No. Caveat: I'll admit that I'm probably the biggest Silva homer you'll find. If he dances and clowns around in this fight, you've got an argument. But that's simply not going to happen, because A) I honestly think he did that in fights in the past because he was bored and was making a point, and B) He is actually seriously pissed off this time. Sonnen is a dead man. If I'm wrong I'll eat my words but I am 99% sure I'm correct.
According to Silva, he was more upset with Maia. I hope its a fight, but I wont be surprised if it isnt another gong show. I think Sonnen has a good chance to win the fight. He will most likely make it out of the first round. Silva is a slow starter, and usually uses most of the first round to get his timing down and feel the opponent out.
I know Anthony Johnson walks at 220 lbs and a 50 pound drop is ridiculous, but did he ever miss the weight limit? And does anybody knows when the heck we're suppose to see this guy fight again?
Anthony Johnson has missed weight a couple of times. It wasn't just a pound or two either. He came in 6 or 7 pounds over the limit. He did an interview not too long ago and he said his next fight might be at 185. No idea when he's fighting next. I remember he had to pull out of a fight because of injury so he might still be recovering.
I think Thiago should move up as well. He's big enough to fight in that division and he won't have to cut so much. Also, unlike the WW division there aren't many great wrestlers at MW. In the WW division he'll have to go through guys like GSP, Koscheck, Shields, and Fitch. All four of those guys are great wrestlers. I think MW would be a lot better for him and his skill set.
No. Caveat: I'll admit that I'm probably the biggest Silva homer you'll find. If he dances and clowns around in this fight, you've got an argument. But that's simply not going to happen, because A) I honestly think he did that in fights in the past because he was bored and was making a point, and B) He is actually seriously pissed off this time. Sonnen is a dead man. If I'm wrong I'll eat my words but I am 99% sure I'm correct.
I could see him clown around in this fight just to throw it in Dana and Sonnen's faces. He's mad now, but he could still be bored if Chael doesn't provide a challenge for him.
I could see him clown around in this fight just to throw it in Dana and Sonnen's faces. He's mad now, but he could still be bored if Chael doesn't provide a challenge for him.
Then the clown will be cut tomorrow. After watching the weigh ins I hope Sonnen gets him to ground and splits the cocky **** wide open.
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title) (5 points)
Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch (2 points) Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
PRELIMINARY CARD (1 point) Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story Phil Davis vs. Rodney Wallace
Tim Boetsch vs. Todd Brown
Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks
Christian Morecraft vs. Stefan Struve
Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
Then the clown will be cut tomorrow. After watching the weigh ins I hope Sonnen gets him to ground and splits the cocky **** wide open.
At least the guy walks the walk.
Meanwhile, that other DB insults about everyone on the face of the earth for no apparent reason and you cheer for that guy? Sonnen rubs me the wrong way and I hope he gets a beating.
Meanwhile, that other DB insults about everyone on the face of the earth for no apparent reason and you cheer for that guy? Sonnen rubs me the wrong way and I hope he gets a beating.
I do not like either, but if Sonnen wins, we will actually see an entertaining fight when he defends. If Silva wins, we go back to the same old Silva being a ********* in the cage.
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title) (5 points) Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch (2 points) Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida
Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes
Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
PRELIMINARY CARD (1 point) Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story Phil Davis vs. Rodney Wallace Tim Boetsch vs. Todd Brown
Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks Christian Morecraft vs. Stefan Struve
Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
I put a 5-fight Parlay bet on CentSports with Sonnen, Nelson, Hazelett, Dos Anjos, and Hughes... 10 cent bet, for a possible winning of 9.89.
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title) (5 points)
Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch (2 points) Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
PRELIMINARY CARD (1 point) Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story Phil Davis vs. Rodney Wallace Tim Boetsch vs. Todd Brown
Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks
Christian Morecraft vs. Stefan Struve
Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
I'm going to leave my pick as Fitch, but I kind of question him to win a decision the more I think about it. He always starts slow, so he'll probably give up the first round. By the time the 3rd round hits, Alves should have shaken off any ring rust and will have a shot. It'll probably go down Alves 1st round, Fitch 2nd round, split judges 3rd round. Controversial split decision coming up!
MAIN CARD
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title) (5 points) Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch (2 points) Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida
Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
PRELIMINARY CARD (1 point)
Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story Phil Davis vs. Rodney Wallace Tim Boetsch vs. Todd Brown
Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks
Christian Morecraft vs. Stefan Struve
Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
I think Thiago should move up as well. He's big enough to fight in that division and he won't have to cut so much. Also, unlike the WW division there aren't many great wrestlers at MW. In the WW division he'll have to go through guys like GSP, Koscheck, Shields, and Fitch. All four of those guys are great wrestlers. I think MW would be a lot better for him and his skill set.
Thiago would be a tiny middleweight. Probably the smallest guy currently in the middleweight division and unlike some guys like Anthony Johnson Alves cant really add much more weight with his frame.
And on the topic of those wrestlers he could get away from. he already destroyed Koscheck he fights Fitch tonight so who knows there. Shields also fights at middleweight so he really wouldn't be getting away from him and Sonnen is as good of a wrestler as anyone on that list other than maybe GSP.
Anthony Johnson has missed weight a couple of times. It wasn't just a pound or two either. He came in 6 or 7 pounds over the limit. He did an interview not too long ago and he said his next fight might be at 185. No idea when he's fighting next. I remember he had to pull out of a fight because of injury so he might still be recovering.
I think Thiago should move up as well. He's big enough to fight in that division and he won't have to cut so much. Also, unlike the WW division there aren't many great wrestlers at MW. In the WW division he'll have to go through guys like GSP, Koscheck, Shields, and Fitch. All four of those guys are great wrestlers. I think MW would be a lot better for him and his skill set.
Thiago at MW wouldn't work. Even though he is a big guy, he isn't very tall and his reach is really short, even for a WW. He wouldn't be able to fight the way he fights in the MW division because of that. If anything, Thiago should diet and try losing some weight so the cut is easier on him, instead of walking around at the size he does.
I do not like either, but if Sonnen wins, we will actually see an entertaining fight when he defends. If Silva wins, we go back to the same old Silva being a ********* in the cage.
Silva wouldn't mess around in the cage if Dana didn't make him fight guys who had no place in the ring with him. He wants to fight the best, but once it's proven he's on another level, he goofs off and hits Dana where it hurts: his wallet.
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If Silva wins and faces Belfort, no way will that be boring.
Seriously, it's not like he's never been in an exciting fight.
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Silva wouldn't mess around in the cage if Dana didn't make him fight guys who had no place in the ring with him. He wants to fight the best, but once it's proven he's on another level, he goofs off and hits Dana where it hurts: his wallet.
I can stomach Dana even less than Silva but what exactly is the UFC supposed to do? Silva just happens to fall in the weakest division right now (IMO). It's not like they're feeding him Maia, Cote, Leites, etc. while holding on to a prime Henderson, Mousasi or Belfort for the sake of it. Silva missed the first two scheduled fights against Belfort due to injury and Belfort missed the next one due to his injury. Silva's not the only MMA champion that's ever run roughshod through a division but he's the only one that seems to always fall back on this excuse.
If Silva wanted to move up to Light Heavyweight and go for that belt as well - his natural weight class - and Dana wouldn't let him, I'd understand the angst. But unless I missed it, I haven't seen that to be the case, although neither Dana or Silva/Soares seem to enjoy telling the truth so it's probably hard to tell either way. From what I can tell, Silva didn't want to have to fight Machida and he had the belt at the time.
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So if anyone does somehow find a stream (I know Dana put a stop to justin.tv) could you please message me. I won't let anyone else know..but would like to watch it and can't get to a bar tonight.
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I can stomach Dana even less than Silva but what exactly is the UFC supposed to do? Silva just happens to fall in the weakest division right now (IMO). It's not like they're feeding him Maia, Cote, Leites, etc. while holding on to a prime Henderson, Mousasi or Belfort for the sake of it. Silva missed the first two scheduled fights against Belfort due to injury and Belfort missed the next one due to his injury. Silva's not the only MMA champion that's ever run roughshod through a division but he's the only one that seems to always fall back on this excuse.
If Silva wanted to move up to Light Heavyweight and go for that belt as well - his natural weight class - and Dana wouldn't let him, I'd understand the angst. But unless I missed it, I haven't seen that to be the case, although neither Dana or Silva/Soares seem to enjoy telling the truth so it's probably hard to tell either way. From what I can tell, Silva didn't want to have to fight Machida and he had the belt at the time.
If Roy Jones Jr ever agreed to an MMA bout like Silva said, this is solely on Dana's shoulders. He can't provide worthy competition and 30 second KOs are also boring, it'd be the same result. At least this way, he has people pissed at Silva instead of having them pissed at the UFC's weak MW division.
If Roy Jones Jr ever agreed to an MMA bout like Silva said, this is solely on Dana's shoulders. He can't provide worthy competition and 30 second KOs are also boring, it'd be the same result. At least this way, he has people pissed at Silva instead of having them pissed at the UFC's weak MW division.
Silva/Soares' word is worth about as much as Dana's....close to nothing. I remember after that Silva vs. Jones agree to MMA bout, Silva's camp said they'd agreed to a deal for Silva to fight Jones in a boxing match too after his UFC 4 fight contract was up...and the he re-upped his contract with the UFC. Is anyone still interested in seeing a Silva v. Jones matchup anyway? I'd understand if Silva wanted to fight Rashad Evans or something and Dana said no but a washed up boxer that's just looking to make a buck? Silva said last year he wanted to fight at heavyweight and now says he wants to stay at MW. If he's acting off because of the talent he's facing, he sure does a good job contradicting himself, much like Dana does.
I understand criticizing Dana for not acquiring the MW talent for Silva to fight if it were out there but it's a weak division everywhere, not just in the UFC, for competition for Anderson. He's already been fed all the best MWs. It's not Dana's fault there's no other talent out there -- at least on Silva's level -- to compete. Other than Gegard Mousasi - who's been at 205 for a year - or possibly Jake Shields who's starting at 170 in the UFC, there's no one else to go out and try to acquire for him to fight.
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