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08-28-2010, 12:22 AM
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Here, they were 23rd in the spring 09 rankings:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._rankings2130/

But hey, they deserve that huge jump, because Tyler Bozak is completely different from Matt Stajan, Kyle Wellwood, Alexander Steen, and every other mediocre Leaf forward that pumped up their numbers by getting a bunch of playing time they wouldn't have gotten anywhere else.
Uh huh!

I knew there was something in the 20's. Cheers!

Also I am Sweatty.

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08-28-2010, 05:17 AM
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Sweatt is awesome.

@Ryan_Kesler. I look forward to trying my best to make your team and help your win your 1st of many Stanley Cups! You are a great player!
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I hope he's right. (about Kesler winning many Cups)

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When did we do any of this stuff under Nonis?

I remember Schneider being interviewed at the 2006 WJCs in Vancouver and saying he'd had something like 1 conversation with the Canucks since they drafted him 18 months earlier. It was really shocking.

Nonis didn't seem to have a clue how to run a development system. Pretty much everything positive that's happened has happened under Gillis and Gillis only.
Such as?!?!?!

Really what has Gillis done that is so awesome in the way of development. Hodgson? It could be argued that Gillis's team has been more detrimental than helpful.

Don't get me wrong I don't mind the way the team is heading under
Gillis but Nonis did a decent job here as well IMVHO.

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Such as?!?!?!

Really what has Gillis done that is so awesome in the way of development. Hodgson? It could be argued that Gillis's team has been more detrimental than helpful.

Don't get me wrong I don't mind the way the team is heading under
Gillis but Nonis did a decent job here as well IMVHO.
Convincing KCON and SCHROEDER to leave college. Allowing coho to stay in ontario to get developed. (imagine how schneiders development path would have been if he had have left college early.)

Hired Gagner to replace Smyl, and giving the prospects the option of staying back east to develop (ala Coho)

Hiring a bunch of "ologists" to give the prospects all the tools they need to succeed

Developing a larger prospect tourney with the other teams

Let alone.. drafting the best player available instead of some "wild card" (pat white)

etc...

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08-29-2010, 12:31 PM
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SEASON
AHL SALARY
NHL SALARY
P. BONUSES
S. BONUS
CAP HIT
2010-2011$67,500$900,000$300,000$90,000$1,200,000
2011-2012$67,500$900,000$300,000$90,000$1,200,000
2012-2013$67,500$900,000$300,000$90,000$1,200,000

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08-29-2010, 01:09 PM
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He didn't even get the max bonuses. Doesn't he know that he's supposed to be a money grubbing jerk?

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08-29-2010, 02:12 PM
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He didn't even get the max bonuses. Doesn't he know that he's supposed to be a money grubbing jerk?
Billy needs to get an agent who knows what he is doing. Burkie was clear on that point.
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Sweatt, however, declined to accept the Leaf offer, and instead an angry Leaf GM Brian Burke opted to sign German prospect Marcel Mueller. Sweatt is still unsigned, and Burke blamed his agent, Scott Norton, for the failed negotations.

ďI believe a more experienced agent would have got this done,Ē he said.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...arance-at-camp

Sweatt's agent Scott Norton responded:
ďIt was a bit unfair of Brian to make it personal. Iíve been in this business 17 years and I like to think this isnít my first barbecue."

Just more of the same old, same old from Burkie. Again testosterone overwhelms brains. RJ Umberger - Part Deux.

When have Vancouver fans seen this movie before? Attack the agent, attack the player, misrepresent what went on...

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08-29-2010, 02:30 PM
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Billy needs to get an agent who knows what he is doing. Burkie was clear on that point.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...arance-at-camp

Sweatt's agent Scott Norton responded:
ďIt was a bit unfair of Brian to make it personal. Iíve been in this business 17 years and I like to think this isnít my first barbecue."

Just more of the same old, same old from Burkie. Again testosterone overwhelms brains. RJ Umberger - Part Deux.

When have Vancouver fans seen this movie before? Attack the agent, attack the player, misrepresent what went on...
Is it really that hard for Burke to comprehend a player might not want to go to his dump of a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in half a decade and probably won't get there for at least another 2 or 3 years, minimum?

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08-29-2010, 03:38 PM
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Is it really that hard for Burke to comprehend a player might not want to go to his dump of a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in half a decade and probably won't get there for at least another 2 or 3 years, minimum?
But, but, but... every player wants to play in TO.

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08-29-2010, 04:37 PM
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Toronto and Montreal are similar in a way. If the teams are doing well, lots of guys will go there. If the team looks like crap, it's the last place you want to go.

How would you like to be Kris Versteeg this year? You're going from kinda hiding on a deep Chicago team and being under the radar to being the Leafs big forward acquisition of the off-season.

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08-29-2010, 06:36 PM
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Billy needs to get an agent who knows what he is doing. Burkie was clear on that point.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...arance-at-camp

Sweatt's agent Scott Norton responded:
ďIt was a bit unfair of Brian to make it personal. Iíve been in this business 17 years and I like to think this isnít my first barbecue."

Just more of the same old, same old from Burkie. Again testosterone overwhelms brains. RJ Umberger - Part Deux.

When have Vancouver fans seen this movie before? Attack the agent, attack the player, misrepresent what went on...
Yeah, blame the agent who got his client a 1.2M/YR contract.

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08-29-2010, 06:55 PM
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Yeah, blame the agent who got his client a 1.2M/YR contract.
Burkie would have done better given his couple of years experience as a player agent. Probably as good an agent as a litigator as he clearly showed in the Krutov arbitration.

This is a great contract for a second round draft pick negotiated by Scott Norton. Looks like Sweatt is the best paid second rounder from 2007 as far as I can tell.

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So, to sum things up, Burke tried to bully Scott Norton, and when he failed, bluster bluster bluster.

Yup, about par for the course. My only wonder is that there are still agents in this league that want to do business with Burke.

I suppose you always know where you stand with him, at least. Cause he won't shut up about it.

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This is what you get when you google 'Scott Norton':


Probably not the same guy.

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This is what you get when you google 'Scott Norton':


Probably not the same guy.
Unlikely:


If you check out "Brian Burke" this would seem a likely result:



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Yup, about par for the course. My only wonder is that there are still agents in this league that want to do business with Burke.
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Is it really that hard for Burke to comprehend a player might not want to go to his dump of a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in half a decade and probably won't get there for at least another 2 or 3 years, minimum?

Are you saying he purposely didn't sign with Toronto because they haven't been successful lately? If anything, he should have more ice time, and hence, a better opportunity to play with the Leafs, and a chance to earn his 1.2 million.

Guaranteed he's not going to be with the big club the entire year, 15 games I'm guessing.

What you're guessing at is pretty stupid btw, I hate players like Blake Wheeler that refuse to sign with the team that drafted you (I treat RFAs in a similar boat). By your logic, no one would ever sign with Florida.. unless apparently they all choose to sign there because of the lovely weather.


Also, I'm sure Burke offered 1.2+mil as well.

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Burkie would have done better given his couple of years experience as a player agent. Probably as good an agent as a litigator as he clearly showed in the Krutov arbitration.
Wait, are you actually saying Ray Staszak wasn't going to be the next Wayne Gretzky?

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Is it really that hard for Burke to comprehend a player might not want to go to his dump of a franchise that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in half a decade and probably won't get there for at least another 2 or 3 years, minimum?
At Sweatts current $900,000-$1,200,000 he probably won't get there for at least another 2 or 3 years (ie taking a NHL roster spot on the Canucks that is).


A rookie at 900K+ has to beat out guy like Hansen and even Torres for spot and that are cheaper (and then there are the 500-600k guys on the 4th line). The nucks aren't going to have much space left any of the next 2-3 years, Sweatt is paid 3rd line money and will struggle to take a 4th line spot at that salary rate. And to top it off he only got a his signing bonus to show for it, guess he wanted the bigger signing bonus (bigger base) even though it might mean more time in the minors on a weak salary.


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Billy needs to get an agent who knows what he is doing. Burkie was clear on that point.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...arance-at-camp

Sweatt's agent Scott Norton responded:
ďIt was a bit unfair of Brian to make it personal. Iíve been in this business 17 years and I like to think this isnít my first barbecue."

Just more of the same old, same old from Burkie. Again testosterone overwhelms brains. RJ Umberger - Part Deux.

When have Vancouver fans seen this movie before? Attack the agent, attack the player, misrepresent what went on...
Burke is in business for himself. The guy pisses off players, fans and the community, and seems to think his team, which ever it is at the time, is the single most important franchise in the history of the sport, and all other teams and personnel are meant to serve him. I am glad he is as far away from the Canucks as can be reasonably expected, and I hope Leaf fans that are reading this are prepared for a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG rebuild with him in charge.

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Are you saying he purposely didn't sign with Toronto because they haven't been successful lately? If anything, he should have more ice time, and hence, a better opportunity to play with the Leafs, and a chance to earn his 1.2 million.

Guaranteed he's not going to be with the big club the entire year, 15 games I'm guessing.

What you're guessing at is pretty stupid btw, I hate players like Blake Wheeler that refuse to sign with the team that drafted you (I treat RFAs in a similar boat). By your logic, no one would ever sign with Florida.. unless apparently they all choose to sign there because of the lovely weather.


Also, I'm sure Burke offered 1.2+mil as well.
The Leafs didnt draft Sweatt. Burke obviously has this massive ego and it once again got in the way.

God knows why you guys continue to defend his stupidity.

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Burkie would have done better given his couple of years experience as a player agent. Probably as good an agent as a litigator as he clearly showed in the Krutov arbitration.

This is a great contract for a second round draft pick negotiated by Scott Norton. Looks like Sweatt is the best paid second rounder from 2007 as far as I can tell.
Oh easily the highest paid 2nd rounder so far, but only because he became a UFA.

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The Leafs didnt draft Sweatt. Burke obviously has this massive ego and it once again got in the way.

God knows why you guys continue to defend his stupidity.
Considering the guy doesn't even know who drafted Sweatt, despite it being so well documented, then I can't take anything they say seriously.

As for Leafs fans, they did have to put up with JFJ for five years and it's only been a little under 2 years of Burke so the honeymoon isn't over just yet. But his 2 years have really been nothing to call home about.

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or B- sign with Toronto, young team with loads of potential ice time.
Didn't Burke withdraw his offer before Sweatt had a chance to decline the Leafs offer (because he wanted to sign another prospect?)?

In any event, the Leafs have openings in their top six (which isn't where Sweatt is projected to be). Canucks have the opposite problem (questions around their bottom six).


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