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05-28-2004, 03:43 AM
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Lecavalier has more size and skill than both; but at this point is too inconsistent to be considered a mega star. Iginla is a mega star, and so is St.Louis. Potentially, Levacalier could be the best of them.
I would imagine most GM's or coaches in this league would choose Iginla over Lecavalier or St.Louis at this point. Reasons:

Iginla is a very solid all around player with no real weakness to his game, and has what it takes to be a good leader. This is a great style of player to build any team around. Can be good defensively.

St.Louis is faster, stickhandles better, reads the ice as well and is likely a better goal scorer than Iginla. His size alone would be the only issue, and unfortunately that actually means something in the NHL. Excellent defensively.

Lecavalier is the most talented of the three, has great ice vision, is weaker defensively, has to learn to use his body more. Fantastic playmaker and shows a lot of untapped skill. If he can get his head in order, Lecavalier should surpass both Iginla and St.Louis. But that's a fairly major if.

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I would imagine most GM's or coaches in this league would choose Iginla over Lecavalier or St.Louis at this point. Reasons:

Iginla is a very solid all around player with no real weakness to his game, and has what it takes to be a good leader. This is a great style of player to build any team around. Can be good defensively.

St.Louis is faster, stickhandles better, reads the ice as well and is likely a better goal scorer than Iginla. His size alone would be the only issue, and unfortunately that actually means something in the NHL. Excellent defensively.

Lecavalier is the most talented of the three, has great ice vision, is weaker defensively, has to learn to use his body more. Fantastic playmaker and shows a lot of untapped skill. If he can get his head in order, Lecavalier should surpass both Iginla and St.Louis. But that's a fairly major if.
not that big of an if... what a matter of when...


it will happen just a matter of time! Last nights game and in fact this entire season has been an indication of a more consistent vinny. He plays better with adversity and pressure...

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not that big of an if... what a matter of when...


it will happen just a matter of time! Last nights game and in fact this entire season has been an indication of a more consistent vinny. He plays better with adversity and pressure...
Like you said, lasts nights game was a huge step forward for lecavalier, and what a pleasure to watch. The thing is, as a Canucks fan I've followed a player who was expected to achieve great things, and for the most part has always fallen short. The reason for his continued failure is his mind. Though Bertuzzi and Lecavalier are different kinds of players, and Vinny may have had a little more expected of him, both seem to struggle with getting their heads straight. I've seen Bertuzzi step it up in big games as Vinny did last night, but only to sink just as deep again with lazy penalties to say nothing of his other on ice antics.

I'd really like to see Lecavalier reach his potential, and here's to hoping game 2 was a level he won't step down from.

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So far through the two games, BOTH temas are putting out the cheap shots. It is nopt just 1 team right now...

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More props need to be given to Brad Richards. He's proven clutch in these playoffs; just check out his game winners.

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richards should be one of the 3

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Iginla - Megastar
Lecavalier - Superstar
St. Louis - Star



How can St. Louis be a *star*? He's the first scorer in the season and playoffs.

St. Louis - Megastar
Iginla - Megastar
Lecavalier - Superstar, futur Megastar

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Just to clear this up, none of the 3 are megastars yet.

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vinny made the nicest play of the year...this guy is just oooooozing with talent.

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richards should be one of the 3
Totally agreed. For me, it's Iginla, Richards, and Lecavalier.

Marty St.Louis is a nice little player who could play on anybody's 1st line, but he didn't really impose himself in these playoffs in my view. He looked mostly like a complementary player, not greatly different in impact than guys like Modin and Fedotenko overall. Add in the two goalies, and there's 5 guys I'd say who were more impressive to me than St.Louis.

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I'd rather have Iginla over St.Louis and Lecavalier.

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Well seeing as the question at the start of the thread relates to the future and therefore it is pure guesswork I am going to say Lecavalier is going to be better than both of them...and gretzky too. (Hey come find me when his career is done and I am wrong).

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St.Louis is already in his prime. Lecavalier and Richards are the present, and the future of the Lightning as far as I'm concerned.

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Props to Patrick Marleau, who everyone has seem to forgot!

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A stay at home defenseman will never be characterized as a mega-star, but Robyn Regher served notice that he will be clearing the net and dominating the corners for a good long time.

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Still no respect for Brad Richards. I have seen a few people mention him in this thread, but how can he not be included in everyone's post?? Watch him play. Who does he remind you of?? A young Joe Sakic and correct me if I am wrong, but I do beleive that Joe Sakic was a superstar in this league for many years. After this run, he will be a top 5 scorer in the NHL when there is a next year.
Come on people, you think he won the Conn Smythe for nothing!!
Give the guy some respect here. He is a clutch player. The first player in history to win both the Memorial Cup MVP and the Conn Smythe!! That has to say something!

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06-08-2004, 11:43 AM
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Richards is a low key guy,a quiet leader,perhaps that's why he's not getting the
respect he deserves. He's only 24,I think he certainly must be one of the best
24 year olds in the league or even say 25 and unders.

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When all is said and done, which of the 3 players do you believe will achieve the most in their career and be seen as the best forward of the group after all of them have retired?
Lecavalier. I think this experience is what he really needed and that this will help him tremendously in the future.

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Lecavalier. I think this experience is what he really needed and that this will help him tremendously in the future.
Agree.

The play he made on the Fedotenko goal was nothing short of world-class. And while he clearly found it hard to score in the Finals (as did most everyone else), he saved his best for last, when it absoultely mattered most.

His game last night reminded one of #66 circa ''91-'92 playoffs. Don't get me wrong. Mario did it nightly, this was one evening. But the size, speed and skill is quite impressive.

Plus, importantly, both Tortorella and player deserve major credit (just as they deserved some questioning over the last couple of years) for working out their differences, at least on the ice. Tortorella, apparently, was told by management to work it out. He did. And Vinny expanded his game. He gets his nose dirty and as such is now much more than "a scorer", he is a player. He contributes mightily even when held off the stat sheet, evidenced by these playoffs. Good for him, good for the coach...and obviously, not bad for the team either, eh?

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OT: Gretzy/Messier. Mario/Francis. Sakic/Forsberg. Yzerman/Fedorov. There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but a quick review of Cup winners, both recent and otherwise, shows a trend of having superb 1-2 punch down the middle offensively. That is, the offense of each of the aforementioned teams, as well as others, originates with their top two centers.

As such, TB could be sitting pretty, as Lecavalier/Richards is one sweet, successful duo.


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where is Richards in those 3?

he has finished 62/62/72/79 points in his first 4 NHL seasons.........

Plus a Conn Smythe??? and playoff GWG record of 7?


Iggy is the best player of all, Vinny is flashy, but not as effective physically.

i agree with Pierre Mcguire's point of Messier-like quality in Iggy.


TB as a team will be unbelievable for the next 5 years, even if they have no more young players coming around for them!

St. Louis is the oldest of the bunch at 28, out of Vin/Richards/Fedo/Modin/Sarich/Kubina.. with support cast of Stillman, dingman, etc.. and if they can keep Bulin wall for another 3 year.... TB should be a fixture out of the Southeast division champion and compete out of top 3 playoff spots each year.

Great offensive with very very solid Goaltending = long time playoff competitor.

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