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08-09-2010, 04:01 PM
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Ennis wins the Calder this season

Based on who I see him playing with, I believe Ennis is in the strongest position of all rookies to garner the Calder for Rookie of the Year.

Whether he plays with Roy and Vanek or Connolly and Pomminville, I predict Ennis will have a fantastic season.

35 - 40 Goals
50 -55 assists

low side 85 points
high side 95 points

I don't know, but I really have a great feeling about having this talented young kid in the line up.

Thoughts?

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08-09-2010, 04:06 PM
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Based on who I see him playing with, I believe Ennis is in the strongest position of all rookies to garner the Calder for Rookie of the Year.

Whether he plays with Roy and Vanek or Connolly and Pomminville, I predict Ennis will have a fantastic season.

35 - 40 Goals
50 -55 assists

low side 85 points
high side 95 points

I don't know, but I really have a great feeling about having this talented young kid in the line up.

Thoughts?
I can almost guarantee you he won't score 80+ points. Realistically, 20 goals, 50 points is reasonable. Anything more than that is setting the bar far too high for a player in his first NHL season.

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I think anywhere above 25 goals and 35 assists is being extremely optimistic for Ennis. Even a 60 point season would be well beyond my expectations for him right now, and projecting 85-95 points for him next year is ludicrous IMO.

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08-09-2010, 04:18 PM
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ehh i dunno i think he can do it personally maybe not 85 but i could see him at like 30-35 for 65 points or 33-37 for 70 points

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08-09-2010, 04:18 PM
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I think anywhere above 25 goals and 35 assists is being extremely optimistic for Ennis. Even a 60 point season would be well beyond my expectations for him right now, and projecting 85-95 points for him next year is ludicrous IMO.
No more ludicrous than projecting him above 25 goals and 35 assists
I really believe he can do it, if the stars aline this season.

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08-09-2010, 04:23 PM
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My crystal ball tells me 19 G, 37 A, 56 pts in 74 games (misses 8 games due to injury).

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08-09-2010, 04:24 PM
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He'll have a shot at the Calder, but those point totals are way too high. Some quality offensive players don't even hit 85-95 points in a season in their career.

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08-09-2010, 04:37 PM
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he needs to play with some better line mates to hit 85 points imo.

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Wait, are we talking NHL points or are you talking about his points in NHL 2K10 or whatever the current game is? Because he sure as hell isn't making that outside of a video game.8

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Depends...if we go back to the wide open style we played the two years after the lockout, he could hit 70+.

If we continue the system of the last two years...ummm...no way.

Vanek was at his best during those years.
Roy was at his best during those years.
Pomms was at his best during those years.
Hecht was at his best during those years.

Hmmmm...

Get the deal done for Kaberle, and with Myers, Leopold and even Monty, we have a bunch of guys that can make that first pass an open it up.

Might as well rely on our world class goalie to bail out those breakaways again.

Maybe with Ennis, and some of the younger guys, Ruff goes back to a more wide open system.

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No way he gets that many goals or points. I'd be happy with 20 goals and 30 assists

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Remember how Drew Stafford scored 22 points in his last 21 games in 06-07 and we all though he was going to take the world on fire the following season?

My god, the expectations for Ennis are insane. 40 points and I'll be happy. That would probably still be in the top 10 for rookie scoring (maybe even top 5), and quite frankly it would be a hell of a lot more reasonable than Ennis being the next incarnation of Mario Lemieux.

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Based on who I see him playing with, I believe Ennis is in the strongest position of all rookies to garner the Calder for Rookie of the Year.

Whether he plays with Roy and Vanek or Connolly and Pomminville, I predict Ennis will have a fantastic season.

35 - 40 Goals
50 -55 assists

low side 85 points
high side 95 points

I don't know, but I really have a great feeling about having this talented young kid in the line up.

Thoughts?
wow. i think anything above 60 points would be spectacular. i mean, i hope he does score 90... but its unrealistic to predict that.

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Tyler Seguin or Taylor Hall may have something to say about that.

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My crystal ball tells me 19 G, 37 A, 56 pts in 74 games (misses 8 games due to injury).
That's about where I'm at. 20-30-50, maybe a bit worse, maybe a bit better. If anything, I think his play will start to tail off after 50 or so games of trying to compete against bigger, stronger vets who will have 40 lbs on him, and who are accustomed to the grind of an NHL season. It also wouldn't surprised me of someone catches him with his head down at some point.

The kid has a dynamic aspect to his game that we haven't had since Briere left, but I think the Calder is amazingly optimistic. Hell, I'll be happy if he's one of the top 5 scorers on the team.

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I'll **** a brick if he scores more than 45. He's getting awfully overrated lately.

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He may be a candidate for the Calder, but that many points is ridiculous.

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He may be a candidate for the Calder, but that many points is ridiculous.
Right-o.

85 is the low end?

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Based on who I see him playing with, I believe Ennis is in the strongest position of all rookies to garner the Calder for Rookie of the Year.

Whether he plays with Roy and Vanek or Connolly and Pomminville, I predict Ennis will have a fantastic season.

35 - 40 Goals
50 -55 assists

low side 85 points
high side 95 points

I don't know, but I really have a great feeling about having this talented young kid in the line up.

Thoughts?
If he scores that many points we'll be first in the East.

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Based on who I see him playing with, I believe Ennis is in the strongest position of all rookies to garner the Calder for Rookie of the Year.

Whether he plays with Roy and Vanek or Connolly and Pomminville, I predict Ennis will have a fantastic season.

35 - 40 Goals
50 -55 assists

low side 85 points
high side 95 points

I don't know, but I really have a great feeling about having this talented young kid in the line up.

Thoughts?
I also have a good feeling about him, but I think those numbers may be a tad high for young Mr. Ennis.

Considering that our leading scorer last year had 69 points, I would be thrilled to see him get 40 points this upcoming season.

I will give you that if he scores 85-95 points, he will almost definitely win the Calder, however unlikely.

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Remember how Drew Stafford scored 22 points in his last 21 games in 06-07 and we all though he was going to take the world on fire the following season?

My god, the expectations for Ennis are insane. 40 points and I'll be happy. That would probably still be in the top 10 for rookie scoring (maybe even top 5), and quite frankly it would be a hell of a lot more reasonable than Ennis being the next incarnation of Mario Lemieux.
My thoughts exactly. I penciled Stafford into the top 6 after 06-07; I'm not doing that again with Ennis. 15 goals, 35 points is fine with me.

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I think anywhere above 25 goals and 35 assists is being extremely optimistic for Ennis. Even a 60 point season would be well beyond my expectations for him right now, and projecting 85-95 points for him next year is ludicrous IMO.
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No more ludicrous than projecting him above 25 goals and 35 assists
I really believe he can do it, if the stars aline this season.
The Sabres haven't had anyone produce more than 81 points in the 3 years since Briere left - and the NHL has increasingly become tougher to score in. While I admire your enthusiasm and star-eyed forecast for this season, kaleta36 is right - predicting Ennis to notch 85-95 points is ludicrous and unrealistic, especially when there is no guarantee he'll even consistently see 1st line time or that his point-per-game clip in 10 games last season is an automatic over an 82 game schedule.

If Ennis broke into the NHL back in 2005-07, when smallish, creative players were flourishing with room to operate, your prediction would have a chance but not in this day and age.

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Too many good rookies on too many teams. Guys like Howard (and Myers to some extent) come out of nowhere every year to have unexpectedly great seasons.

Safer bet: the Calder will be won by someone no one is talking about right now.

and I think if Ennis touched 45, we'll rejoice. Probably closer to 16 goals/19 assists sort of year. its not like he's going to be playing top line 20 minutes a game like Briere was when he put up those numbers.

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I could see him with an outside chance of winning the Calder, but there's really no way he scores more than 65 pts max. I'm thinking 50-ish would be fantastic for a rookie year...somewhat similar to Stamkos' first year.

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In 16 games he had 13 points.
10 regular season games for 9 points.
6 playoff games for 4 points.

And people here are saying 50 points is a good season for him?
You cannot compare Staffords rookie season to Ennis, two entirely different playing styles. Its apples to oranges.

9 points in 10 games averaged over a full season is 72 points. I boosted his production because as this kid finds chemistry with his linemates, his production is only going to go up from there.
Is it a speculative projection? Of course, but there is no reason what so ever to believe he will miss games due to injury or that he could not maintain that pace and expand on it as the season progresses

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