2006-Mar-09 Traded from New York Islanders with future considerations to Phoenix Coyotes for future considerations and round 3 pick in the 2006 draft (Brad Marchand)
Did anything ever evolve from this? Considering..
2005-06 Phoenix Coyotes
GP G A P PIM
15 4 7 11 6
That's almost a point per game player. Shouldn't that be at least a 2nd rounder?
That was the maddening thing about Kvasha, he had so much skill, but NEVER put it together.
he'd put it together for a week or two. i remember being at the coliseum with the place bumpin to the "Oleg-Oleg-Oleg-Oleg Oleggggg Oleggggg" chants.
good times. though i did talk a friend out of buying a kvasha jersey. (he ended up getting a peca jersey a night or two before the "hit" by darcy, so in hindsight, maybe i shouldn't have...)
That was the maddening thing about Kvasha, he had so much skill, but NEVER put it together.
skill is one of the most meaningless traits in a hockey player. It matters so little in how a player actually performs, what they contribute, etc.
TSN had a segment on the "most skilled players of all time" yesterday.
I think the top ten were:
10. Pavel Datsyuk
9. Jaromir Jagr
8. Pavel Bure
7. Denis Savard
6. Kent Nilsson
5. Gilbert Perreault
4. Alex Kovalev
3. Wayne Gretzky
2. Bobby Orr
1. Mario Lemieux
Despite arguing the merits/order of the players there, what does "skill" really matter? Isn't it about output, team success, leadership, WINS?
Some of the best players the game has seen are nowhere on that list: Trottier, Bossy, Lafleur, Yzerman, Messier, Forsberg - a player like Ryan Smith.
Kvasha bothered me so much (not just me, I'm sure) because he was big, could skate, stickhandle, etc - yet was so completely clueless on the ice. He was useless. I don't see how a scout who watches him play would want him on their team?!?! Boggles the mind.
skill is one of the most meaningless traits in a hockey player. It matters so little in how a player actually performs, what they contribute, etc.
TSN had a segment on the "most skilled players of all time" yesterday.
I think the top ten were:
10. Pavel Datsyuk
9. Jaromir Jagr
8. Pavel Bure
7. Denis Savard 6. Kent Nilsson !!!!! huh?
5. Gilbert Perreault
4. Alex Kovalev ???!!!!! # 4??????????? maybe #34 is what they meant...or 54...
3. Wayne Gretzky
2. Bobby Orr
1. Mario Lemieux
Despite arguing the merits/order of the players there, what does "skill" really matter? Isn't it about output, team success, leadership, WINS?
Some of the best players the game has seen are nowhere on that list: Trottier, Bossy, Lafleur, Yzerman, Messier, Forsberg - a player like Ryan Smith.
Kvasha bothered me so much (not just me, I'm sure) because he was big, could skate, stickhandle, etc - yet was so completely clueless on the ice. He was useless. I don't see how a scout who watches him play would want him on their team?!?! Boggles the mind.
No Guy LaFleur and Nilsson made the list??? I don't think I ever saw a player with more skill than the Flower.
All fine players but shows what the TSN knows about hockey (not much).
No Guy LaFleur and Nilsson made the list??? I don't think I ever saw a player with more skill than the Flower.
All fine players but shows what the TSN knows about hockey (not much).
Kovalev in his prime had more skill than any player in the league today. The guy is absolute magic with the puck, but his downfall like Kvasha's is that these players had no determination, if they had the work ethic of Zach Parise, they would have been the best players in the league.
Kovalev in his prime had more skill than any player in the league today. The guy is absolute magic with the puck, but his downfall like Kvasha's is that these players had no determination, if they had the work ethic of Zach Parise, they would have been the best players in the league.
That quite a broad statement. While Kovalev certainly had a highly skilled player, I respectfully strongly disagree...
To answer the OP, the only remaining remnant of anybody from the initial Kvasha/Parrish deal is one Kirill Petrov. Petrov's draft pick was acquired for Marc Andre Bergeron who was acquired for Denis Grebeshkov who was acquired along with Jeff Tambellini for Mark Parrish who was acquired along with Oleg Kvasha for, well you know who. All remaining traces and spinoffs of that trade are no longer with the org.
And no future considerations ever came out of Kvasha to Phoenix.
You cited the statistics of a moribund player at the end of his contract (read: playing for his next deal, which turned out to be in the KHL) toiling on a moribund team at the tail end of a moribund season. That is, a no-pressure environment.
Example #568,934,483 why statistics, offered alone, without perspective, mean jack****.
I really only meant the "future considerations" part. I gave it italics, probably should have bolded the text.
Like most futures, they will likely become nothing,though it could still happen as one never knows. The 3rd rounder got traded a couple times and became Wesloskey, Ridderwall and Shane Simms, of which only the last is still Islanders property. Which is still more than fair return IMO.
Like most futures, they will likely become nothing,though it could still happen as one never knows. The 3rd rounder got traded a couple times and became Wesloskey, Ridderwall and Shane Simms, of which only the last is still Islanders property. Which is still more than fair return IMO.
Jase Weslosky is not Isles property anymore? I'd swear I saw him mentioned as Islanders property just the other day so I'm surprised. I guess the site just wasn't updated?
Jase Weslosky is not Isles property anymore? I'd swear I saw him mentioned as Islanders property just the other day so I'm surprised. I guess the site just wasn't updated?
I thought he wasn't, as he got kicked out of school and we never signed him, and my understanding is you only keep draft rights more than two years if a player remains a bonafide college student. But afterr looking again, apparently we have until August 15 to sign him. So for the next week at least, he is still our property, but if we haven't signed him by now, I kinda doubt we will.
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