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06-22-2011, 06:33 PM
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Sam Gagner is redundant on the Winnipeg team. No thank you.
Redundant? Who does he mirror on our current roster?

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EDM could also package Souray into the deal so they save $$ at the same time. WPG could use another dman on a one year deal.
This is nonsense. WPG doesn't need Souray whatsoever.

And I don't think a 2nd line C and some lower picks is worth giving up the potential for top-end talent at that position.

WPG won't trade #7 unless something really awesome comes back.

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06-22-2011, 06:35 PM
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EDM could also package Souray into the deal so they save $$ at the same time. WPG could use another dman on a one year deal.
Now you just sound like an Oilers fan

IMHO Winnipeg doesn't trade the 7th pick unless someone gives us something very substantial back.

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Redundant? Who does he mirror on our current roster?
Bryan Little. Gagner isn't a #1 center, will never be. Atlanta already has Little/Burmistrov as capable second line C's.


Edit: Lol@Atlanta... *cough* Winnipeg.

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Bryan Little. Gagner isn't a #1 center, will never be. Atlanta already has Little/Burmistrov as capable second line C's.
I think you are wrong about Gagner.

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I think you are wrong about Gagner.
I think I'm right. *shrug*

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Bryan Little. Gagner isn't a #1 center, will never be. Atlanta already has Little/Burmistrov as capable second line C's.


Edit: Lol@Atlanta... *cough* Winnipeg.
Oh I will NOT let you live that one down!

Btw, Bryan Little is getting criminally underrated around here. A lot of you are going to be suprised by what you see from him.


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Oh I will NOT let you live that one down!
I guess it still hasn't really hit me yet

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06-22-2011, 07:09 PM
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Many of u are expecting the #7 pick to be exceptional. Trading the pick for a quality young player and other first rounders sounds like a good hedge bet for any gm. I would prefer to have 4 solid lines and depth for the playoffs rather than 2 superstars.

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Many of u are expecting the #7 pick to be exceptional. Trading the pick for a quality young player and other first rounders sounds like a good hedge bet for any gm. I would prefer to have 4 solid lines and depth for the playoffs rather than 2 superstars.
Change Ganger to Paararvi or Eberle then

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I guess it still hasn't really hit me yet
Same.

Nah, but for real, for the last time, we are FINE with Centers. We need a RW that can score on the top 6 the most.

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06-22-2011, 07:41 PM
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Same.

Nah, but for real, for the last time, we are FINE with Centers. We need a RW that can score on the top 6 the most.
And for the last time, RW'ers that can score aren't nearly as important as a top line center.

But Gagner? Not a top line center.

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06-22-2011, 07:48 PM
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Change Ganger to Paararvi or Eberle then
Just came here to post that the # 7 doesn't go to Edmonton unless Paajarvi is coming to Winnipeg.

Getting the 2 extra picks would be nice, but I'm sure if need be, a deal can be made with someone for a 2nd rounder and who knows, maybe even a late 1st.

Maybe Burke gets an itchy trigger finger and deals #30 for Stewart haha.

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And for the last time, RW'ers that can score aren't nearly as important as a top line center.

But Gagner? Not a top line center.
And I'm OK with our top line center as is, while I'm not OK with our top-6 RW.

If we get a better top-line center, will I be happy? Sure, of course. Will I be happier if we were to instead get a top-6 RW? You bet. If we got both? Then we're both ecstatic.

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Gagner is probably better suited at RW anyway.

Win-win.

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Gagner is probably better suited at RW anyway.

Win-win.
.. eh. There's not guarantee he could make a smooth transition there.. + he's definitely not gonna be a goal scoring winger.

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I think Gagner could be a nice fit if he can develop his skating and defensive skills, but the chances of that happening seem to be slim. He's young, but his developmental curve has turned downward from his rookie year instead of upward.

I wouldn't give up what it would take to acquire him from Edmonton. I'd rather they draft Armia than trade the 7th for Gagner, who may never be anything more than a borderline 2nd line player.

They could also just sign Hemsky next offseason instead.

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06-22-2011, 09:16 PM
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to WPG:
C Sam Gagner
#19 overall
#31 overall

to EDM:
#7 overall
4th round pick
5th round pick
Change Gagner to Eberle and Winnipeg will think long and hard about it.

Gagner is not needed with Little, Burmistrov and Antropov already on the team as capable top 6 centers.

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06-22-2011, 09:22 PM
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Would love to see Upshall on our third line with Antropov and Machacek.

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No candy coming from Winnipeg! Gagner is not needed here.

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Many of u are expecting the #7 pick to be exceptional. Trading the pick for a quality young player and other first rounders sounds like a good hedge bet for any gm. I would prefer to have 4 solid lines and depth for the playoffs rather than 2 superstars.
The Pens and their 08-09 Cup rings say hello.

It's not a bad hedge bet, pcanuck, but this is a poor time for hedging bets. Far smarter for WPG to try and acquire top-line talent (i.e. a goalscoring centre) with that high pick. Trading #7 would make more sense in a scenario where Zibanejad, Strome and Sean Couturier are all off the board. If there's none of the best centremen are available, seeking a trade for a 1st rounder in the 12-16 range and a 2nd rounder (which we don't have) seems more shrewd to me.

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The Pens and their 08-09 Cup rings say hello.
That's a bit of an extreme example. I could just as easily point to Boston over Vancouver and say "depth up front trumps 2 high scorers". Anyway, Malkin and Crosby were 1 and 2 in the world at the time. I don't think this team will ever have the two best players in the world on their team at the same time. I don't think any team will, other than Pittsburgh if Malkin can recover.

I would trade #7 for a good, young player, but Gagner isn't that player. He's put up relatively modest numbers, albeit on a weaker team, and has looked like nothing more than a borderline, one dimensional 2nd line player. His developmental curve has also gone backward instead of forwards.

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That's a bit of an extreme example. I could just as easily point to Boston over Vancouver and say "depth up front trumps 2 high scorers". Anyway, Malkin and Crosby were 1 and 2 in the world at the time. I don't think this team will ever have the two best players in the world on their team at the same time. I don't think any team will, other than Pittsburgh if Malkin can recover.

I would trade #7 for a good, young player, but Gagner isn't that player. He's put up relatively modest numbers, albeit on a weaker team, and has looked like nothing more than a borderline, one dimensional 2nd line player. His developmental curve has also gone backward instead of forwards.
They have the potential depth right now for the most part in place. Kane, Ladd, Wheeler, Little and Burmi is a great start... they need a top end scorer now.

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They have the potential depth right now for the most part in place. Kane, Ladd, Wheeler, Little and Burmi is a great start... they need a top end scorer now.
I agree.

The question is, how do they acquire said scorer? Maybe throw an offer at Richards? Try and get a Paul Stastny here? I believe they have the assets to acquire a scorer via trade, I question the willingness to give up said assets, though.

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