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Streit is on the short list of Isles untouchables. with Tavares, Okposo, and maybe two or three others. And maybe this is partially the wishful thinking of a fan, but I think the team is done dealing talent for picks. It's time to start improving today.
Now can I interest you in one Bruno Gervais? He might be had for a lesser package of players and picks...
not nearly enough to get us interested, Start with Pavelski and a 1st, and I do mean start because yours usually is a late first. Streit is virtually untradeable.
to actually trade Streit it would probably hurt the Sharks about as much as it would the Isles to lose him, Pavelski and a 1st, and Coyle. and for the Sharks thats crazy, but thats what it would take. and even then it would set us back a year, because Streit is the Heart of our defense and our offensive igniter
Last edited by Isles_Guy*: 08-08-2010 at 02:52 AM.
not nearly enough to get us interested, Start with Pavelski and a 1st, and I do mean start because yours usually is a late first. Streit is virtually untradeable.
to actually trade Streit it would probably hurt the Sharks about as much as it would the Isles to lose him, Pavelski and a 1st, and Coyle. and for the Sharks thats crazy, but thats what it would take. and even then it would set us back a year, because Streit is the Heart of our defense and our offensive igniter
Then he is untouchable because that's a ridiculous asking price for Streit. I perfectly understand that that was the entire point but I'm just saying.
Then he is untouchable because that's a ridiculous asking price for Streit. I perfectly understand that that was the entire point but I'm just saying.
see but then you really dont understand, Streit is our Defense, most of our defense is extremely inexperienced, hence signing Eaton and trading for Wisniewski, Streit has mentored MacDonald and Hillen from nothing to at least passable defenders and he will do the same for DeHaan and Hamonic. He is critical for their development....
and on offense he is just as critical, a steadying influence and on Ice linchpin, That acts as a focal point for our youth. Losing Streit would easily set us back at least a year. The Sharks could realistically use two defenders, but honestly with Streit, you would need only one, because he'd take a rookie beside him and make him markedly better, just by guiding him and building his confidence.
Yes, value wise in a vacuum you are right, but for what he means to us and our team, and to yours if you had him and saw him day to day, perfectly fair.... I dont say that about many players, but The day we signed him, was the day this franchise turned around, because since then there has been hope
this is way beyond the common "he means more to us then he would to you" line. without streit the team takes such a big hit. id love to get clowe, dont get me wrong but not at the expense of streit. its funny to see him among the league leaders in random stats.
I think the Sharks would be better served trying to acquire Kaberle. Won't cost as much (maybe Clowe and a 1st). Streit's contract is a good one for what he does and runs 3 more years.
see but then you really dont understand, Streit is our Defense, most of our defense is extremely inexperienced, hence signing Eaton and trading for Wisniewski, Streit has mentored MacDonald and Hillen from nothing to at least passable defenders and he will do the same for DeHaan and Hamonic. He is critical for their development....
and on offense he is just as critical, a steadying influence and on Ice linchpin, That acts as a focal point for our youth. Losing Streit would easily set us back at least a year. The Sharks could realistically use two defenders, but honestly with Streit, you would need only one, because he'd take a rookie beside him and make him markedly better, just by guiding him and building his confidence.
Yes, value wise in a vacuum you are right, but for what he means to us and our team, and to yours if you had him and saw him day to day, perfectly fair.... I dont say that about many players, but The day we signed him, was the day this franchise turned around, because since then there has been hope
Plus, what I think most people don't realize is, streit is a relatively "young" 32. He was drafted at 26(I believe) yrs old from the swiss league, which isn't a heavy hitting league so little wear on his body. Then he played minimal minutes in montreal. Pp mins on defense & 4th line forward mins.
He only became the star defenseman he is once signing with the isles. So trading him makes little sense for the isles bc he still has a lot of mileage left, not to mention the leader & mentor you mention he is. Snow finds gems & signs them to steal(sometimes) deals. Overpayment would be necessary IF streit were ever be moved, which I don't see happening anytime soon.
Losing Clowe isnt worth it when there are much cheaper options out there. We should also hold onto our 1st to grab a quality winger. We have Coyle and Fierrero, and not much more in our winger prospect pool.
i'd say streit is more important and less replaceable to the islanders than pavelski is to san jose...a trade that would be hard for both teams to make....those are "fair trades" that typically happen in REAL LIFE, not message boards.
that said. streit ain't going anywhere and i'm sure pavelski isn't either.
obviously you didnt read the post, you just read the highlight, perhaps if you knew anything about the Islanders you'd understand
its funny that other Sharks fans were sharp enough to grasp the reasoning and you werent. situations are different on a team by team basis. it just so happens that Streit is unique for our teams dynamic. until you understand that you cannot relate
i'd say streit is more important and less replaceable to the islanders than pavelski is to san jose...a trade that would be hard for both teams to make....those are "fair trades" that typically happen in REAL LIFE, not message boards.
that said. streit ain't going anywhere and i'm sure pavelski isn't either.
Typically in real life trades are only made when the organization deems a player expendable in some way. If not, it doesn't happen. Just because it would be hard for both teams doesn't make it fair. It would be hard for both the Isles to trade Streit and the Pens to trade Crosby...doesn't make it fair.
Typically in real life trades are only made when the organization deems a player expendable in some way. If not, it doesn't happen. Just because it would be hard for both teams doesn't make it fair. It would be hard for both the Isles to trade Streit and the Pens to trade Crosby...doesn't make it fair.
Pavelski is a hell of a player for a 203rd pick, none of what I wrote was meant to knock him in any way.....I hope that was obvious
Seeing this offer makes me wonder why leafs fans get blasted for overvaluing their players...
All leaf fans in fact do not overvalue their players. it is only a select few that tarnish the reputation of the many. As a factual matter, there are a great many intelligent and thoughtful leaf fans who try valliantly to represent their team well.
It is very sad that so few can damage the collective intelligence of so many.... it would be a great shame if you were to lose the benefit of those who are great posters, because of the few.
