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07-22-2010, 10:27 AM
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Not another Carbo thread...

It's maybe because he was one of my favorite player but am I the only one who still feel bad about Carbonneau getting fired ...

Yes he have bad communication skills but I still find that Gainey was fast to fire him...

In retrospect, was it a good thing?

I know that what done is done but I liked is style of play better than Martin and i'm steel thinking about Carbo and wondering how life would be with him... ( ex-girlfriend/boy-friend syndrom)

What do you think?

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He was a terrible coach

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he just had no idea what he was doing

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had it been to replace him by Michel Therrien, I wouldn't have agreed.

but GC is no contest to JM, no contest!

+ the big swipe allowed for the hire of Guy Boucher, our HC in 3-4-5 years, when JM will leave.

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He was the worst coach of all time. Seriously. He was garbage. There's a reason nobody has hired him since.

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He was more vocal with the refs trying to do their job, then he was with his team when they weren't doing theirs.

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never seen a worse coach with the habs...

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I still can't figure out how anybody can have any sympathy for the head coach behind the man. Gainey has been extremly patient with him. He's made bonehead mistakes for 3 years and seemingly never learned anything out of it.

And don't come with the 2007-2008 argument. 2007-2008 happened for a single reason: Kovalev.

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Your current coach is a great coach, be happy with him.

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He had no system. But when Kovy was going nuts in 08, it was a big advantage given the players we had back then. He let them play and we got to be the best of the East for the regular season.

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He proved his excellence and made us regret it with all the accomplishments after his firing.

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He had no system. But when Kovy was going nuts in 08, it was a big advantage given the players we had back then. He let them play and we got to be the best of the East for the regular season.
Still, in the playoffs, when coaching and adjustments have a greater importance, we collapsed like a teen getting drunk for the first time.

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Still, in the playoffs, when coaching and adjustments have a greater importance, we collapsed like a teen getting drunk for the first time.
Exactly.

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It's funny though because when he was fired 50% of the board was defending him saying he shouldn't have been. Now 90% have the same opinion that he sucked as a coach what like a year or two later? At least the poster above can admit he likes the guy. Honestly though I was one of the people who agreed with the firing.

He never gave guys any time to build chemistry, was constantly shifting the lines around etc. I hated him as a coach to be honest. He needs to be more patient.

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It's maybe because he was one of my favorite player but am I the only one who still feel bad about Carbonneau getting fired ...

Yes he have bad communication skills but I still find that Gainey was fast to fire him...

In retrospect, was it a good thing?

I know that what done is done but I liked is style of play better than Martin and i'm steel thinking about Carbo and wondering how life would be with him... ( ex-girlfriend/boy-friend syndrom)

What do you think?

Carbo was awful!!!! He lost control of his team and could not get them to perform and anytime that happens in the NHL....its a very very bad thing.

He was also terrible when it came to publicly humiliating his players by saying things in the media instead of talking to the players personally and behind closed doors.

He was also bad at never giving players a chance to gel together. He changed his lineup 20 times a game, playing everybody with everybody. You have to set the lines and give at least 5 games for players to get comfortable playing with each other, not change the lines every shift.....that doesn't work at any level of hockey.
He was a terrible coach and he deserved to be fired!!!!

I don't feel bad for him at all.....if he wanted to keep coaching, he should have came up with some better methods and been a better team coach.

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Still, in the playoffs, when coaching and adjustments have a greater importance, we collapsed like a teen getting drunk for the first time.
u mean when Price was letting in 4 goals on 20 shots?

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Probably the worst coach in the history of the NHL.

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Probably the worst coach in the history of the NHL.
I would put him ahead of Al McNeil, Bob Berry, Mario Tremblay.

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I think Guy's a prime example of someone who was handed the reigns far too soon. If anything, Muller has learned from that and isn't to quick to jump ship.

I think Guy will find a coaching job again, but he's going to have to work his way up. If he wants to be a head coach now, it's going to have to be in the minors or lower. If he's prepared to accept an assistant coaching position, he should find work again even at the NHL level.

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I don't think he was that horrible but him not having success at the under 18's hurt him. I still think he can be a good NHL coach!

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I don't think he was that horrible but him not having success at the under 18's hurt him. I still think he can be a good NHL coach!

Guy Boucher is the anti-carbo

200% psychology and communication.

So in that, Carbo is a dinosaur. He'd have been successful in the 70's when Clarke and Cherry were king.

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never seen a worse coach with the habs...
Mario Tremblay is not pleased with this statement.

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His coaching strategy was let Kovalev have a career year.

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That's a misleading title. I was expecting a thread on puppies.

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