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07-23-2010, 06:48 PM
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When Betts comes back:

Hartnell-Richards-Zherdev
Leino-Carter-Briere
JVR-Giroux-XXXX
Lappy-Betts-YYYY

XXXX = Carcillo/Powe/Nodl/Testuwide/Legein/Maroon*
YYYY = Carcillo/Powe/Shelley

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Coburn
O'Donnell-Mezaros
Walker

MFL
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07-23-2010, 07:31 PM
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Well they just resigned powe which is good. so he will probably start in one of the lines. which means shelley will not start. and i think they are done making moves on offense.

so what do you guys think the lines will be next season?
I will give you a answer in about two months or so.

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07-23-2010, 08:19 PM
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Too early to tell. Should look about the same as last year except Gagne=Zherdev. Defense I think Mes should play top line with Pronger. Kimmo and Coburn. OD and Carle.

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07-23-2010, 09:08 PM
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It will be so funny if Carter does in fact play LW in the pre season.

MAKE IT HAPPEN LAVI.

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is the 4th line going to be...

powe-betts-lappy on a regular basis?

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07-24-2010, 08:48 PM
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I think Lavi goes with

Leino/Richards/Zherdev
Hartnell/Carter/Briere
JVR/Giroux/Carcillo
Powe/Betts/Lappy

Pronger/Carle
Timo/Coburn
Meszaros/O'Donnell

Turco (wishful thinking?)
Leighton

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07-24-2010, 09:02 PM
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I'm shocked that people are splitting up Hartnell - Briere - Leino. I'd be shocked if they split that line up before they fail...and they've yet to fail.

This is what I'd like to see; I really don't know what will actually happen.

Giroux - Richards - Zherdev
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
JVR - Carter - Carcillo (I'd prefer that Carter gets the "lesser" winger of everyone in the top 9. I just think his style of play makes his wingers less important.)
Powe-Betts-Lappy
Shelley filling in for Powe and Carcillo as they see fit.

Pronger - Carle
Kimmo - Coburn
Mesz - O'Donnell
Walker

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07-24-2010, 10:55 PM
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JvR -Richards-Giroux (Prouduced tons of chances when they played together in the last Montreal game in the regular season)
Hartnell-Briere-Leino (One word - Playoffs)
Carcillo-Carter-Zherdev (Assuming Carts/Zherdev have chemistry)
Powe-Betts-Lappy (assuming Shelley gets scratched eventually)

Very possible that JvR gets put on Carters line and they move Zherdev up to Richie's line with Giroux

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07-24-2010, 10:57 PM
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I'm shocked that people are splitting up Hartnell - Briere - Leino. I'd be shocked if they split that line up before they fail...and they've yet to fail.

This is what I'd like to see; I really don't know what will actually happen.

Giroux - Richards - Zherdev
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
JVR - Carter - Carcillo (I'd prefer that Carter gets the "lesser" winger of everyone in the top 9. I just think his style of play makes his wingers less important.)
Powe-Betts-Lappy
Shelley filling in for Powe and Carcillo as they see fit.

Pronger - Carle
Kimmo - Coburn
Mesz - O'Donnell
Walker
That looks really good on paper.

Lrt's hope it works on the ice.

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07-24-2010, 11:26 PM
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DU's setup is a goodie on paper. Agree.

One of the things I like about this team is how much vertical movement there is on the depth chart.

I think we should keep it,

except move Carle down to the bottom pairing

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07-24-2010, 11:28 PM
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JvR -Richards-Giroux (Prouduced tons of chances when they played together in the last Montreal game in the regular season)
Hartnell-Briere-Leino (One word - Playoffs)
Carcillo-Carter-Zherdev (Assuming Carts/Zherdev have chemistry)
Powe-Betts-Lappy (assuming Shelley gets scratched eventually)

Very possible that JvR gets put on Carters line and they move Zherdev up to Richie's line with Giroux
i like this one

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07-25-2010, 02:56 AM
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Not necessarily what I want, but this is what I think the lines will look like when we're healthy...

Hartnell-Richards-Zherdev
Leino-Carter-Briere
Carcillo-Giroux-JVR*
Powe-Betts-Lapperiere
Shelley

*(Claude deserves to play a top-6 role, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers are holding him back a bit because they want him to sign his next contract at an affordable price before they give him the chance to have a breakout season offensively)

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Meszaros
Coburn-O'Donnell
Walker

Leighton
Boucher

Although I'm still holding out hope that I'll be able to swap Boucher out for Turco...

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07-25-2010, 04:07 AM
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Trouble is, that we have to keep the leino briere hartnell line together, just incase they tear it up like they did in the playoffs again. Trouble is that it leaves a talented player out.

Zherdev-Richards-Giroux:
Leino-Briere-Hartnell:
Hartnell-Carter-JVR:
Shelley/Betts/Lappy/Powe/Carcillo

We might have a good deal of talented forwards, but not many that can play together

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07-25-2010, 05:27 AM
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my problem with the briere-hartnell-leino line is that two of those guys really ramp up their performance in the playoffs (well, from what i can tell watching leino this year). im really curious to see if theyre effective during the regular season

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07-25-2010, 06:03 AM
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my problem with the briere-hartnell-leino line is that two of those guys really ramp up their performance in the playoffs (well, from what i can tell watching leino this year). im really curious to see if theyre effective during the regular season
Like it's been said in this thread. You play them together until the magic fades away, then change. Also, I have a feeling they will not continue their awesome, atleast not for full season.


I LOVE those DU's lines, I actually posted them a while back but you saw the effort to explain why they'd work so well.

As he noted, one thing that's the surest thing on this planet: You don't put Giroux or Zherdev with Carter (Briere is also abit so-so). These two magicians NEED the puck in their stick. Most of Carter's passes are via endboards/glasses or goalies' pads.

G&Z would work together really well, methinks - definately looking forward to see them throwing some breath-taking passes back and forth leading into a highlight reel goal.

I can see this happening rather often: a D-man outletting to Carter, him skating thru the middle and dumping it to the left corner. James and Danny will go digging it out of there, Carts grabs the puck, skates around the faceoff circle towards the middle (while Carcillo and JvR crashes the net) and releases a wicked one.

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07-25-2010, 08:53 AM
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Ok This is just conjecture on my part. So for fun only here goes.

Lines are in no order.

Hartnell/Briere/Leino(cannot break them up yet)
Carter/Richards/Testwuide( I would love to see him make it)
JVR/Giroux/Zherdev(this line could be something. Come on JVR!)
Shelly/Betts/Powe/Lappy/Carcillo -- mix match as needed

Pronger/Carle
Timo/Coburn
Mes/Walker
OD/OB -- mix match with others as needed

ML/Backlund
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07-25-2010, 12:31 PM
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JvR - Richards - Zherdev
Carcillo - Carter - Giroux
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Powe/Shelley - Betts - Lappy
Powe/Shelley

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - O'Donnell
Bartulis (I'm thinking Walker gets waived)

Leighton (Hopefully it's Turco)
Boucher

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Well, at least one player from the Phantoms/rookie is bound to make the squad. I think the lines will look like the following:

Zherdev - Richards - Testwuide
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
JVR - Carter - Giroux
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Shelly

Pronger - Meszaros
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - O'Donnell

Leighton
Boucher

Call it a gut feeling, but the way the Flyers and their scouts have been hyping Testwuide, I really think they're going to give him every opportunity to crack the roster. The best spot that I see him is on the Richards-Zherdev line as the big body to park in front of the net. He's also a very good skater, so he can definitely keep up with both of them. He might just be the ideal player to fill the role that Knuble played that hasn't been filled yet.

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07-25-2010, 12:47 PM
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Giroux - Richards - Zherdev
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
Carcillo - Carter - JVR
Shelley - Betts - Lappierre
Powe

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - O'Donnell
Walker

NEW GOALIE - Enter Turco
Leighton

This team COULD still be a cup contender, providing Holmgren doesn't do more damage than has previously been done

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07-25-2010, 12:48 PM
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This season is going to be fun for all the wrong reasons -- calling Briere out for defensive gaffes at center, wondering why the hell Carcillo isn't with Laperriere and Betts when possible, wondering where the **** Jody Shelley and Matt Walker are and what the **** they're doing (even when they're on the ice), and having an imprint on all our faces from facepalms inspired by Leighton and Boucher similar to Homer Simpson's ass groove in his couch, only minus the comfort.

I can't wait.

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[Testwuide] might just be the ideal player to fill the role that Knuble played that hasn't been filled yet.
While I'd love it, I don't know if it's fair to say he could provide that presence. That role is so hard to figure out...Knuble didn't even do it until he was around thirty. The line might work and Testwuide might look good, but I don't think it's fair to put that label on him simply because we've been missing Mike Knuble ever since he went through the door.

Something I haven't really seen spoken about much just yet is chemistry. I really want to know how the players feel about all the change, and I want to see how it will effect any possible on-ice play. That's not to question their desire, but they have to know in their heads that the team who went on that awesome run a couple months ago had an "it" feel to them. Parts of them have to feel like they didn't get an entirely fair shake, with a leash long enough to walk them to at least the 2010-11 trade deadline to see if they could keep it going.

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I know everyone will hate this:

Giroux Richards JVR
Hartnell Briere Leino
Shelley Carter Zherdev
Carcillo Betts Lappy

Still think they got Shelley to be more than a palooka. Zherdev would be a real threat with Carter, Shelley can crash into things and knock the puck loose.
Have to keep the big play off line together to start.
I think the Richards line has all the elements of a line that could put up a lot of 5 point games.
The fourth line is darn near perfect and Carcillo plays with more attention to detail when he is with the other two.

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Well, at least one player from the Phantoms/rookie is bound to make the squad. I think the lines will look like the following:

Zherdev - Richards - Testwuide
Hartnell - Briere - Leino
JVR - Carter - Giroux
Carcillo - Betts - Laperriere
Shelly

Pronger - Meszaros
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - O'Donnell

Leighton
Boucher

Call it a gut feeling, but the way the Flyers and their scouts have been hyping Testwuide, I really think they're going to give him every opportunity to crack the roster. The best spot that I see him is on the Richards-Zherdev line as the big body to park in front of the net. He's also a very good skater, so he can definitely keep up with both of them. He might just be the ideal player to fill the role that Knuble played that hasn't been filled yet.
I'm not saying it's impossible, because I too like what I hear of Testwuide; but we've got a crowded forward group already. If Testwuide (or someone else) made their way onto the squad that means that Powe/Shelley become the 14th forward...and that's just unnecessary.

As it stands now, we have our 13 forwards set (with presumably Powe, Shelley, or Carcillo sitting on any given night). Those of you that think Shelley will be waived are out of your mind...you don't waive a guy you JUST made a significant investment into. Additionally, if Powe was thought of as anything less than a 13th forward, why would he have even been re-signed.

Regardless, it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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07-25-2010, 02:01 PM
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This season is going to be fun for all the wrong reasons -- calling Briere out for defensive gaffes at center, wondering why the hell Carcillo isn't with Laperriere and Betts when possible, wondering where the **** Jody Shelley and Matt Walker are and what the **** they're doing (even when they're on the ice), and having an imprint on all our faces from facepalms inspired by Leighton and Boucher similar to Homer Simpson's ass groove in his couch, only minus the comfort.

I can't wait.
Wow you must be fun to live with

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I really like the idea of Carter moving to the left side. I think it will give him more opportunity to score. Look at what Ovechkin and Kovalchuk do on the off wing. I think Carter would be even a bigger threat in that position. He can still be a sound defender and he can still be a puck controlling player. I would keep both Giroux and Briere at center. Yes Briere is a liability defensively, but he's just not a winger. You can tell he is more comfortable in the middle from his playoff performances.

Carter-Richards-Zherdev
Harntell-Briere-Leino
JVR-Giroux-Powe/Nodl
Shelley/Carcillo-Betts-Lappy

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