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05-29-2004, 10:18 PM
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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.

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Now they aren't.

I'll bet money that both Thelen and Wolski have better NHL careers than Kastitsyn.

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I'll bet money that both Thelen and Wolski have better NHL careers than Kastitsyn.
just stop bringing kastitsyn in all discussion !!
Wolski is a better version of hossa
and Thelen = Hainsey with a better attitude ...
none of these 2 have gamebreaking potential ala Kastitsyn !

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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.

short answer. NO, they are not. Sorry, to burst your bubble.

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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.
I sort of doubt either player actually will be there at #18, but this year, who knows. Anything could happen. I'd be interested in Thelen. As for Wolski... well... if a bunch of other guys I'm higher on are already gone (e.g. Chipchura, Green), then I guess I could settle on Wolski, but I would feel a bit queasy about it. I don't really like his play... too inconsistent, too soft, too much of a floater. He's plenty talented, and he could be spectacular in the OHL if he decided to break a sweat once in a while, but I just don't trust that kind of prospect. I think I'd probably pass on Wolski. There would inevitably be somebody with a bit more fire available there.

I haven't seen Thelen *or* Kastitsyn, but if Wolski is a better prospect than Kastitsyn, I'd have to say we really blew the pick last year, then. However, from any reviews I've read about Kastitsyn, he's just in a class far above Wolski. Going strictly by those reviews, I'd imagine that Kastitsyn, if he had hypothetically opted out of last year's draft, would go somewhere in the next few picks after Ovechkin and Malkin this year. He sounds like he'd fit in nicely with most of the other names typically mentioned as potential top-10 picks (Ladd, Olesz, Schremp, Radulov, Tukonen, Stafford, Picard).

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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.
Kats went 10th overall in a draft year that was considered to be one of the deepest in recent memory. These two fellows are in a draft year that's been described as pretty thin after the first couple of picks. Anything can happen, but I don't think either of these two will be better than Kats IMHO.

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I'm tired of people making comparaisons with Kasts when they'v never seen him play. Wait till you see him to make assumptions. I've never see him myself so i'll wait to draw my conclusions.

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I'll bet money that both Thelen and Wolski have better NHL careers than Kastitsyn.
thanks for the offer but you can keep your money. I don't see a point in profiting off my fellow HF boards posters. Just donate the money as a "sponsor" to HF Boards and get a star next to your name. ok?


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I'll bet money that both Thelen and Wolski have better NHL careers than Kastitsyn.
How much? I'm willing to bet with you.

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I'd be very happy with Thelan, but i don't see him falling to 18.

I'd rank the prospects we have discussed in various threads:

1) thelan
2) Chipchura
3) Green
4) Valabik
5) Picard
6) Wheeler

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Wojtek Wolski is no good.

I don't like Wolski's attitude and the fact that he seems to not want to get involved enough. Seems like he will end up another Marcel Hossa, but i could be wrong. I just like the other 6 guys i mentionned better.

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I don't like Wolski's attitude and the fact that he seems to not want to get involved enough. Seems like he will end up another Marcel Hossa, but i could be wrong. I just like the other 6 guys i mentionned better.
I love Picard off that list.

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How about trading the pick for Mikko Koivu? I think that Mikko could start develop into the 3rd line center that plays with size that we need as soon as next year. The presence of Claude Julien and Saku would greatly help him imo... and, I really think that i'd be a marketing dream for the habs...

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To say Wolski's a better prospect than Kastsitsyn is nothing short of laughable. Although I have only seen Kastsitsyn play once, I have seen enough of Wolski to know he's one big floater and will always play the perimeter game. He's got great skills, but so do many other prospects that ended up being busts because all their dipsy-doodling brilliance did nothing for them at the pro level. I don't see Wolski becoming anything more than a 2nd liner, in a Czerkawski kind of way. Kastsitsyn on the other hand has game-breaking potential, and unlike Wolski, he can generate all the attack by himself, which he always had to do anyway on a mediocre Belarus squad.

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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.
WOAH! Let's not get carried away here. Anybody who has seen Wolski play would NEVER say that he is as good as Kast was last year. There is a reason why his stock is falling...

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If the THN Draft Guide is any indication, the Habs could have a shot at either A.J. Thelen or Wojtek Wolski with their #18 (or #17) pick in the first round. That would b amazing. Both of those players are better prospects than Kastitsyn was a year ago.
I also noticed this, I really wanted the habs to draft Wolski cause he's a big forward that can put the puck in the net, but i always thought he'd be drafted way to early, but the THN thing gave me some hope, but i wouldn't get to hyped over it anything could happen.

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Wolski is a better version of hossa
Marcel or Marian?

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Marcel or Marian?
If Wolski was a better version of Marian Hossa, I think it's fair to say he would go either 1st or 2nd overall.

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I still think Wolski would be a great choice for the Habs. He's only 17, and we all know he has the skills, he just needs more conviction, which I think players can develop as they grow in the NHL. And it's not like he is a total floater, often he comes out to play hard.

There's a reason he was projected to be a top 8 pick earlier.

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Personally I want to see Alexander Radulov drop down to us... I think he can be a very good pick, as his play has been described as a Russian, playing like Finn by THN. If he goes out (which I'm almost sure he will go)... I hope we select rather Fransson, Green, Meidl, or Chipchura.

I'd love to see Seitsonen throw on a hab jersey... He's a very interesting prospect to me. And in the third, I'm really hoping Plyuschev can fall down to our pick.

If Alexandrov falls, he'd also be a very interesting pick as well... He has too much talent to pass up on.

So in my 'dream'

I'd love to see one of Radulov, Chipchura, Green, Fransson, or Meidl selected....

I'd Like to move up for either one of Seistonen or Alexandrov,

And I really hope Plyuschev drops to our selection.

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How about trading the pick for Mikko Koivu? I think that Mikko could start develop into the 3rd line center that plays with size that we need as soon as next year. The presence of Claude Julien and Saku would greatly help him imo... and, I really think that i'd be a marketing dream for the habs...
I wouldn`t give up a first rounder for Koivu we`d be trading more for the name than the actual player.

As for a guy I`d like to see drafted Green would be good but THN has him ranked at something like 32, of course he could go in the top 10 or in the 3rd round if this is the case maybe we could trade the 18th for a later pick pull a Pollock and aquire a few additional picks.

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I'll bet money that both Thelen and Wolski have better NHL careers than Kastitsyn.
just shut up man. we dont give a damn about your negative intuitions about Kastsitsyn.. specially when you never ever saw him play.. i'LL guess you will be the first one to say: WOW kastsitsyn is tha bomb.

damn..

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just shut up man. we dont give a damn about your negative intuitions about Kastsitsyn.. specially when you never ever saw him play.. i'LL guess you will be the first one to say: WOW kastsitsyn is tha bomb.

damn..
You're right... But he'll never said that he's tha bomb. When people like him start to hate a player without any explainable reason, once the player is performing at the nhl level, those people will never like them. He's new to hockey anyways.

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