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08-22-2010, 11:39 PM
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How the hell does this make sense for the Devils. We want to win now, Elias helps us win now. Value isn't close either.
Look what Tampa gave up to get Gagne - they stole the guy. The value doesn't need to be there in a salary dump situation. And it makes sense for the Devil's because - you guessed it - they need to dump salary.

I wouldn't worry though.... not gonna happen.

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08-22-2010, 11:40 PM
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Gagne's career has been turn around by injuries. Elias is a team leader, playoff proven player and still elite.
Gagne has played 310 games since the lockout compared to Elias's 322. As much as I love Elias, Gagne is a very similar situation in Philly. And elite player who had spent their entire career with one franchise, had quite a few injuries and in need of cap space, was sent off to another organization (Elias pending, but I doubt he leaves Jersey.)

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08-22-2010, 11:42 PM
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Who is "they"?
I think he's refering to eklund himself

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08-22-2010, 11:47 PM
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Edmonton has always been interested in Elias, Whats says they get him now rather then 3 seasons ago.

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08-22-2010, 11:51 PM
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Isn't Elias supposed to retire a Devil?

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08-22-2010, 11:54 PM
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Gagne's career has been turn around by injuries. Elias is a team leader, playoff proven player and still elite.
Lol, this is not true. Gagne has played basically just as many games as Elias since the lockout, and he is (was) also a "team leader, playoff proven player and still elite". EDIT: Probably not "elite", but neither is Elias.

Dont kid yourself. Gagne and Elias are VERY much alike. The only thing difference is that you guys have a competent GM who understands the value of a heart and soul guy. If you do trade Elias (doubtful) and you do get more for him, it wont be because Elias has better value.


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08-22-2010, 11:56 PM
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Gagne's career has been turn around by injuries. Elias is a team leader, playoff proven player and still elite.
Still elite? Absolutely not. Still good? Yes.

With that being said, this isn't happening.

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08-22-2010, 11:59 PM
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This is Interesting
Actually, the word I was thinking of was "painful".

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NJD flys Elias in last month to Kovy's press conference...only to move him now?

Elias has a NMC, and is a critical component of NJD.

Please, let's all think. And I mean rational thought. Not Eklund-like-fiction thought.

As for a second media hack reporting it: do we not know that "reporting" in today's TWITter world means copying and reciting something that shows up (in this case, from Eklund) on your handheld and claiming it as "sourced"?

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Why would Edmonton want him? Why would they want to get - horrors! - older?

BECAUSE HE IS GOOD. And because, unlike too many on HF, they undoubtedly do not suffer from Date of Birthritis. And, because a team that is rebuilding does not exempt itself from adding solid vets. That's why.

That said, his contract (three years remaining and pricey) would be a burden for any team to take on. Moreover, the fact that neither NJD nor player have any intent on moving him (he stated as much recently), makes this moot.


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08-23-2010, 12:00 AM
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Look what Tampa gave up to get Gagne - they stole the guy. The value doesn't need to be there in a salary dump situation. And it makes sense for the Devil's because - you guessed it - they need to dump salary.

I wouldn't worry though.... not gonna happen.
Zubrus, Rolston, Salvador and White will go before Elias. Once again, thanks for the concerns.

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08-23-2010, 12:02 AM
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Elias is a great team guy. But I doubt he would take a bullet for his (in this scenario ex-) team to go to a lottery team at his age.

I think there are more likely candidates to move before Elias.

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So a scrub and a 2nd for Elias? LMAO. This is worse than most HFBoards trade proposals.

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So a scrub and a 2nd for Elias? LMAO. This is worse than most HFBoards trade proposals.
Cogliano's no "scrub" he has had two 18 goal seasons flanked by guys like Moreau and Pisani.

But this trade makes no sense for either team

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Lol, this is not true. Gagne has played basically just as many games as Elias since the lockout, and he is (was) also a "team leader, playoff proven player and still elite". EDIT: Probably not "elite", but neither is Elias.

Dont kid yourself. Gagne and Elias are VERY much alike. The only thing difference is that you guys have a competent GM who understands the value of a heart and soul guy. If you do trade Elias (doubtful) and you do get more for him, it wont be because Elias has better value.
The big chunk of games missed were due to a disease. The rest of Elias's injuries were lingering groin and hip injuries which he took care of last summer. Gagne is missing time due to a severe concussion and sports hernia. He is a much greater risk despite being younger then Elias.

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So a scrub and a 2nd for Elias? LMAO. This is worse than most HFBoards trade proposals.
The rights to Antoine Dodson, Cogliano, and a 2nd for Elias so that Elias can get attacked by some idiot in the projects.

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08-23-2010, 12:11 AM
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Isn't Elias supposed to retire a Devil?
I certainly hope so.

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Souray for Elias? Sure. He's almost done at this point. Souray wouldn't get it done, but if this is legit I hope Tambs doesn't do something stupid when we're in the middle of a 'proper' rebuild.

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Actually, the word I was thinking of was "painful".

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NJD flies Elias in last month to Kovy's press conference...only to move him now?

Elias has a NTC, and is a critical component of NJD.

Please, let's all think. And I mean rational thought. Not Eklund-like-fiction thought.

As for a second media hack reporting it: do we not know that "reporting" in today's TWITter world means copying and reciting something that shows up (in this case, from Eklund) on your handheld and claiming it as "sourced"?

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Why would Edmonton want him? Why would they want to get - horrors! - older?

BECAUSE HE IS GOOD. And because, unlike too many on HF, they undoubtedly do not suffer from Date of Birthritis. And, because a team that is rebuilding does not exempt itself from adding solid vets. That's why.

That said, his contract (three years remaining and pricey) would be a burden for any team to take on. Moreover, the fact that neither NJD nor player have any intent on moving him (he stated as much recently), makes this moot.
Time and time again you prove to be the voice of reason on these boards regardless of the topic at hand.

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Souray for Elias? Sure. He's almost done at this point. Souray wouldn't get it done, but if this is legit I hope Tambs doesn't do something stupid when we're in the middle of a 'proper' rebuild.
How does this help New Jersey at all?

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Why don't the Devils just keep Elias and not sign Kovalchuk...????

Or better yet, why not trade Zubarus? or Rolston?

Jeez.

Also Elias has a NMC...

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Was there a Q in front of Ekland's rumor?

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Why don't the Devils just keep Elias and not sign Kovalchuk...????

Or better yet, why not trade Zuburus? or Rolston?

Jeez.
The answer is probably in your second sentence. Bite the bullet, trade a 1st with Rolston for cap relief. Possibly trade Salvador as well and then soldier on.

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The answer is probably in your second sentence. Bite the bullet, trade a 1st with Rolston for cap relief. Possibly trade Salvador as well and then soldier on.
Agreed, Lou needs to do whatever necessary to unload Rolston, whether its a 1st or top prospect like Tedenby.

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This is really one of the dumber things Eklund has ever posted......

#1. Why would Elias waive to go to Edmonton?
#2. Why would Edmonton trade for him unless they're planning on trading Hemsky/Penner?
#2a. Why would Edmonton want to get older?

1. who cares
2. why would they have to trade either of those guys to bring in Elias? Elias has played center in the past. just throw him out there with Hemsky and Hall. or on the LW and let Hall center. more vet depth = less pressure on kids
2a. vet depth to help the kids develop

Elias - Hall - Hemsky
Penner - Gagner - Eberle
MPS - Horcoff - Brule
JFJ/Jones - Fraser - Storts

(yes i get that fact that theres lots of fans who are against Hall at center or will make the case that Elias isnt that good at faceoffs. whatever)

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Why don't the Devils just keep Elias and not sign Kovalchuk...????

Or better yet, why not trade Zubarus? or Rolston?

Jeez.

Also Elias has a NMC...
prepare to give up 1st rounder or high prospects for someone to take on that crap Rolston contract. things garbage. poor Lou.

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The answer is probably in your second sentence. Bite the bullet, trade a 1st with Rolston for cap relief. Possibly trade Salvador as well and then soldier on.
What does Salvador make?

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