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05-28-2004, 05:26 PM
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not signing phaneuf a mistake!

with the flames depth on the blueline paper thin with brennan evans a groin pull away from being the 6th man. the flames should have signed dion. he would be able to practice with the team and the coaches could gauge his readiness to play. if he's not ready, no problem leave him be . if he proves better than evans, theres your reason to sign him. best case scenario they spot him on the pp and a healthy fresh body eats up some minutes. worst case, he sits on the bench. how many stanley cup runs is this guy going to go through. my prediction: not many

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with the flames depth on the blueline paper thin with brennan evans a groin pull away from being the 6th man. the flames should have signed dion. he would be able to practice with the team and the coaches could gauge his readiness to play. if he's not ready, no problem leave him be . if he proves better than evans, theres your reason to sign him. best case scenario they spot him on the pp and a healthy fresh body eats up some minutes. worst case, he sits on the bench. how many stanley cup runs is this guy going to go through. my prediction: not many
Sign him so he can be a bench warmer? Um... no. Why not wait until a new CBA which may have lower provisions for the rookie max etc? He has already proven better than Evans (in training camp), but he isn't yet ahead of Montador or Commodore on the depth chart so it would be foolish to sign him so he can sit in the press box.

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What's everyones problem with Brennan Evans? Granted he needs a lot of development but it's not like the organization signed him merely to pad a minor league roster, given that they already suspended their primary AHL affliliate. They figure he might have some game down the line otherwise they are just throwing money away and wouldn't have signed him. How is Evan's situation any different that Steve Montador's?


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Sign him so he can be a bench warmer? Um... no. Why not wait until a new CBA which may have lower provisions for the rookie max etc? He has already proven better than Evans (in training camp), but he isn't yet ahead of Montador or Commodore on the depth chart so it would be foolish to sign him so he can sit in the press box.
since phaneuf was drafted under the current cba , he is subject to those rules. not the new ones. lets say they lose 2 d men , ference and commodore, then what do you do? umm play regehr,leopold, montador,warrener, evans and ? uh there is nobody left.

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If we tried to sign him now, we wouldn't exaclty be able to work out a good deal. His agent would take advantage of the situation and we'd end up paying more than we would if the two parties went through a summer negotiation.

If we do go down 4 defensemen in the finals, then we may have to sign him, but since we still have 7 healthy ones, why should we?

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If we tried to sign him now, we wouldn't exaclty be able to work out a good deal. His agent would take advantage of the situation and we'd end up paying more than we would if the two parties went through a summer negotiation.

If we do go down 4 defensemen in the finals, then we may have to sign him, but since we still have 7 healthy ones, why should we?
i agree if he demands the max plus bonuses for tying his shoes correctly for 3-4 million. but for a club that has had 11 home games minimum, a merchandising bonanza this playoffs, quibbling over a couple hundred thousand, i wouldn't do it, i would play it safe and sign him if the demands arent outrageous. if you wait til your down to 4 dmen to sign him, well now your really over a barrel now arent you?

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since phaneuf was drafted under the current cba , he is subject to those rules. not the new ones. lets say they lose 2 d men , ference and commodore, then what do you do? umm play regehr,leopold, montador,warrener, evans and ? uh there is nobody left.
Then you sign Phaneuf.

What do we do if Iginla, Gelinas, Conroy, Simon, Kiprusoff and Turek all go down?

What a stupid argument.

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Then you sign Phaneuf.

What do we do if Iginla, Gelinas, Conroy, Simon, Kiprusoff and Turek all go down?

What a stupid argument.
one injury way from brennan evans being your 6th dman is a stupid argument? 2 injuries away from having no one ready at all? i think you better go back to 17th order your crantini, and try waiting a few more years until the flames could possibly have this chance again. what im saying to the dull minded is why take a chance when you could never be in this postion again.

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If we go down to 4 defenseman in the finals, then you put 2 forwards as defensemen. Your 2 best gritty players that are good defensively.

Which wouldn't be hard to choose from.

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The stanley cup finals can make a guy say "F the pain, i'm playin..." Bobby Baun (i think it was him) froze his damn leg and played and won the cup to boot. Doug Lidster played with a broken foot (or was it Plavsic? i forget) but you get my point. When its the finals, you do whatever u can to play, if ur hurt, bandage that bad boy up.

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one injury way from brennan evans being your 6th dman is a stupid argument? 2 injuries away from having no one ready at all? i think you better go back to 17th order your crantini, and try waiting a few more years until the flames could possibly have this chance again. what im saying to the dull minded is why take a chance when you could never be in this postion again.
Yes, it is an assinine argument.

You know that we can sign Phaneuf at any time, right? Basically hoping for two injuries just so you can prance around yelling "I told you so" is just trying to stir the pot for no benifit.

Why waste the money on a player that we will more than likely not need in the first place? Worry about what to do if a defenseman gets injured when it happens. To do it before is a waste of time.

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