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07-28-2010, 09:23 PM
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Boogaard OVER. for sure. what's wrong with you people?

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07-28-2010, 09:33 PM
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Don't forget Redden! Over for sure.

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07-28-2010, 09:40 PM
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Boogaard OVER. for sure. what's wrong with you people?
Its hard to go under when your goal production is 0

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07-28-2010, 09:57 PM
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Gaborik - 89 (over)
Frolov -70 (over)
Prospal - 60 (over)
Dubinsky- 65 (over) <----break out season
Drury - 44 (under)
Anisimov - 50 (ovder)
Aasen - 42 (under)
Callahan - 50(25 goals) ( over)
Christensen - 54(over)

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07-28-2010, 10:02 PM
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07-28-2010, 10:06 PM
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Gaborik - 89 (over)
Frolov -70 (over)
Prospal - 60 (over)
Dubinsky- 65 (over) <----break out season
Drury - 44 (under)
Anisimov - 50 (ovder)
Aasen - 42 (under)
Callahan - 50(25 goals) ( over)
Christensen - 54(over)
I admire your optimism but I don't see the Rangers having 7 50+ point forwards next year. In fact, last season, only 3 teams had 6, and the majority had less than 4.

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07-28-2010, 11:13 PM
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Not gonna make projections just yet. just gonna say over or under

Gaborik - (over)
Frolov -(over)

Prospal - (under)
Dubinsky- (over)
Drury - (under)
Anisimov - (over)
Aasen - (under)
Callahan - ( under)
Christensen - (under)

outside of Gabby i think the "overs" are going to really be "just barely overs"

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07-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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Gaborik - 79 (over, based on the assumption he'll only play 60-70 games since he can't stay healthy)
Frolov -66 (over)
Prospal - 51 (over)
Dubinsky- 55 (over)
Drury - 43 (under)
Anisimov - 42 (under)
Aasen - 39 (under)
Callahan - 46 ( under)
Christensen - 44 (under)


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07-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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i'll give projecting a shot, but i have a feeling mza will put up better numbers than most of you think he will.

gaborik- 83
frolov- 67
prospal-62
dubinsky-53
drury-41
anisimov-46
callahan-44
MZA- 58
Echrist-42

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07-28-2010, 11:54 PM
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Over or under 50 points for the following players:


Gaborik - 87 (over)
Frolov -65 (over)
Prospal - 53 (over)
Dubinsky- 51 (over)
Drury - 51 (over)
Anisimov - 44 (under)
Aasen - 42 (under)
Callahan - 40 ( under)
Christensen - 36 (under)

Gaborik - Over - 85
Frolov - Over - 60
Prospal - Under - 45-50
Dubinsky - Over - 50-55
Drury - Under - 35
Anisimov - Under - 40
Aasen - Under - 35
Callahan - Under - 40
Christensen - Under - 40

3 Overs and 6 Unders.


I would be extremely surprised (and happy) if Del Zotto hits 50. I'll say he hits 40.

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07-29-2010, 01:03 AM
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Gaborik - Over - 85
Frolov - Over - 60
Prospal - Over - 50
Dubinsky - Over - 55
Drury - Under - 45
Anisimov - Under - 45
Aasen - Under - 35
Callahan - Under - 45
Christensen - Over - 50

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07-29-2010, 01:09 AM
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Gaborik - Over (45G, 40A)
Anisimov - Barely Under (17G, 30A)
Dubinsky - Barely Over (22G, 30A)
Prospal - Barely Under (15G, 30A)
Frolov - Over (27G, 27A)
Callahan - Barely Over (25G, 27A)
Drury - Under (20G, 20A)
EC - Under (15G, 25A)
Aasen - Barely Under (15G, 30A)

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07-29-2010, 01:49 AM
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Gaborik - Under
Frolov - Under
Prospal - Under
Dubinsky - Under
Drury - Under
Anisimov - Under
Aasen - Under
Callahan - Under
Christensen - WAY over

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07-29-2010, 01:53 AM
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I admire your optimism but I don't see the Rangers having 7 50+ point forwards next year. In fact, last season, only 3 teams had 6, and the majority had less than 4.

Yeah only 5 teams had 5 or more forwards score 50 or more points. Hawks and Thrashers had 4 forwards + 1 defensman. Caps were the only team with 7 players (6 forwards and 1 defensman). I understand that some of our overs could be 'barely' overs but having 5 or more is crazy. At best we'll have 4 ... most likely 3. We will have few guys in 35-45 range however.

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07-29-2010, 02:01 AM
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Yeah only 5 teams had 5 or more forwards score 50 or more points. Hawks and Thrashers had 4 forwards + 1 defensman. Caps were the only team with 7 players (6 forwards and 1 defensman). I understand that some of our overs could be 'barely' overs but having 5 or more is crazy. At best we'll have 4 ... most likely 3. We will have few guys in 35-45 range however.
In the Jagr era we had quite a few. Jagr, Straka, Nylander, Rucinksy,Prucha(had 47 points in 68 games) Sykora, although being a trade pickup.

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07-29-2010, 02:05 AM
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Gaborik - 90 (over)
Frolov -68 (over)
Prospal - 52 (over)
Dubinsky- 61 (over)
Drury - 52 (over)
Anisimov - 53 (over)
Aasen - 45 (under)
Callahan - 47 ( under)
Christensen - 43 (under)

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07-29-2010, 03:21 AM
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Gaborik - Over - 51 (Gaborik will miss 43 games)
Frolov - Over - 51
Prospal - Under - 39
Dubinsky - Over - 55
Drury - Under - 34
Anisimov - Under - 48
Aasen - Under - 40
Callahan - Under - 46
Christensen - Under - 29

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07-29-2010, 05:29 AM
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I admire your optimism but I don't see the Rangers having 7 50+ point forwards next year. In fact, last season, only 3 teams had 6, and the majority had less than 4.
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wow.. I did not realize that only 3 teams had only (6) 50 point players and the majority had (4)... This helps to realize that the Rangers do have enough talent to compete and win.

Gaborik- 85 points
Frolov - 65 points
Prospal- 51 points
Dubinsky 55 points
Drury- 54 points
Christensen- 48 points (if he plays top 6 minutes)
AA- 38 points
MZA 35 points
Callahan- 42 points
Avery 41 points (if healthy)

This is a good roster....

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07-29-2010, 08:27 AM
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The way some of you guys are predicting, its like you forgot that this team was anemic in the goal scoring department. Getting the big scoring outputs (5+ goals) on a consistent basis is what drives up everyones point totals. Last year getting goals was like pulling teeth with this team.

Doing the math, our top 9 forwards for last year had 364 points. This included Gaborik, Prospal, Dubi, Callahan, Drury, Anisimov, Avery, Christensen, and Kotalik. The last two only played a combined 94 games while everyone else was in the lineup a normal amount. So lets say EC and Kotalik had played 150 games giving them an extra 56 games. Based on their productivity that equates to about 30 extra points. That leaves you with 394 points.

Some of you guys have predictions with 500-550 points. I think we should be a little more realistic.

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07-29-2010, 08:48 AM
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I think a lot will depend on the lines. Whoever plays with Gaborik will typically get more points as we saw with Prospal last season.

So I'm going to make projections with lines in mind:

Frolov(27G,37A-64 Pts) - Anisimov(16G,33A-49 Pts) - Gaborik(45G,39A-84Pts)
MZA(16G,26A-42 Pts) - Dubinsky(23G,24A-47 Pts) - Callahan(26G,21A-47Pts)
Prospal(15G,23A-38Pts) - Drury(17G,23A-40 Pts) - Avery(16G,21A-37Pts)
Boogaard(2G,4A-6Pts) - Christensen(10G,16A-26 Pts) - Prust(9G,11A-20Pts)
Boyle(3G,3A-6pts)

These are the lines I see us going with for most of the season. I'm sure Torts will change them around a bit, but I think these lines are realistic. Anisimov should click with Frolov and the two of them will open up a lot of space for Gaborik while also finishing the rebounds from Gaborik's deadly shot. I think that Prospal will have one of his off seasons again but will do very well in helping the 3rd line find some consistent scoring. I think that Christensen and Boyle will interchange as the 4th line Centers...Boyle in when we need more size(like against Philly), Christensen in when we need more speed. Christensen might also get some PP time due to injuries, so I do think his assist total will be decent.

This team can possibly make the playoffs, but will probably not go very far again. The lack of a true #1 Center will remain an issue. Our D is still young and learning.

MSG the place to be pointed out that we had about 394 points from our top 9 last season. My top 9 will provide 448 points. I don't think its too unrealistic to expect that...we are adding Frolov and MZA while Anisimov, Dubinsky and Callahan should be able to put up a few more points.


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07-29-2010, 09:15 AM
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If this team has upwards of 5 or even 6 50pt players as some of you are predicting we will easily be a playoff team. IMO we are being very/ridiculously optimistic!

IMO in order for Drury, Callahan, Anisimov, Christensen or MZA to make a serious run at 50 points they would need consistent top 6 minutes and PP time. I think they will get some, I'm just not sure it will be consistent enough for 50ts.

Gaborik, Frolov, and Dubinsky IMO should all be 50pt players, with Prospal next on the list. Maybe 4 IMO. That would be double last year, Gaborik 86, Prospal 58. Dubinsky was on pace for 50 if he played a full year. Jokinen does not count.

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If this team has upwards of 5 or even 6 50pt players as some of you are predicting we will easily be a playoff team. IMO we are being very/ridiculously optimistic!

IMO in order for Drury, Callahan, Anisimov, Christensen or MZA to make a serious run at 50 points they would need consistent top 6 minutes and PP time. I think they will get some, I'm just not sure it will be consistent enough for 50ts.

Gaborik, Frolov, and Dubinsky
IMO should all be 50pt players, with Prospal next on the list. Maybe 4 IMO. That would be double last year, Gaborik 86, Prospal 58. Dubinsky was on pace for 50 if he played a full year. Jokinen does not count.
That's what I would expect. I think it's too optimistic to expect anymore, although Prospal could make a run at 50.

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prospals slump pattern is more relieable than the madden curse

the guy's not getting 50 points

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I admire your optimism but I don't see the Rangers having 7 50+ point forwards next year. In fact, last season, only 3 teams had 6, and the majority had less than 4.
We can do it man. IMO The lack of offence will force people to step up.


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Some of the predictions here are way off. There was only one team last year with seven 50 point scorers (Washington). There was two teams last year with six 50 point scorers (Vancouver, San Jose). There was only four teams with five 50 point scorers (Atlanta (not including Kovalchuk), Chicago, Columbus, LA). That means that 23 out of the 30 teams had four 50 point scorers or less (average was 3.3 per team).

Based on that, I'd say we'd be pretty lucky to get four/five. Barring injuries I see it like this:

Locks:
Gaborik: Over
Frolov: Over
Drury: Under
Callahan: Under
Dubinsky: Over

Wild Cards:
MZA
Prospal
Anisimov
Christensen

Of those 4, I'd say that 1, maybe two of them will hit 50. A lot depends on who is playing with Gaborik. If Christensen and Prospal are both with Gaborik, I could easily see them getting 50+. Depending on where Anisimov plays most of the season, I could see him breaking out with 50-60 points, although I think that possibility is low. The real wild card is MZA. I can see him being on the second line and tearing it up to right around 50 points, and I could also see him not making the team out of camp and being a mid-season call up.

If I had to guess, I'd say:
Prospal: Over
Christensen: Under (I see him being around 45 points)
Anisimov: Under (I see him ~45-55 points, more likely being 45)
MZA: Under (40 points, but he's a complete guess. I have no idea what to expect from him).

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