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08-03-2010, 06:21 PM
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Without Kelly our PK goes from meh to oh god no.
As stated above, 8th overall last year is hardly meh...

The thing people need to account for is injuries. Guys will be injured early and often and this depth will be tested.

The only guy I'm not thrilled with is Shannon. I've seen this guy in the gym and he is very small, in general and not just for a hockey player. Other than that it's business as usual for me.

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08-03-2010, 07:34 PM
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Rumor is that Forsberg may be going to the Leafs, would make total sense considering their centerman issues and Burke's ever desire to add contracts till he hits the max number.

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08-03-2010, 07:37 PM
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If he is healthy which will be a huge gigantic if... but if he is and plays at a high level that could be a very solid piece to have around the trade deadline.

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08-03-2010, 07:50 PM
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now this is based on the opinion that the sens will move a forward (or two)

anyone see Torres as an option for the sens? played spezza's win in juniors, tough, solid skater and could be had on the cheap

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08-03-2010, 08:36 PM
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Granted we lost A-Train, but I would hardly say our PK is meh.
The loss of Volchenkov is big for the PK, imo. Not enough to make it bad, but just meh. Anytime you trade out Volchenkov for Gonchar, it's going to affect the PK (and a big effect on the PP).

On paper, anyway. And the loss of Kelly might not be devestating, but on paper it would really downgrade our PK, I think.

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Michalek - Spezza - Alfredson
Regin - Fisher - Kovalev
Ruutu - Kelly - Neil
Foligno - Z. Smith - Winchester/Shannon

Kuba - Gonchar
Phillips - Karlsson
Campoli - Carkner/Lee

Leclaire - Elliott
We can start with a 21 man roster.
- make the only real battle in camp between Shannon & Z.Smith... winner is on the team.
- Campoli and Carkner can both play wing. Though I'd personally just use Lee up front for short term injuries instead of starting D-men.

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08-03-2010, 09:10 PM
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I think it's fairly obvious that the Sens will go with a 22 man roster. It's what they've done the past 2 seasons.

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08-03-2010, 09:17 PM
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The loss of Volchenkov is big for the PK, imo. Not enough to make it bad, but just meh. Anytime you trade out Volchenkov for Gonchar, it's going to affect the PK (and a big effect on the PP).

On paper, anyway. And the loss of Kelly might not be devestating, but on paper it would really downgrade our PK, I think.
Carkner was pretty awesome on the PK. I'm not too worried.

I agree with the Kelly part and what Furh said with no point in moving Kelly unless someone out of camp steps up and makes him expendable.

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08-03-2010, 09:27 PM
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Carkner was 'OK' on the PK. I'm kinda hoping that Lee has a strong camp and makes his way into the lineup from time to time to play on the PK and maybe show up as a physical presence or something like that.

I'm not so worried about our D 5-on-5. People may chalk up our shutdown efforts to Anton, but I'm a firm believer that we played a team brand of Defense and the forwards factored heavily into the way we played Defense in our own zone. If Clouston can run a tight ship and get everyone playing the right kind of game, then we should do great with the guys we have.

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08-03-2010, 09:51 PM
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I think it's fairly obvious that the Sens will go with a 22 man roster. It's what they've done the past 2 seasons.
Do you mean 21? They've had 7 defensemen and 12 forwards, but I don't remember an extra forward. The 21st guy was always a swing man, Schubert until he was waived.

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Rumor is that Forsberg may be going to the Leafs, would make total sense considering their centerman issues and Burke's ever desire to add contracts till he hits the max number.
Why would Forsberg sign in Toronto? That makes no sense at all. If he comes back, he'll want to go to a contender.


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08-03-2010, 10:16 PM
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If he is healthy which will be a huge gigantic if... but if he is and plays at a high level that could be a very solid piece to have around the trade deadline.
Don't read to much into it. Leafers are currenbtly throwing darts at a dart board at the moment hoping something sticks...

They are throwing out names like Sundin, Forsberg, Naslund and even Kovalchuk out there....

They really have no idea at the moment...

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08-03-2010, 10:29 PM
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Don't read to much into it. Leafers are currenbtly throwing darts at a dart board at the moment hoping something sticks...

They are throwing out names like Sundin, Forsberg, Naslund and even Kovalchuk out there....

They really have no idea at the moment...
Probably someone like Roman Cervenka.

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Probably someone like Roman Cervenka.
Wasn't Ottawa a suiter? What happened to that?

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Actually I hope its Yashin. It'll just make me hate the Leafs even more. I'm just not feeling the same hatred I used to...

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08-03-2010, 11:45 PM
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Do you mean 21? They've had 7 defensemen and 12 forwards, but I don't remember an extra forward. The 21st guy was always a swing man, Schubert until he was waived.
To start the season 2009/10:

Michalek-Spezza-Alfie
Foligno-Fisher-Kovalev
Regin-Winchester-Cheechoo
Neil-Kelly-Ruutu
Donovan/Shannon

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Picard
Campoli-Carkner
Karlsson

Leclaire
Elliott

So that's actually 23 men, not 22, definitely not 21. But there tended to always be one guy that was always banged up or injured so it was typically 2 healthy bodies scratched each night.

2008-09 season starting lineup:

Heatley-Spezza-Alfie
Fisher-Vermette-Foligno
Neil-Kelly-Ruutu
Donovan-Winchester-Schubert
McAmmond

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-J.Smith
Picard-Lee
Richardson

Richardson retired shortly thereafter and the Sens called up Brendan Bell to replace him for the majority of the remainder of the season. Lee was also shuttled back and forth to Bingo but played over 50 games at the NHL level. Schubert rotated between forward and defense but that doesn't mean he was the only extra body they carried.

They've gone with at least 22 players the last 2 years.

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08-04-2010, 12:02 AM
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2008-09 season starting lineup:

Heatley-Spezza-Alfie
Fisher-Vermette-Foligno
Neil-Kelly-Ruutu
Donovan-Winchester-Schubert
McAmmond

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-J.Smith
Picard-Lee
Richardson
Man, did we ever have a one-line team

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08-04-2010, 12:12 AM
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Actually I hope its Yashin. It'll just make me hate the Leafs even more. I'm just not feeling the same hatred I used to...
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True. That's what happens when there's no more adversity when we play against them.

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Actually I hope its Yashin. It'll just make me hate the Leafs even more. I'm just not feeling the same hatred I used to...
I believe the hatred for the Leafs has somewhat been soaked up by the likes of the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Buffalo Sabres since the lock-out. Maybe that's just myself. It's hard to feel hate a team thoroughly when they don't threaten you, what-so-ever.

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08-04-2010, 12:19 AM
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Murray normally carries 22 bodies....

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I believe the hatred for the Leafs has somewhat been soaked up by the likes of the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Buffalo Sabres since the lock-out. Maybe that's just myself. It's hard to feel hate a team thoroughly when they don't threaten you, what-so-ever.
I'll say I hate them, but that's only because I go to university in Toronto and am surrounded by Leaf fans who openly rip the Sens when their team is in last place.

In terms of the old school rivalry, when the they actually made it to the playoffs, the hatred from that no longer exists. I guess now it's just annoyance with fans who refuse to admit that their team is garbage, and see a win against a better team as meaning that they are superior, in spite of the standings. I think if trash talking starts early next year about how Ottawa lost in the season series against the Leafs, and that they are better, I will point out that we won the season series against the Hawks, and ask them where our Stanley Cup is.

On more topical note, the Leafs speculation is hilarious. Most of the recent stuff is coming from Burke canceling a charity event. It is speculated that he went to Europe to sign a player, so they are throwing around (as previously stated) Sundin, Forsberg, Naslund, Jagr, and Radulov. I think it would be hilarious if he was signing Kaberle to an extension or s prospect to the Marlies.

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It's already been reported that Burke's trip to europe was not true. And I agree, don't really hate the leafs per se anymore, mainly just the annoying fans lol (I'm Toronto area as well)

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My hatred towards the Leafs had softened up too until I went to the game in Toronto in February. The sens were one an 11 game winning streak, playing the worst team in the league...Unfortunately most people probably know the score, and I hate to remind you but it was 5-0 for the leafs :'(

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One of the most devestating losses of the season.

Just because it was them...

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Phillips or Kaberle??

Different d-men i know that ...both have one year deals Phillips comes cheaper who has more Value??? Kaberle can get a Neal,Ryan,Richards dont think they can if yes then explre trading phillips for them....

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Huh? I feel like whatever it is you're going on about here, I won't like it one bit.

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