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08-27-2010, 11:53 PM
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It's a toss up between Jason Doig & Rich Pilon
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08-28-2010, 08:09 PM
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It's a toss up between Jason Doig & Rich Pilon
How can you not have Peter Fiorentino in that conversation?

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You're both wrong... Its Dale Purinton.

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Messier was not a mercenary. From what I understand of the situation, he left the Rangers for Vancouver because he disliked management. Not that he didn't want to be a Ranger.

Mess is a Ranger/New Yorker. Definitely. Even if he is remembered mostly as an Oiler.

He sticks around here for a reason. Because he loves NY and he loves the Rangers.

He's a great man, he really is. I remember walking through his sky walk thing at the Hackensack hospital that he funded, thinking how cool it was that he funded it (can't recall why I was there, though, wasn't anything serious).

I look forward to seeing what he can/will do in the Rangers front office. He's a smart hockey guy and a business man, too. He wears his emotions on his sleeves which is also a unique quality.

Just don't think its right to call Messier, of all people, a mercenary.

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08-29-2010, 03:13 AM
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monkey I worked for the foundation for 10 yrs and had a lot to do with the design of the place. the place is amazing and truly a great place for the poor kids that are there sick. Messier 100% left for the money and thats a fact. Messier is a amazing hockey player and the greatest leader ever in sports but he is known to be a money lover and thats why he left NYC

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08-29-2010, 06:36 PM
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When I think life long, true blue Ranger, I think Rod Gilbert. Small in stature, huge in heart, played during the bully era and went up against the likes of Dave Shultz every time he was on the ice. All class, no quit, even today.
I hate superlative contests but I have to go with Gilbert too. His was the first number ever retired by the New York Rangers. He has been the face of the franchise since he stepped on the ice of two Madison Square Gardens. He has remained constant all these years. My top ten:

Gilbert
Leetch and Park
Giacomin
Ratelle
Richter
Greschner
Tkaczuk
Lundqvist
The Maloney Brothers

Messier isn't really a Ranger to me. He and Gretzsky inhabit a universe all their own.

P.S. The day Park and Ratelle were traded to Boston the hockey world stood still in New York. It was akin to the Kennedy assasination for Ranger fans.

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08-29-2010, 10:13 PM
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It's a toss up between Wade Redden and Chris Drury.















But in Reality I go with Leetch.

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08-29-2010, 10:57 PM
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To me, it is Brian Leetch hands down.

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08-29-2010, 11:10 PM
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No way. Pilon all the way.
What a disgrace

Obviously the Greatest Ranger Of All Time is Rumun Ndur. End of story.













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08-29-2010, 11:40 PM
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Brian Leetch. f u Sather for trading him.

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08-30-2010, 12:35 AM
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It's Leetch. Although I don't blame Sather for trading him at all. I have a feeling that in a few years there will be a some more nominations for this guy:


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08-30-2010, 12:50 AM
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Hey guys, new here. I've been reading the threads for a while, I like the place, so i decided to post!

Anyways, back on topic, I'd say Leetch, because, like what most of you guys stated, his skills were just amazing. This guy could start a rush up the ice as well, maybe even better than some of the forwards in his time. I was only four when the Rangers won it all, but i caught him when he played with Gretzky, and his latter years, and i'll tell ya, what a player.

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08-30-2010, 01:48 AM
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best player that ever was a Ranger?

or


The best Ranger?


1) The best hockey player that was a Ranger I would have to go with Park, Gretzky or Jagr
2) The Best Ranger - Greshner - A career long ranger with stats to match, followed by Richter.

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08-30-2010, 02:24 AM
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best player that ever was a Ranger?

or


The best Ranger?


1) The best hockey player that was a Ranger I would have to go with Park, Gretzky or Jagr
2) The Best Ranger - Greshner - A career long ranger with stats to match, followed by Richter.
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08-30-2010, 08:45 AM
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but seriously, we need to perhaps do this by era. i mean, its hard to really say whos the greatest ranger because many here have never seen an eddie giacomin, jean ratelle or brad park play.

so to preface my comment, ill add this.

in my time (i began watching this team in 1977), mark messier was the greatest ranger for 3 reasons.

1. what he did for this organization on the ice and winning a cup in ny.

2. what he did for this organization by being a team leader/captain and making the players and team around him better.

3. what he did off the ice and continues to do today.

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08-30-2010, 10:23 AM
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It's Leetch. Although I don't blame Sather for trading him at all. I have a feeling that in a few years there will be a some more nominations for this guy:

I nominate the King. He's doing all he's doing without any help, anything close to a Leetch (or any all-star caliber D-man).

It's probably just as big a crime to disregard evolution as it is to disregard the greats of the past...

But if not the King, then the The Captain (also a good reason we got to see Gretzky and the rest of the Oiles in NYR colors).


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08-30-2010, 11:09 AM
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Brian Leetch. But, it might be Henrik if he spends his entire career here.

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08-30-2010, 01:29 PM
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Roman Ndur what a name drop. The only defenseman in the league that could skate with Ndur was Bill Berg or maybe Kevin Hatcher but only when he played for us.

Obviously the Greatest Ranger Of All Time is Rumun Ndur. End of story.












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08-30-2010, 01:46 PM
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Brian Joseph Leetch

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08-30-2010, 01:52 PM
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Marek Malik. I mean, just look at his plus/minus stats!

In all seriousness, I've been watching since the mid 80s and, of the players I myself had a chance to see, it HAS to be Leetch.

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08-30-2010, 02:38 PM
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Adam Graves is my favorite player, but the greatest Ranger is Brian Leetch. No question about it. If Lundqvist remains a Ranger for all or most of his career, he'll have a good case, too.

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Mike Siklenka could have been the greatest had he played more than 2 shifts during one game for us.

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Mess is a Ranger/New Yorker. Definitely. Even if he is remembered mostly as an Oiler.
Who remembers Mess more as an Oiler than a Ranger except for the people in Alberta?

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08-30-2010, 03:51 PM
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I nominate the King. He's doing all he's doing without any help, anything close to a Leetch (or any all-star caliber D-man).

It's probably just as big a crime to disregard evolution as it is to disregard the greats of the past...

But if not the King, then the The Captain (also a good reason we got to see Gretzky and the rest of the Oiles in NYR colors).
Lundqvist has a long way to go. And he has to win a Stanley Cup (winning several game 7s wouldn't hurt either). Individual statistics only go so far.

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Mike Siklenka could have been the greatest had he played more than 2 shifts during one game for us.

Who remembers Mess more as an Oiler than a Ranger except for the people in Alberta?
I'd wager its a ton of non-Ranger fans. The guy won 5 cups in Edmonton, and one without Gretzky.

Messier had a nice 5 year run here (his 2nd tenure was a bit sad and embarassing)...he taught this team how to win, and the fans of the Rangers will never forget him for it. But lets not re-write history, Messier made his bones with the Oilers.

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Lundqvist has a long way to go. And he has to win a Stanley Cup (winning several game 7s wouldn't hurt either). Individual statistics only go so far.
The fact that the team around him has stunk shouldnt be held against Lundqvist when evaluating his Ranger career thus far.

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