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07-25-2010, 09:18 AM
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Washington doesn't want another PP QB

Last season, the Caps had the number 1 PP in the league with Green as the PP QB and Ovechkin at the other point. Both frequently play the entire two minutes. Green is phenomenal in this role, so any PP QB the Caps acquire would not be as good as Green and as a result, not get much TOI during the PP.

If you're wondering why they acquired Corvo if they don't need a PP QB, it's because at the trade deadline they did want a second one. However, at the trade deadline, John Carlson had played less than 10 NHL games. Carlson was the PP QB of the Hershey Bears, but the Caps were reluctant to rely on an inexperienced rookie for their playoff run. Of course, Carlson ended up out-playing Corvo in the end, but that was their line of thinking.

PS Washington has plenty of cap space, so they have no need to dump salary either.

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Yeah, they need a guy that actually knows how to play defense, hence why everyone thought Volchenkov was going there before FA.

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They scored the most goals in the NHL last year? Why would there be speculation that wanted one in the first place?

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Jeff Finger can block a lot of shots for you and be a decent 5/6 guy, albeit at a $3.5M per year tag. You did say cap-space wasn't an issue though..

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Andy Sutton.

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Andy Sutton.
Ottawa's not keeping him?

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Yeah, they need a guy that actually knows how to play defense, hence why everyone thought Volchenkov was going there before FA.
you can make fun of green and his defense all you like. in the past two seasons he is +63, scored 50 goals, has more than a point per game and two norris trophy finalist nominations.

this thread was posted because a number of people of piled on the rumor train known as souray to the caps.

the caps dont need souray. period.

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They scored the most goals in the NHL last year? Why would there be speculation that wanted one in the first place?
Is it pretty rocky in PA? Washington was subject to the 'x', of the infamous 'Kaberle to 'x' team' scheme. At about the deadline it was rumoured that Alzner had been offered straight up for Kaberle. They did in fact go out an acquire Corvo, as explained above, but with Carlson certainly showing consistent NHL-potential that need has been filled. It hasn't allieved the assumption, however, that since such deals were speculated/made, that Wahsington is still in need of an extra puckmover.

Washington is good on defense. They need a certain physical presence though, which was what Volchenkov would have been. A top-four of ...

Green - Schultz
Carlson - Alzner

Poti - Erskine
Sloan

... is pretty sick. That physical presence who can in fact play top-four minutes to keep opposing forwards 'honest', however, is still a need. Erskine can only do so much.

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Last season, the Caps had the number 1 PP in the league with Green as the PP QB and Ovechkin at the other point. Both frequently play the entire two minutes. Green is phenomenal in this role, so any PP QB the Caps acquire would not be as good as Green and as a result, not get much TOI during the PP.

If you're wondering why they acquired Corvo if they don't need a PP QB, it's because at the trade deadline they did want a second one. However, at the trade deadline, John Carlson had played less than 10 NHL games. Carlson was the PP QB of the Hershey Bears, but the Caps were reluctant to rely on an inexperienced rookie for their playoff run. Of course, Carlson ended up out-playing Corvo in the end, but that was their line of thinking.

PS Washington has plenty of cap space, so they have no need to dump salary either.
That's exactly what I've understood all along as being the Caps' situation, making all of the Kaberle rumors crazy IMO.

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Ottawa's not keeping him?
Don't have the cap space.

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Its fine they don't want a QB and all but if they ever want to do anything in the play-offs you can't play a 2 minute shift consistently.

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Was Shaone Morrisson that bad that they didn't want him as a 5th or 6th defenseman?

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Was Shaone Morrisson that bad that they didn't want him as a 5th or 6th defenseman?
They probably want to move on. Maybe he's just looking for too much money, too...

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Carlson also gave up during the play on the eventual game winner in game 7 vs MTL

anyways, WSH needs more than just another PP QB if they want to make a good run at the cup

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Cool story, but why do you need a thread to announce this? I thought that was common knowledge.

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The Caps don't need another PP QB. Teh reason they acquired Corvo was because they needed a puckmover 5on5.... as Green was the only one, and when you play the style that the caps do (the best defence is a good offence), you need a strong transition game, and adding to it always helps. They've got cap space and should problably look at a guy like Bieksa if still available.

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If Willie Mitchell was 100% healthy and on his game ... out of the available players this off-season, he would've been ideal IMO.

I don't think it's necessarily difficult to argue that Washington improved on the back end this off-season. The Caps lost ShaMo and Corvo whose minutes are replaced by Carlson / Alzner. Most would argue this is an upgrade at least from a defensive perspective (Corvo would likely put up better offensive numbers for an entire season, however Carlson will hold his own on).

While Theo did have a massive hot streak mid year, it was more a factor of the teams collective play. A full year of Varly / Neuvy should be considered an upgrade as well.

The real question mark is down the middle behind Backstrom.

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I am praying for your sake right now that you forgot the. They could have had Souray for free off of waivers if they had wanted, why in gods name would they give up Semin for him now. Terrible proposal, just terrible.

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Yeah, they need a guy that actually knows how to play defense, hence why everyone thought Volchenkov was going there before FA.
"A" guy? More like 6 guys.

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Carlson also gave up during the play on the eventual game winner in game 7 vs MTL

anyways, WSH needs more than just another PP QB if they want to make a good run at the cup
Ima defend Carlson here cuz hes my fav cap besides OV n Backstrom

Carlson didnt give up on the play he went for a open ice hit then Montreal passed the puck to the other side of the ice and Carlson couldnt turn around and get to the front of the net in time. thats from what i remember.

anyways we need someone like Regehr who is a defensive stud. but its not gonna happen GMGM will just go with

Green - Schultz
Carlson - Alzner
Poti - Erskine
Sloan

no matter how much we want a Regehr GMGM prolly wont go out of his way to get one.

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Cool story, but why do you need a thread to announce this? I thought that was common knowledge.
Because people seem to keep thinking we want or need Kaberle or Souray and the Caps are tight up against the cap. ie people are dense or dont read.

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Because people seem to keep thinking we want or need Kaberle or Souray and the Caps are tight up against the cap. ie people are dense or dont read.
I haven't seen many (any) Kaberle proposals lately. Souray makes no sense at all.

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