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2010-2011 Florida Panthers Prospect Poll #10

View Poll Results: Who is the Panthers #10 Ranked Prospect?
Keaton Ellerby - D [2007 - 10th Overall] 18 43.90%
Kenndal McArdle - LW [2005 - 20th Overall] 1 2.44%
Alexander Petrovic - D [2010 - 36th Overall] 7 17.07%
Drew Shore - C [2009 - 44th Overall] 3 7.32%
Alexander Salak - G [FA] 3 7.32%
Evgeni Dadonov - RW [2007 - 71st Overall] 8 19.51%
Marc Cheverie - G [2006 - 193rd Overall] 0 0%
Connor Brickley - C [2010 - 50th Overall] 0 0%
Garrett Wilson - LW [2009 - 107th Overall] 0 0%
Joonas Donskoi - RW [2010 - 99th Overall] 1 2.44%
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2010-2011 Florida Panthers Prospect Poll #10

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The final list will be comprised of the top 20 prospects followed by 3 honorable mentions. The nature of the poll is there are 10 prospects to select from and you can post who should be added to the next poll.

Used the following requirements for prospect qualification:
1) 25YO or under
2) Played in less than 50 NHL games in career
3) No more than 41 games in a single season.



FLA Prospect Rankings
1. Jacob Markstrom - G [84.78%] - Played for Brynas(SEL)
2. Erik Gudbranson - D [73.08%] - Played for Kingston(OHL)
3. Michael Grabner - RW [60.42%] - Played for Manitoba(AHL)
4. Nick Bjugstad - C [50.00%] - Played for Blane(USHS)
5. Colby Robak - D [33.33%] - Played for Brandon(WHL)
6. Michal Repik - RW [43.48%] - Played for Rochester(AHL)
7. Quinton Howden - LW [40.48%] - Played for Moose Jaw(WHL)
8. John McFarland - C [44.74%] - Played for Sudbury(OHL)
9. Jason Garrison - D [39.47%] - Played for Rochester(AHL)

Recent Graduates:
Dmitry Kulikov - D 2009 [14th]
Shawn Matthias - C 2006 [47th]
Michael Frolik - C 2006 [10th]

Remaining Prospects:
Name Position Draft [Position] League Team GP G A Pts
Joe Basaraba RW 2010 [69th] USHS Shattuck-St. Mary's 52 24 22 46
Josh Birkholz RW 2009 [67th] NCAA Minnesota 36 5 1 6
RJ Boyd D 2010 [183rd] USHS Cushing 35 2 11 13
Sam Brittain G 2010 [92nd] AJHL Canmore - - - -
Brady Calla RW 2006 [73rd] ECHL Florida 16 2 2 4
Michael Caruso D 2006 [103rd] AHL Rochester 67 1 10 11
Adam Comrie D 2008 [80th] OHL Guelph 68 14 26 40
Mike Duco LW FA AHL Rochester 59 9 10 19
Corey Durocher LW 2010 [153rd] OHL Kingston 66 15 11 26
Brian Foster G 2005 [161st] NCAA New Hampshire - - - -
Benjamin Gallacher D 2010 [93rd] AJHL Camrose 43 4 6 10
Sergei Gayduchenko G 2007 [202nd] KHL Yaroslavl - - - -
Jordan Henry D FA AHL Rochester 76 13 18 31
Zachary Hyman RW 2010 [123rd] CCHL Hamilton 49 35 40 75
AJ Jenks LW 2008 [100th] OHL Plymouth 52 23 40 63
Corban Knight C 2009 [135th] NCAA North Dakota 37 6 7 13
Derrick Lapoint D 2006 [116th] NCAA North Dakota 43 2 20 22
John Lee D 2007 [131st] NCAA Denver 41 2 10 12
Wade Megan C 2009 [138th] NCAA Boston University 16 3 6 9
Tyler Plante G 2005 [32nd] AHL Rochester - - - -
Scott Timmins C 2009 [165th] OHL Windsor 56 30 24 54

Prospect added: Joonas Donskoi - RW
Votes: Donskoi[5], Hyman [3], Jenks [3], Plante [3], Comrie [1]

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Ellerby.

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Petrovic, add Hyman.

Went with Petrovic because he was a possible first round draftpick this year, and is younger than Ellerby. Who imo doesn't seem to have it, atleast not yet. Ellerby could be a bust, and have not shown otherwise this far.

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Petrovic, add Timmins.

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Dadonov. He's got legit 2nd line potential and just had a solid rookie year in the AHL. Ellerby just hasn't developed well so far and his upside isn't all that impressive. He could still turn it around, though. Petrovic is getting a little too hyped at this point in my opinion. Doesn't contribute enough offensively and his defensive game still needs work. Definitely a long term project.

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Shore. I feel he's getting overlooked especially with the huge number of prospects we just added. He's a longterm prospect, but he has top 6 upside, and we still really need top 6 centers. He also had a good season last year in the NCAA. I agree with Clint about Ellerby's development being slow and I also agree that Petrovic is getting overhyped lately.

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Shore. I feel he's getting overlooked especially with the huge number of prospects we just added. He's a longterm prospect, but he has top 6 upside, and we still really need top 6 centers. He also had a good season last year in the NCAA.
He had an okay season last year. Shore's got good size but I don't see him as a top 6 center. He just doesn't seem to have the offensive acumen to really make an impact as a first or second line guy. I believe he was buried on the depth chart last year under several more experienced forwards, so this year will really determine whether or not he's got the upside we're looking for. Until he really breaks out I don't see giving him a top-10 ranking as a realistic thing to do. We'll see what kind of prospect he is this upcoming season, as he'll be getting more ice time now that guys like Rakhshani and Ruegsegger are graduating.

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im kinda surprised that so many are voting for ellerby. i think ive kinda soured on him because i have a lot of trust in deboer and i know deboer isnt that high on him. thats the only reason i can think of to explain why im not so excited about him anymore.

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im kinda surprised that so many are voting for ellerby. i think ive kinda soured on him because i have a lot of trust in deboer and i know deboer isnt that high on him. thats the only reason i can think of to explain why im not so excited about him anymore.
That's true, but he's so close to the NHL right now. I picked him over Petrovic because he has proven that he can play with pros in the AHL. He might even be able to play in the NHL next year if he eases in (ie around 10 minutes a game until he earns PDB's trust).

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Surprised about Ellerby votes too. I've heard from many Rochester fans that he sucked in AHL

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I'd take Shore, Dadonov, and Petrovic over Ellerby. Unless he breakouts this year, I think he will be in 16-20 range if he is still a prospect next year.

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That's true, but he's so close to the NHL right now. I picked him over Petrovic because he has proven that he can play with pros in the AHL. He might even be able to play in the NHL next year if he eases in (ie around 10 minutes a game until he earns PDB's trust).
If Ellerby doesn't win a spot in camp, I expect he'll have a regular NHL job by the end of the season. If not, then he would start slipping on the prospect list.

He is still only 22 years old, and some defensemen take longer to develop. I think at this point, Ellerby is a safe bet to be an NHL defensemen.

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Dadonov. He's got legit 2nd line potential and just had a solid rookie year in the AHL. Ellerby just hasn't developed well so far and his upside isn't all that impressive. He could still turn it around, though. Petrovic is getting a little too hyped at this point in my opinion. Doesn't contribute enough offensively and his defensive game still needs work. Definitely a long term project.
He's not a longterm project at all. He's an extremely safe bet to be an NHL defenseman, and likely a top 4. His defensive game still needs work? Yeah, of course, he's 18. Does it need a lot of work? No. He's very good defensively, already one of the best shutdown guys in the WHL. He's big, very physical, tough, ultra-competitive, skates well, and he makes good decisions. I don't really know what you're seeing to say those things about him. He probably COULD play in the NHL in 2 years, although it would be wise to give him a year or two in the AHL. He was a 1st rounder in a lot of rankings and mocks, he definitely could have been a 1st rounder if the right team was on the board. He's not being overhyped at all, he's a very good D prospect.

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He's not a longterm project at all. He's an extremely safe bet to be an NHL defenseman, and likely a top 4. His defensive game still needs work? Yeah, of course, he's 18. Does it need a lot of work? No. He's very good defensively, already one of the best shutdown guys in the WHL. He's big, very physical, tough, ultra-competitive, skates well, and he makes good decisions. I don't really know what you're seeing to say those things about him.
I don't just pull crap out my ass. (That came out wrong.)

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"Petrovic is a risk taker. He is an all or nothing style defender who either makes an impact play or gets caught out of position. Few players with his size are as explosive on their feet, which really helps Petrovic stand out and shine at times. Petrovic always finishes his checks but can sometimes over commit, allowing players to shake him and take advantage of the space he leaves open while closing in. He is very good with the puck when unchallenged and given space and time. He needs to continue to improve and develop better skills in tight or under pressure."
- International Scouting Services 2010 NHL Draft Guide

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Has good passing touch and a hard shot, but he's got to show a little more desire to get involved offensively. Makes a pretty good first pass. Skating is a big plus here. Has good feet and a smooth, long stride. Overall mobility is pretty good. ... Consistently physical, but is never really punishing. But for all the size and strength he has, he loses a lot of battles for the puck that he should win. But has a huge frame and should be a very strong 220-230 pounds by the time he hits his prime. Good character, sticks up for his teammates, and is willing to drop the gloves. ... This guy's reactions in the d-zone just flat out confuse me. I just can't understand how a guy with this kind of agility gets beat so often in his own end. Usually you tend to think you can teach a guy positioning and gap control, but I have to wonder a bit on this one. And it's not really gap control - usually he seems to take a good angle, but then just doesn't react as the forward makes a move. Other times he tends to run around a bit and chase the puck carrier. I see the need for a lot of remedial work on his d-zone play.
- Red Line Report's Michael Remmerde

And AGAIN, people, before we get involved in McFarland 2.0, I'm not saying that Petrovic isn't a good prospect or that I want him to fail. Just that some of you need to ease off the throttle on the hype machine instead of resorting to homerism. If we're real about our prospects and understand that not everyone is a blue chip prospect, we'll be much more prepared to see what this team's strong points are, and what we're lacking. The same thing happened with Matthias. He was touted on this board after the Bertuzzi trade as our next #1 center, the next phenom, ready to dominate right out of the gate. It turns out he's a pouter when sent to the AHL and doesn't want to earn his bones, and then struggles to get on the board once given a shot in the NHL.

MR, Petrovic is a long term prospect. He needs work. He's not NHL ready and judging from actual scouting reports, he's still a few seasons off.


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- International Scouting Services 2010 NHL Draft Guide


- Red Line Report's Michael Remmerde

I don't just pull crap out my ass.


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yes, but how do you know they didnt pull it out of their ass. the more i follow sports the more i think people just state the obvious and rarely if ever have depth or insight. but who knows, just a thought.

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yes, but how do you know they didnt pull it out of their ass. the more i follow sports the more i think people just state the obvious and rarely if ever have depth or insight. but who knows, just a thought.
Because, King Panther, they're paid professionals who must have a modicum of credibility or else no one will purchase their product. I put much more weight into the opinion of paid scouts and analysts over HFboards fanboys who likely have never seen a given prospect play, and possibly never even heard of said prospect until after we drafted him.

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