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08-09-2010, 09:57 AM
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Habs discussing with Marcus Nilsson

Didn't find a thread on this, but if there is one just delete this. Anyways, the swedish newspaper Aftonbladet- which usually is well informed about SEL-players- claims that the Habs are one of the clubs discussing with Marcus Nilsson.

Nilsson is a pretty gritty forward (atleast by SEL standards), had a pretty good season last year and has decided to try his luck in the NHL.

LINK (in swedish) :http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...icle7589881.ab

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=16605 ---> for stat lovers

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AHL contract? Why not?

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Didn't find a thread on this, but if there is one just delete this. Anyways, the swedish newspaper Aftonbladet- which usually is well informed about SEL-players- claims that the Habs are one of the clubs discussing with Marcus Nilsson.

Nilsson is a pretty gritty forward (atleast by SEL standards), had a pretty good season last year and has decided to try his luck in the NHL.

LINK (in swedish) :http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...icle7589881.ab
Makes some sense since they likely saw something they liked while watching Engqvist and Klubertanz this past season.

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Not sure it would be an AHL contract, the guy is 32 and has over 500 games in the NHL, perhaps a 2-way, but even then... good sized, good skating, defensive specialist... but why, depth ?

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Not sure it would be an AHL contract, the guy is 32 and has over 500 games in the NHL, perhaps a 2-way, but even then... good sized, good skating, defensive specialist... but why, depth ?
Maybe they don't feel White is responsible enough/ready? Maybe they feel it's a cheap way to get grit in their bottom 6 rather than paying an established UFA who will probably be paid a higher salary??


I don't know.

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Not so sure about this, I guess the org doesn't feel comfortable going forward with a couple of rookies.

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AHL contract? Why not?
I don't think he is interested in playing in Hamilton. He want's to give the NHL one last shot, and if nothing materializes I think he will play for Djurgården.

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Why him and not Metro?

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If he's cheap, why not?

Gritty, defensive forward who was a reliable 30 point guy until he got stuck in Sutterland.

I think he'd be a great bottom six guy for us. A little cheap sandpaper up and down the wing.

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Why him and not Metro?
Metro would have needed a raise over his previous salary, so it more expensive. He's also a not a winger. They're hardly comparable in any way.

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Why him and not Metro?
grit/size reason...also maybe because he's a winger not a center. Salary reasons as well?

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Not sure it would be an AHL contract, the guy is 32 and has over 500 games in the NHL, perhaps a 2-way, but even then... good sized, good skating, defensive specialist... but why, depth ?
I can't believe they'd offer him a one way NHL contract. It must be 2 two way if they offer him anything. It's not like he's a hot comodity.

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I can't believe they'd offer him a one way NHL contract. It must be 2 two way if they offer him anything. It's not like he's a hot comodity.
Likely a 2-way. If he doesn't make the team and clears waivers he can opt to go back to Djurgarden.

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I prefer him than Darche as our 12th/13th forward since he has more experience under the belt and he probably uses his size more often than Darche.

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if he can get back to 30 points season we can have ourself a damn good bottom 6 with likes of ellar lapierre boyd nilsson pyatt ..with white or whoever


apart from nilsson our bottom 6 is fairly young and is gd going in the future

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if he can get back to 30 points season we can have ourself a damn good bottom 6 with likes of ellar lapierre boyd nilsson pyatt ..with white or whoever


apart from nilsson our bottom 6 is fairly young and is gd going in the future
forgot moen

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He is not gritty. Not even by SEL standards. Maybe 2005. But not know. He never hits. Never fights.

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BUT in some games he can be very gritty when he is angry.


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Kinda surprised, but at the same time I'm not. Surprised because he really looked done in the NHL during his last stint with the Flames. I'd be more inclined to believe that he's only able to put up numbers in the SEL (I'm trying not to be fooled by the "improvements in his offensive game"), and would struggle to even match his last Calgary season or two statistically.

I'm not surprised, because he could be a hard-working veteran presence who is familiar with a few of our Swedish prospects (as everyone should know by now) and interestingly a few former Hamilton Bulldogs from the Plekanec days (Olvestad, Holmqvist), and would be a cheap winger stop-gap solution.

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Kinda surprised, but at the same time I'm not. Surprised because he really looked done in the NHL during his last stint with the Flames. I'd be more inclined to believe that he's only able to put up numbers in the SEL (I'm trying not to be fooled by the "improvements in his offensive game"), and would struggle to even match his last Calgary season or two statistically.

I'm not surprised, because he could be a hard-working veteran presence who is familiar with a few of our Swedish prospects (as everyone should know by now) and interestingly a few former Hamilton Bulldogs from the Plekanec days (Olvestad, Holmqvist), and would be a cheap winger stop-gap solution.
I think this is the biggest reason. Maybe Veteran wingers on the UFA market are asking for 1m while Nilsson is looking for league minimum?

We'll see what happens.

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I'm not really interested. 30 year old guy who left the nhl twice... No thanks.

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I'm not really interested. 30 year old guy who left the nhl twice... No thanks.
once, the other time was during the lockout.

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The way I see it is this, the following guys are absolutely guarenteed time in our bottom six (or if they somehow get to the top 6, then Pouliot or Kostitsyn drops down to replace them):

-Lapierre
-Moen
-Boyd

Beyond them, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that the following join them:

-Eller
-Pyatt
-Darche

That leaves, essentially, two spots for reserves. I'd imagine Darche is actually one of those reserves.

If we signed Nilsson, then there is one spot in camp for one of the following players:

White
Maxwell
Pacioretty
Desharnais

That's not a bad thing. If we don't sign him, then two of those guys likely crack the team (or we run with 13 forwards to start the year).

Frankly, I am not overly comfy with a line-up that virtually hands a spot to Pacioretty or Maxwell (assuming White grabs the other one). Much better to have one nice spot there for them to battle royale over. Nilsson provides the depth and insurance to allow that.

EDIT: To add the upside of this is that Nilsson seems the type who could easily head right back to Europe if he doesn't make the team. So best case for us is that we sign him and Pacioretty, Eller, and White outplay him at camp and we send him back to Europe (or the AHL) and it doesn't hurt our cap.


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Boyd-Eller-Lapierre
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Boyd-Eller-Lapierre
Moen-Nilson-Palushaj
Interesting. I'll submit that lining him up with a Djur. teammate is equally possible:

Moen-Nilson-Engqvist.

That'd be kind of a slowish line though, perhaps, that would have to rely on hard work and smart play.

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