HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > International Tournaments
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

International Tournaments Discuss international tournaments such as the World Juniors, Olympic hockey, and Ice Hockey World Championships, as they take place; or discuss past tournaments.

Russia's roster : first 10 players announced!!!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-29-2004, 08:13 PM
  #126
wilka91*
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,251
vCash: 500
All I have to say is this :

2002 Olympics

Canada 3, Germany 2

Good game!!!

wilka91* is offline  
Old
05-29-2004, 08:16 PM
  #127
stockwizard*
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,149
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilka91
All I have to say is this :

2002 Olympics

Canada 3, Germany 2

Good game!!!
Please Wilka. You seem pretty well spoken. You really disappoint me.
You should know that Canada raises their game when they are playing tougher teams.
This post you gave is a destament to the power of Canadian Hockey. You are trying to make us look bad, and you show a game that we won. :lol

stockwizard* is offline  
Old
05-29-2004, 08:52 PM
  #128
Epsilon
#TeamHolland
 
Epsilon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: South Cackalacky
Posts: 47,619
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macman
This one always makes me laugh. When Canada was winning seven world junior golds in the 1990s, Europeans dismissed it as a "kids" tournament. Now it's apparently how we determine world hockey supremacy. Never mind the fact Russia has won only one tournament where the world's best players competed -- and that was 23 years ago!
The guy who posted that wasn't trying to make it sound like the WJCs are a big deal (they are not). He was refuting the blatantly incorrect statement that Canada has won the most WJC medals, which someone else tried to pass off as fact.

Quote:
The ONLY reason Russia has won more world junior titles than Canada is that Canada didn't begin sending a national team until 1982. Never mind the fact Russia has only had to deal with junior-eligible guys not being available for their world team in recent years while Canada has been dealing with it from the start. I'm almost hoping for an NHL strike or lockout cuz we'll get to see a full Canadian junior team next year for only the second time ever. And like the last time in 1995, it'll be a blowout.
Lots of assumptions here with little in the way of fact to back them up. Also, given that the major players at a WJC tournament are typically guys drafted the summer before, if Russia iced their strongest lineup next year (which would contain Ovechkin, Malkin, and Radulov, among others) it's possible they would have the best team.

Epsilon is online now  
Old
05-29-2004, 08:52 PM
  #129
wilka91*
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,251
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by stockwizard
Please Wilka. You seem pretty well spoken. You really disappoint me.
You should know that Canada raises their game when they are playing tougher teams.
This post you gave is a destament to the power of Canadian Hockey. You are trying to make us look bad, and you show a game that we won. :lol
1998/2002 Olympics

Canada vs. Sweden/Finland/CzechRepublic/Russia

2-3-1 record

wilka91* is offline  
Old
05-29-2004, 09:01 PM
  #130
Rob
Registered User
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New Brunswick
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,265
vCash: 500
It would have been great if the IIHF had moved the World Championships from May to September. Then the best players in the world would have been available to play.

Rob is offline  
Old
05-29-2004, 09:06 PM
  #131
wilka91*
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 4,251
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
It would have been great if the IIHF had moved the World Championships from May to September. Then the best players in the world would have been available to play.
Exactly.

wilka91* is offline  
Old
05-29-2004, 09:11 PM
  #132
joe_shannon_1983*
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,518
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to joe_shannon_1983*
European Teams Records Against Canada at the 1998-2002 Olympics and Canada/World Cups combined:

36-15-10

Now bear in mind, this is a combination of the big ice and small ice tournaments.

If Russia can't play on the small ice, then that is their problem. Same goes for all European teams. You can say "well, small ice is more suited to Canadian style" until you are blue in the face. Canada has proven it can win on the big ice and small ice. The fact is, Canada is the only country to win a major tournament, one which the best players are allowed to play, they are the only country to win such a tournament on both big ice and small ice.

That is the one part that has always made Canada the best hockey country in the world. It is a country capable of playing any style and being successful. They are not one-dimensional. They can beat you with skill, speed, power, anything.

Canada doesn't use "well, that tournament and its big ice surface didn't fit our style" as an excuse.

So why do European teams use "small ice" as an excuse for why Canada has won?

Also, why bother mentioning home ice? Did Canada have home ice in the 2002 Olympics? No, but they still win. Did they have home ice at the 1996 World Cup? Yes, and they lost. Home ice doesn't matter all that much.

If home ice was so important, why did the Soviets choke a 3-1-1 series lead in 1972? The last 4 games were played in their rinks afterall. Why also didn't the Japanese team win the 1998 Olympics? You know why? Because they weren't good enough. And the same goes for every tournament, home ice or not, that the Russians or any other team has lost to Canada.


Last edited by joe_shannon_1983*: 05-29-2004 at 09:27 PM.
joe_shannon_1983* is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:46 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2016 All Rights Reserved.