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07-27-2010, 12:06 PM
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Very excited about adding Jankowski & Rockstrom to the organization.

One thing I wonder though, is this just a temporary assignment for Jankowski? Going from an assistant GM/director of amateur scouting position to just an amateur scout position is definitely a lower assignment.

I'm sure he's glad to be part of such a storied franchise, but it makes me wonder if this move will be only for a year or two and then he'll move on to take a better position in another org.

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07-27-2010, 12:22 PM
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Brisebois just left, who is our asst GM at the moment? Seems to me like we don't have one, kind of wondering why he wasn't appointed to that position.

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07-27-2010, 12:24 PM
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Brisebois just left, who is our asst GM at the moment? Seems to me like we don't have one, kind of wondering why he wasn't appointed to that position.
Larry Carriere.

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07-27-2010, 12:39 PM
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Any Habs fans shortselling Jankowski are going to be proven dead wrong. Any armchair GM can do well with a top-5 pick, but Janks specialty seems to be finding studs in the later rounds. Ya'll should be very exciting about hiring this guy, he'll bring some great players into the Canadiens organization.
Montreal doesn't really have a problem with late round picks, what we need is someone who can pick a future star in the first round. Still, I'm happy to have great scouts like Jankowski and Rockstrom, when you have a big market team, these kind of hires are how you circumvent the cap.

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07-27-2010, 12:59 PM
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Let me throw out some names for you to show Jank's late-round drafting talent:

Matt Donovan (96th overall, now one of the top defensemen in the NCAA)
Matt Martin (148th overall, contending for a spot on the team next year)
Kevin Poulin (126th overall, Patrick Roy claims he'll be a great NHL goalie soon)
Anders Lee (152nd overall, USHL rookie of the year)

Picks in that range rarely develop into bonafide NHL prospects, but we've managed to snag a handful in the past couple of years.
Well you pretty much sold me. I wanted the Habs to draft him in his initial draft year instead of Patrick Johnson.

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07-27-2010, 01:49 PM
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Well you pretty much sold me. I wanted the Habs to draft him in his initial draft year instead of Patrick Johnson.
So did I,

http://www.habprospects.com/modules....owpage&pid=162

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07-27-2010, 02:04 PM
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Jankowski is a very solid pickup. I don't really care about the rest, PG knows what he's doing.

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07-27-2010, 02:07 PM
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Yes, finally someone to scout the Dub.

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07-27-2010, 02:16 PM
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Nice!
Great minds...

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07-27-2010, 02:31 PM
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Anyone know anything about Christer Rockstrom, aside from his badass name? Some of the bigger Euros the Rangers drafted under him include Lauri Korpikoski, Petr Prucha, Marek Zidlicky, Henrik Lundqvist, Kim Johnsson...not sure if he was overseeing Russia too (I doubt it) but then you have Anisimov, Grachev, Cherepanov, Tyutin....
On the rangers board they said he did oversea the Russian picks. One guy he was said to have been behind was Carl Hagelin from Sweden, he had an big year with Michigan, very speedy player.

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Yes, finally someone to scout the Dub.
Elmer Benning has been our WHL scout, so Jankowski will help him out there. If you look at the WHL/USHL/Minnesota USHS guys the NYI have picked lately, they have had some good ones. (taken from NYI board, not checked for accuracy, bolded are the picks I like)

Travis Hamonic (WHL)
Nino Niederreiter (WHL)
Blake Kessel (USHL)
Shane Sims (USHL)
Jason Gregoire (USHL)
Matt Donovan (USHL)
Kyle Okposo (USHL, MN HS)
Jason Clark (MN HS)
Anders Lee (MN HS)
Brock Nelson (MN HS)
Aaron Ness (MN HS)
David Toews (MN HS)

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07-27-2010, 03:18 PM
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Time will tell with this guy.

But to those who think Taveres i a feather in his cap... it is pretty well known that this guy was going to be a prime time player. There were news reports on him dating back to his pee wee days.

A monkey could have made that selection.

A scouts true worth is seeing talent in later selections.

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07-27-2010, 03:52 PM
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Excited by Rockstrom. I keep mentioning the Rangers when it's time to make the difference between the Russians that have interest to join the league, and the ones that don't. If Rockstrom is somehow related to knowing if guys like Grachev and Anisimov will indeed join the league, just for that I'm extremely happy.

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Don't know them, but they seem like good acquisitions with a lot of experience. Really like that Ryan Jankowski hiring. Director of amateur scouting of the Islanders the past 4 years and they have made some good picks during those years.
Been reading a lot of positive comments about him on Twitter, such as:

JeffMarek: Great scouting hire: Habs sign Ryan Jankowski (formerly w/NYI) as amateur scout. 33 minutes ago via web

But I wonder, why would Janjowski go from the director of amateur scouting with the NYI to work for Timmins?

Edit: Obviously I'm not the only one asking this question. Anyways, it sounds like we just added a very good scout to the organization, so it's all cool.


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07-27-2010, 04:23 PM
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Can't help but like a guy named Christer Rockstrom

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07-27-2010, 06:08 PM
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Let me throw out some names for you to show Jank's late-round drafting talent:

Matt Donovan (96th overall, now one of the top defensemen in the NCAA)
Matt Martin (148th overall, contending for a spot on the team next year)
Kevin Poulin (126th overall, Patrick Roy claims he'll be a great NHL goalie soon)
Anders Lee (152nd overall, USHL rookie of the year)

Picks in that range rarely develop into bonafide NHL prospects, but we've managed to snag a handful in the past couple of years.
Not to mention Travis Hamonic drafted 53rd overall.
Or David Ullstrom.
Or...

Ah forget it. Marginalize the Isles prospects all you want, you guys will be praising Jankowski come draft time next year, I promise you.

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07-27-2010, 08:52 PM
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The fact many Isles fans have invaded this thread can't be a bad thing!

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07-27-2010, 09:51 PM
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I like what I'm reading about Rockstrom and Jankowski, they seem like really key signings, upgrades over what we had. But then again thats the Habs Fan mentality, everything we do is either a massive upgrade or the biggest bust ever and why did we do it.

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The Jankowski hire has restored some faith for me in management after losing Brisebois, Boucher and the rumour of the Habs not wanting to replace the scouts they let go. I just looked at his WHL, USHL, Minnesota USHS picks from recent drafts and I'm impressed. I hope he had a lot to do with these picks:

Jank was director of amateur scouting from the 2006 draft to the 2010 for the Isles.

2006
7th Kyle Okposo RW Des Moines Buccaneers [USHL]
126th Shane Sims D Des Moines Buccaneers [USHL]

2007
76th Jason Gregoire LW Lincoln Stars [USHL]
166th Blake Kessel D Waterloo Black Hawks [USHL]

2008
40th Aaron Ness D Roseau H.S. (Minn.)
53th Travis Hamonic D Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL]
66th David Toews C Shattuck St. Mary's (Minn)
72th Jyri Niemi D Saskatoon Blades [WHL]
96th Matt Donovan D Cedar Rapids RoughRiders [USHL]
156th Jared Spurgeon D Spokane Chiefs [WHL]

2009
152th Anders Lee C Edina H.S. (Minn.)

2010
5th Nino Niederreiter W Portland Winterhawks [WHL]
30th Brock Nelson C Warroad H.S. [Minn.]
82th Jason Clark W Shattuck St. Mary's [Minn.]

Aside from Okposo and Niederreiter the rest of those picks are players that were around when we usually pick. Most of those prospects are doing pretty well in their respective leagues. I think he and Timmins will work well together. Both seem to be young very good amateur scouting minds (albeit many will differ about the good part for TT).

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07-27-2010, 10:16 PM
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A lot of people cried when Gauthier fired a bunch of Habs scouts. Now he replaces them with some of the best in the business.

Detroit is the best example of a consistent team and they have an organization that is strong from top to bottom. You can't just worry about the players on the ice, off ice personnel mean a lot too.

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A lot of people cried when Gauthier fired a bunch of Habs scouts. Now he replaces them with some of the best in the business.

Detroit is the best example of a consistent team and they have an organization that is strong from top to bottom. You can't just worry about the players on the ice, off ice personnel mean a lot too.
The Best in the business? really? I wouldn't have thought they were THAT good. What about the Rockstrom guy, and the other dudes that we signed? Any news on them?

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Not that it will make a difference but I just want to point out that Jankowski was neither fired nor did he resign from his position. His contract expired and the Islanders didn't renew. We don't really know why, but then again we also don't really know exactly how much of our system is his responsibility.

If it makes you all feel any better the day it was (sort of) announced that Jankowski was not going to be brought back, the Islanders board exploded with fans jumping off the proverbial bridge.


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What I like about the moves Gauthier is doing is that he is surrounding himself with experience.

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The Best in the business? really? I wouldn't have thought they were THAT good. What about the Rockstrom guy, and the other dudes that we signed? Any news on them?
He scouted Lidstrom, Bure, Fedorov, and Konstantinov. But the league screwed over detroit with bure

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07-27-2010, 10:32 PM
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Not that it will make a difference but I just want to point out that Jankowski was neither fired nor did he resign from his position. His contract expired and the Islanders didn't renew. We don't really know why, but then again we also don't really know exactly how much of our system is his responsibility.

If it makes you all feel any better the day it was announced (sort of) that Jankowski was not going to be brought back, the Islanders board exploded with fans jumping off the proverbial bridge.
Am I a bad person if I say that makes me feel better ? lol

And I really appreciate all the Isles fans coming on here telling us info about him, being really classy, I appreciated guys!.

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Good foundation. To be honest, I would like another advisor near Gainey such as Scotty Bowman to Detroit and Chicago. Experience doesn't hurt.

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