and that others I named don't.
Great list but the one name that sticks out to me, amongst the players I'm familiar with, is Vokoun, he should be a LOT higher. Like, tiers higher. Toiling away in the NHL's backwaters have left this guy severely and chronically underrated.

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I'm sure I missed a few. And I'm sure some will argue that some names belong near the bottom there and that others I named don't.
Nice list, but when Vincent Lukáč is there, Dušan Pašek, Dárius Rusnák and especially Igor Liba are missing.
Line Liba-Rusnák-Lukáč was considered as one of the bests if not second best after KLM line during mid eighties.
From D´s Rudolf Tajcnár and Milan Kužela is missing.


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Like the list!

But i would move up Ivan Hlinka a group and definitly put up Jan Starsi and Tomas Kaberle ahead of Svehla and Svoboda.

Guys like Cechmanek and Roszival shouldn´t make the list in my opinion. Then guys like Miroslav Satan, David Vyborny or Jiri Dopita had bigger impact.
Svehla was a better defenseman than Kaberle. Cechmanek was a good goalie but somewhat failed in the NHL.

I agree with Satan, Vyborny and Dopita though. Those were impact players.

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Svehla was second best D in last 20 years, behind Chara. Kaberle is still behind him.

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Would Erich Kühnhackl deserve consideration? He might be deemed as ethnically German (similar to Jozef Stümpel), but he was born in the Bohemian village Citice in 1950 and left Czechoslovakia in 1968, when he already had begun playing for a Czech club. Thus he is more a product of that hockey system than inductee Stan Mikita, who came to Canada at the age of 8.

Kühnhackls accomplishments include a top-scoring title at a world championship and being named MVP of the German league three times. He was inducted when the IIHL Hall of Fame was established in 1997 and has been named "German player of the Century".

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Would Erich Kühnhackl deserve consideration? He might be deemed as ethnically German (similar to Jozef Stümpel), but he was born in the Bohemian village Citice in 1950 and left Czechoslovakia in 1968, when he already had begun playing for a Czech club. Thus he is more a product of that hockey system than inductee Stan Mikita, who came to Canada at the age of 8.

Kühnhackls accomplishments include a top-scoring title at a world championship and being named MVP of the German league three times. He was inducted when the IIHL Hall of Fame was established in 1997 and has been named "German player of the Century".

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Given Mikita's inclusion, I'd say you make a strong case. Being ethnically German and not having played in a Czech(oslovakian) pro league are pretty big stickling points, but if you say he was born there, then...

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Nice to see Jiri Lala's name on a list. From 1981 to 84 or so, he looked easily the best non-Soviet/non-NHL player in the world (awesome skills), but after the mid-80s ---> nothing. What happened?

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Here's a name to think about.

Petr Briza

http://www.hockeygoalies.org/bio/briza.html

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/show_player.cgi?serial=1044

Best goaltender 1993 World Championships, and an all-star for both his seasons playing in Finland.

Plus he's a goal scorer: "The only goalie in Czech hockey history to score a goal (1991 versus Steaua Bucharest from Romania)... Romanian goaltender was on ice when goal was scored." - Total Hockey

Since he spent most of his prime as the backup to Hasek on the Czech national team, it is very hard to say how good an international resume he might of had otherwise.

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70s list is pretty good, though I always have Martinec slightly above Nedomansky. And I always think of Jiri Holik as the most talented of the Holiks.

Bobby Holik was an elite shutdown center, maybe the must shutdown center in the league, from 99-02, but outside of that time frame, he really wasn't much more than a solid two-way player who used his size.

Guys like Zabrodsky and Malecek are notoriously hard to rate, given the competition levels.

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Some time ago, a panel of Czech experts rated the top Czech players of all time. Here is their list. It is for Czech players only (so no Stastny or other 100% Slovaks): I believe it came out in 1998, so it might shortchange more recent players.

1. DOMINIK HAŠEK 472
2. JAROMÍR JÁGR 357
3. VLADIMÍR ZÁBRODSKÝ 240
4. VLADIMÍR MARTINEC 235
5. IVAN HLINKA 181
6. VLASTIMIL BUBNÍK 160
7. JAN SUCHÝ 154
8. JIŘÍ HOLÍK 136
9. JOSEF MALEČEK 121
10. VÁCLAV NEDOMANSKÝ 98
11. Jiří Holeček 97
12. Bohumil Modrý 93
13. Vladimír Růžička 71
14. František Pospíšil 68
15. Jaroslav Holík 54
16. Josef Černý 41
17. Milan Nový 35
18. Jaroslav Drobný 20
19. Jiří Dopita 14
20. Miroslav Vlach 11

http://sport.idnes.cz/dominik-hasek-...2012_sport_noc

Based one what we know, Nedomansky and Novy seem unusually low. Nedomansky can probably be explained by the fact that he reportedly considers himself more Slovakian than Czech.

We still couldn't figure out why Novy would be so low. Supposedly, he shied away from physical contact in international competition, but even so, his rating seems absurdly low.


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Some time ago, a panel of Czech experts rated the top Czech players of all time. Here is their list. It is for Czech players only:

1. DOMINIK HAŠEK 472
2. JAROMÍR JÁGR 357
3. VLADIMÍR ZÁBRODSKÝ 240
4. VLADIMÍR MARTINEC 235
5. IVAN HLINKA 181
6. VLASTIMIL BUBNÍK 160
7. JAN SUCHÝ 154
8. JIŘÍ HOLÍK 136
9. JOSEF MALEČEK 121
10. VÁCLAV NEDOMANSKÝ 98
11. Jiří Holeček 97
12. Bohumil Modrý 93
13. Vladimír Růžička 71
14. František Pospíšil 68
15. Jaroslav Holík 54
16. Josef Černý 41
17. Milan Nový 35
18. Jaroslav Drobný 20
19. Jiří Dopita 14
20. Miroslav Vlach 11

http://sport.idnes.cz/dominik-hasek-...2012_sport_noc

Based one what we know, Nedomansky and Novy seem unusually low. Nedomansky can probably be explained by the fact that he reportedly considers himself more Slovakian than Czech.

We still couldn't figure out why Novy would be so low. Supposedly, he shied away from physical contact in international competition, but even so, his rating seems absurdly low.
Where's Stastny?

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Where's Stastny?
Considered a slovak, I assume.

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Slovakian. I edited the post to make it more clear.

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There's quite a few Slovaks there. Funny, as there aren't really many (if any) Czechs in the Slovak one:

Inducted 2002:
Vladimír DZURILLA
Jozef GOLONKA
Ján STARŠÍ
Václav NEDOMANSKÝ
Stan MIKITA
Ladislav TROJÁK
George GROSS
Ladislav HORSKÝ
Michal POLÓNI
Peter ŠŤASTNÝ

2003:
Vojtech OKOLIČÁNY
Ján JENDEK
Rastislav JANČUŠKA
Miroslav ČERVENKA

2004:
Karol FAKO
František GREGOR
Milan KUŽELA
Vincent LUKÁČ

2005:
Igor LIBA
Jaroslav WALTER

2006:
Rudolf TAJCNÁR

2007:
Dušan PAŠEK

2008:
Dušan FAŠKO

2009:
Dárius RUSNÁK
Nice to see Stanislas honoured.

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So, Czechs and Slovaks both included?

I'd go like this:

Hasek

Jagr


P. Stastny


Holecek
Nedomansky
Martinec
Chara
Pospisil
Suchy

Elias
Hossa
Palffy
Bondra
B.Holik

Svehla
Svoboda
Hejduk
Hlinka
Novy
Bubla
Tikal
Jiri Holik

Machac
Dzurilla
Golonka
Demitra
Jirik
Lukac
A.Stastny
Gaborik
M.Stastny
Hamrlik
Jaroslav Holik
Vokoun

Straka
Stumpel
Reichel
Ruzicka
Zabrodsky
Kubina
Lala
Visnovsky
Malecek
Cechmanek
Roszival
Jiri Hrdina

I'm sure I missed a few. And I'm sure some will argue that some names belong near the bottom there and that others I named don't.
I think you underrate cechmanek a little bit, this guy was a vezina caliber goalie for like 3 years, alot of guys that you rank above him were never in contention for a major award.

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